FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF

  • @Musicmee
    @Sir-Lotus
    @Sytoki
    @Galactic-Geek
    @Riareth
    @Zerobubble
    Yall on here posting about discord and saying open crew isn't broken because of discord..

    Yall are making me hate this games layout lol.

    Discord is for closed crew so all yall saying use discord. that just negatively effects open crew more.
    as you would be removing me as an open crew member who is a legend who drops athenas for ppl. so again if you don't fix open crew and we all stop using it the game dies.

    (this is also a big issue for noobs ships)
    A full 4 person noob open crew galleon sinks to a full 4 person discord crew galleon this is another example of why open crew needs work. all of you just admitted discord is the only way to get a good crew so now what about discord groups ganging up on the noob open crew ships. if you don't fix open crew the discord groups will rule the servers.

    Athenas put down in open crew about 12
    Athenas put down in open crew finished about 6
    competent crews are rare some go sink at a fort w/ the merch still aboard...

    Athenas put down in closed crew 12
    Athenas put down in closed crew finshed 12

  • @vderickv said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @Zerobubble
    Yall on here posting about discord and saying open crew isn't broken because of discord..

    Nope, never said that... I just said filters wont fix it.

  • LFG through game hub is the easiest thing in the world...if you're on PC even more outlets available. Easy with the all caps header too sheesh you almost blew my eye-drums.

  • @hailhypnotoad1 said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    LFG through game hub is the easiest thing in the world...if you're on PC even more outlets available. Easy with the all caps header too sheesh you almost blew my eye-drums.

    That was quite my intention. to catch your eye. lol

    Sorry but what i'm asking for or suggesting is for a fix to open crew.
    Not a how to on closed crews and how get players via discord or the xbox app. ( i just really dont like this form of matchmaking) this post was to say open crew is broken and if this game is to be any good in the future for open crews it needs reworked.

  • Anyone else just massively lose interest when someone has to convey their idea with the caveat of OR THE GAME WILL DIE?! Just bugs me when an argument cannot stand on its own merit and has to rely on the doom and gloom of the playerbase leaving, which has no basis in reality.

    Anyway, on to the topic. Discord and premade groups already run the servers, and will always work together better than any "fixes" to matchmaking.

    There are two types of gamers that play these sorts of multiplayer games: those who wish to simply hop in without putting any thought or effort into it, and those who wish to play with a coordinated and cohesive group. The first group will always, always use the easiest method to hop into a game, which is public matchmaking. The second group will do what they can do achieve their goal of a cohesive group, which sometimes means random matchmaking, but most of the time using their friends list or an outside matchmaking source. This isn't that uncommon, and all the adjustments in the world to public matchmaking will 9 times out of 10 land you with someone who plays casually and doesn't care nearly as much.

    Even if changes were made and they were marginally successful, it would just become the new way to queue. If suddenly the best way to get a solid group is to queue up using X filters, everyone who doesn't use discord will do it and it all goes back to square one, while the rest are using tried and true methods like Discord and LFG.

    If the tools exist, and you resist their use, that is on you and no one else. "But I don't want to have to go to some outside source to find people!" Then you must not want it that badly. Stop making excuses for why you SHOULDN'T have to do this or that, because that is not grounded in reality.

  • @vderickv Meh even with filters you're going to get people you don't want to sail with. LFG allows you the opportunity to vet your crew before getting into a game, sounds better imo.

  • @drunkpunk138
    Sorry but so many games have preferences and they work very well so you saying "it wont work" is a joke. sorry it will work.

    I have seen a pattern here with who has posted. EVERYONE who here has suggested the discord does not see that open crew needs rework. Now that just proves how blind you are behind your closed crew lobbies.

    yall should go open crew for an hr today and tell me how it goes.

  • @hailhypnotoad1 said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @vderickv Meh even with filters you're going to get people you don't want to sail with. LFG allows you the opportunity to vet your crew before getting into a game, sounds better imo.

    Even lfg has bad kids. that will go afk for 10 mins and spin.

    ALSO
    This is not a how to get ppl into my crew post. its a how to fix open crews trash lobbies post.

  • @vderickv funniest thing I've read on here for a while

  • @reedski said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @vderickv funniest thing I've read on here for a while

    Real helpful bud. care to post something productive?

  • @vderickv not particularly...

  • @vderickv You love that CAPS Lock. As mentioned you "vet" them with conversation/questions. A sensible person can tell whether their personalities mesh and whether they have the skill sets needed for said mission. What filter exists today in any game that qualifies both of those?

  • @hailhypnotoad1
    Right you need to just stop with this discord lfg c**p. I shouldn't have to say this. For any game for you to find a good crew. the requirement be download discord talk to a bunch of idiots "vet" and then hrs later make a lobby to play. WHAT A JOKE

  • @vderickv ... This forum and game might not be for you. We are a friendly bunch but you seem dead set on being outspoken and rude. All the best, i will leave..."your post" on our forum :)

  • @hailhypnotoad1
    Prob the must ignorant post. Trust me bud i'm friendly but when everyone here is so dead set on open crew being perfectly fine and the only option to a better play experience be to download discord and spend hrs before playing vetting idiots over a computer. NA The game has potential to fix this issue. and all you discord fan boys just obv wont let that happen.

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  • Alright, I'll see if I can be helpful beyond what every seasoned player is already telling you...

    In the beginning there was no closed crew, every game was open crew, those of us who were there at this point slowly through the magic of trial and error made friends, competent like minded sorts who shared a timezone. We then got closed crews which was a blessing. Finally we could start an undermanned ship knowing we would only ever get friends joining not randos. The reason open crew sucks so hard now is that everyone who is any good has already got several decent crews to play with and can't be bothered to deal with useless non-communicative randoms so we never use it. My advice beyond just using discord/lfg etc is to just do what we all did, struggle for a while on open until you befriend enough people to play closed. If you can't do that and can't be bothered to use any of the many alternative methods to find crews then that's your own fault. As for your initial post, you were very quick to complain about your noob crew, but how hard did you actually try to tutor them before you selfishly blew them all up?... I'm not a particularly nice person, most people on this forum know that, but even I think that was just pathetic.

  • @reedski said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    Alright, I'll see if I can be helpful beyond what every seasoned player is already telling you...

    In the beginning there was no closed crew, every game was open crew, those of us who were there at this point slowly through the magic of trial and error made friends, competent like minded sorts who shared a timezone. We then got closed crews which was a blessing. Finally we could start an undermanned ship knowing we would only ever get friends joining not randos. The reason open crew sucks so hard now is that everyone who is any good has already got several decent crews to play with and can't be bothered to deal with useless non-communicative randoms so we never use it. My advice beyond just using discord/lfg etc is to just do what we all did, struggle for a while on open until you befriend enough people to play closed. If you can't do that and can't be bothered to use any of the many alternative methods to find crews then that's your own fault. As for your initial post, you were very quick to complain about your noob crew, but how hard did you actually try to tutor them before you selfishly blew them all up?... I'm not a particularly nice person, most people on this forum know that, but even I think that was just pathetic.

    ROFL i tried plenty bro i was at a fort when they joined and was telling them as they join i'm getting supplies for the event and they lifted anchor i had to take a mermaid back to re-anchor them as soon as i did that they just started lifting anchor so what do i do. crows nest keg boom bye.

    Just because the game was released way to early rare obv cutting corners to push the games launch for Microsoft.
    I played during the open crew and it was better back then to find a competent crew.

    As to your suggestions for discord lfg those preferences should be build into the game. honestly most all games have this already and rare cut that corner to begin with.

    Your other suggestion to just play open crew and add ppl as i go. trust me dude i have been doing this since day one also not everyone i'v added is on when i am.

    Open crew ultimately needs search preferences.
    If it works good for me
    If it doesn't work well then you were right but at least they tried!
    Leave it the way it is. i will just refuse to play open crew and yet again another player not using open crew and ruining it for the others.

  • Open crew is fine.

    It's OPEN

    I think your real problem is the recent influx of new players. I did 95% of my rep solo. Discord is great, when you find like minded people and add them as friends you join their sessions they join you. Are you expecting to join an open session that's full of jack rackams and blackbeards? Never going to happen, in any game.

    You sort preferences in lobby, it becomes so segmented, then you can't find a crew.

    I think the game is getting bigger, not dying off. You're mentality is, "let some coder revamp the whole matchmaking experience so I dont have to use discord of LFG" i mean...are you that guy that goes to taco bell demanding a cheeseburger or what? If you haven't noticed, you have little to no support. Your negative critique is far from constructive.

    The only way you're hurting others in open crew is your attitude, so you not being there makes it a better place

  • @violentandroid said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    Open crew is fine.

    It's OPEN

    I think your real problem is the recent influx of new players. I did 95% of my rep solo. Discord is great, when you find like minded people and add them as friends you join their sessions they join you. Are you expecting to join an open session that's full of jack rackams and blackbeards? Never going to happen, in any game.

    You sort preferences in lobby, it becomes so segmented, then you can't find a crew.

    I think the game is getting bigger, not dying off. You're mentality is, "let some coder revamp the whole matchmaking experience so I dont have to use discord of LFG" i mean...are you that guy that goes to taco bell demanding a cheeseburger or what? If you haven't noticed, you have little to no support. Your negative critique is far from constructive.

    because everyone can agree that open crew is broken trash unusable yet 100% of you dont want to change or fix a thing cant even suggest anything all you have is "its fine the way it is"

  • @vderickv said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @violentandroid said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    Open crew is fine.

    It's OPEN

    I think your real problem is the recent influx of new players. I did 95% of my rep solo. Discord is great, when you find like minded people and add them as friends you join their sessions they join you. Are you expecting to join an open session that's full of jack rackams and blackbeards? Never going to happen, in any game.

    You sort preferences in lobby, it becomes so segmented, then you can't find a crew.

    I think the game is getting bigger, not dying off. You're mentality is, "let some coder revamp the whole matchmaking experience so I dont have to use discord of LFG" i mean...are you that guy that goes to taco bell demanding a cheeseburger or what? If you haven't noticed, you have little to no support. Your negative critique is far from constructive.

    because everyone can agree that open crew is broken trash unusable yet 100% of you dont want to change or fix a thing cant even suggest anything all you have is "its fine the way it is"

    Which should tell you something...think inwards young pirate

  • @violentandroid said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @vderickv said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @violentandroid said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    Open crew is fine.

    It's OPEN

    I think your real problem is the recent influx of new players. I did 95% of my rep solo. Discord is great, when you find like minded people and add them as friends you join their sessions they join you. Are you expecting to join an open session that's full of jack rackams and blackbeards? Never going to happen, in any game.

    You sort preferences in lobby, it becomes so segmented, then you can't find a crew.

    I think the game is getting bigger, not dying off. You're mentality is, "let some coder revamp the whole matchmaking experience so I dont have to use discord of LFG" i mean...are you that guy that goes to taco bell demanding a cheeseburger or what? If you haven't noticed, you have little to no support. Your negative critique is far from constructive.

    because everyone can agree that open crew is broken trash unusable yet 100% of you dont want to change or fix a thing cant even suggest anything all you have is "its fine the way it is"

    Which should tell you something...think inwards young pirate

    Oh i see all you discord users want easy open crew ship targets gotcha

    EDIT: no response seems i may have thrown that curveball you cant deny.

  • I agree that while LFG and Discord are a solution to the problem it's not end all be all. It simply not an option for everybody. I belive that all games should have every system required to work built-in and not require the use of third parties. Same reason we argue that Lore should be in-game and not just IRL such as books. While you can argue that 3rd party tools are universally better then any in-game system is up for debate as this is more an Opinion then objective fact. However the idea that filter's would work as a solution is not. There are many technical issuses that come with filters but we should agree that we must continue to find new ways of addressing this vaild issue.

  • @enf0rcer
    Care to tell me why some filters would not work?

    What would you like to do.
    oos
    gh
    merch
    (only if legend) athenas (again a preference not a guarentee)

    Do you want teammates with a mic
    Yes
    no

    Server preference
    PVP
    PVE
    Both
    (im not for separating servers based on pvp/pve but only based off search preferences of players) (could still kill anyone sink anyone ext)

    Hours estimated to be on the server preference
    0-1
    2-3
    4-5

    Bilge rat event preference.

    again all of these i see no issue bringing into the game. prove me wrong.

    EDIT: You know the preference that would get used the most is bilge rat adventure and i'm sure it would make it 10x easier with that preference having most ppl who join looking to do the event. Right now good luck even finding a competent crew let alone find someone willing to do the event.

  • I don’t use discord
    I don’t use LFG
    I am not a streamer
    I do not play endless hours
    I have no RL friends who play

    The majority of my game sessions are with previous contacts, but when I don’t have anyone on them it’s time to realize the need to make more contacts.

    This is done via the open crew. Yes, more often or not it’s terrible, but occasionally it’s not. I met 2 great players this week who I added and will play with repeatedly. The reality is that an open crew is a time investment. It’s an opportunity to test a group in the community and see if you want to bring them into your crew. It’s an opportunity for new players to meet experienced ones, talk to them, show their enthusiasm and try to get invited to join your crew.

    Filters will just eliminate these chances. Other then interest based (OoS, GH, Merchant). Adding filters which discriminate based on player levels will prevent new players from meeting the ones they need to, and that would kill the game.

  • @omnipotence13

    As much as i agree that a noob could use some help from higher levels
    SOME higher levels just want to go into an open crew and find people of same level more often then noobs. Right now its just continuously hop until a server is found. why not just make this endless server hop easier with preferences that "hardly impact the game" or "kills the game" either way lol.

  • I think adding that would ruin the game. It’s supposed to be fair and open to all. If you want to pick your crew join one of the many groups made for that! But the point of the open crew is to meet new and random people. I am part of a few groups on Facebook and they are always looking for people to sail with

  • @luckydaddy0731
    How would it ruin the game if it isn't a garentee that you get into a higher level crew... Its not like it completely turns off putting you into a galleon with 3 noob people its a preference not a requirement rofl.

    EDIT: if anything discord crews are the ones you should be saying this about.

    How are you not meeting new and random people when you add preference? lol this i don't understand..

  • @vderickv by separating players on any base would cause huge disadvantages. If I could pick I wanted to play with people around my lvl the people starting out or way ahead of others would be at the disadvantage or the advantage depending on the case. It’s supposed to be a open and equal game. You put all the noobs together the game would die faster than you could reply. Never said you wouldn’t meet new people but it would make unfair servers is my point

  • @luckydaddy0731
    Again you are not separating anything we aren't creating a Que for players to sit in with preferences to wait for player like discord rofl. we are talking about you hit open crew add a few preferences hit set sail and if there is a spot open on any ship with preferences close to yours you get in with no extra load time so if its not fast boom your preferences get ignored basically.

    How would this ruin the game?

  • @vderickv I was thinking more of searching for people with a specific lvl base and only allowing them into a server together, and not letting anyone with less into that server. That’s how it would ruin the game. But as long as the server stays open the. I guess that really wouldn’t be any different than playing with your friends in a crew

  • @luckydaddy0731 said in FIX OPEN CREW OR WATCH THE GAME DIE OFF:

    @vderickv I was thinking more of searching for people with a specific lvl base and only allowing them into a server together, and not letting anyone with less into that server. That’s how it would ruin the game. But as long as the server stays open the. I guess that really wouldn’t be any different than playing with your friends in a crew

    Im not asking for anythign close to this.
    How many open crew athenas do you know about rofl this would be a rare find even with the preference on.

  • @vderickv what do you mean open crew Athena’s? Like them doing one and have the crew open? I’ve joined quite a bit Actually. But we’re getting off topic now. What is it you want then? Just a crew preference? Like age and/or lvl? Common goals? That would be fine. Same as doing a closed crew basically. I’ve just never had a problem meeting people in the game who are decent. Yeah a bit of kids but nothing a crew hop couldn’t fix or even a mute.

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