No loot if in the brig

@dutchyankee said in No loot if in the brig:

Getting jerk randoms is a pain. The brig feature isn't much of an answer. But it's better than nothing. (although not much)

Rare didn't implement the feature you are talking about to stop "grieving". It would be too easy for crews to throw somebody in the brig right before cashing in. They were afraid (rightly so) that people would do this just to be jerks.

Once we had a verbally abusive random. We voted him into the brig and then hid our treasure in an underwater cave instead of cashing it in. Poor guy sat in there for 3 hours before giving up.

Totally agree how would you feel if you spent 3 hours and right as you pulled up to cash in you found yourself in the brig so the other 3 can lol at you.

@dutchyankee sagte in No loot if in the brig:

Getting jerk randoms is a pain. The brig feature isn't much of an answer. But it's better than nothing. (although not much)

Rare didn't implement the feature you are talking about to stop "grieving". It would be too easy for crews to throw somebody in the brig right before cashing in. They were afraid (rightly so) that people would do this just to be jerks.

Once we had a verbally abusive random. We voted him into the brig and then hid our treasure in an underwater cave instead of cashing it in. Poor guy sat in there for 3 hours before giving up.

Sounds like some People really enjoy being obnoxious. Good call pointing out that People could use the Brig then to "troll" someone with not getting Loot he/she worked for, together with someone else.

I personally would like it if a Crew could "kick" someone out of the Crew, so there is Place for a new Member which is hopefully not an A****e like the kicked out former Member,

yet People could use this the same, in Order to be A*****s. It happened once in World of Warcraft with me that People "kicked" me from an Instance, so someone else could get the last Boss for the Instance and get the Reward.

It was in "Cataclysm". We were all Alliance Players.
You want to know what i did to the "Alliance" for this, back then?

The ( i am not joking ) NEXT. HUNDRED. BATTLEGROUNDS. in logged in "only" in the Battleground of Wrath of the Lichking in which "Vehicles" are important to fight the Enemy Base. (Of the Horde)

I took One of the "War-Gleve Vehicles" from the Docks ... ...
... ... ... and "drove it into the Water". I drove it over the whole Island - just not in Direction of the Enemy Base to shoot at the Gate in Order to destroy it ;-)

I "sabotaged" the Alliance Faction in THAT BATTLEGROUND for over TWO Months and caused at least over a 100 lost Battlegrounds. 100 Games which take usually above 15 Minutes.

Yes ... ... THIS huge was my Hatred for this insolent Betrayal in a PvE Instance back then. I called it the " Summer of Suffering " i brought over the Alliance back in the Day.
(And i am still an Alliance only Player this Day, i have You know^^ )

I "can" understand, why there is no Kick/Shuttle-Service.
People could "abuse" it, to troll and insult and enrage other Players who played and fought ALONGSIDE with them - and keep the earned Reward from them.

This ... ... ... would create vengeful Players. Like me, back then.
They WOULD take Revenge - and enjoy "punishing others" in Order for Karma to spread. "LIKE ME, back then",

sometimes to get back at a Community that DARED to enrage your sublime Self,
You have NO CHOICE but to become an EVEN greater A****e than the others.

ONLY THEN - You will be able to "put the Problem" into everyone's Focus. By making YOUR Problem - everyone's else Problem also.

• S~iiigh * ,
  sometimes it feels JUST TO GOOD - to be an A****e ... ...

@dutchyankee sagte in No loot if in the brig:

@brooddust556302 Hopefully they will go through with their idea for putting bounties on peoples heads.

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Ohh i S~OOO HOPE they will do it, good Sir DutchYankee. ;-)

A - holes need to get punished. The Player with a Bounty on his Head should "be marked" from a generous Distance with a red, huge "WANTED" over his Head, bigger than his Characters Name or so ;-)

Plus,
( not to be a Jerk to much, b~uuuuut ... ... ^.^ )

Would it be okay for such a Player to have to stay at the Ferry of the Dead for Two or Three Times as long? * evil giggling *

A~nnd,

• it should ONLY be possible to put a Bounty on someone's Head "when" the Player has killed the Bounty-giving Player before. At least one time or several times ;-)

@szawel123 sagte in No loot if in the brig:

But srsly... you found that much players that p****d you to sacrifice some normal players to trolls and griefers?

Not in Sea of Thieves, yet ;-) also thanks to the Fact that one can not use the Games mechanics to troll someone FROM THE OWN CREW that in Fact might as well have nicely worked and fought together with oneself for the desired Loot ;-)

I am a bit hesitant of stripping someone from the Loot with throwing him into the Brig. For Example,
the Brigantine* will have 3 People as a Crew.

2 People could troll the third Person. It is just not right. The current Brig Version is completely okay as it is.
For Example, some "Crewmember" always uses Gunpowder Barrels to make "friendly-fire" possible and kill his Crewmembers and/or damage the own Ship.

Such a W.anker deserves to get thrown into the Brig. ;-)
He or she can be happy if the other Crewmembers decide to sell their Loot while this Guy is online instead of waiting for him to log out. ;-)

This Way, nobody can troll someone with throwing him into the Brig so easily. But it still punishes the People messing with their own Crew.

@bountyhunter-2g It's hard to find a fair balance for all.
Some are only too quick to brig a player as they are loading into a random crew whilst there are griefers who will steal your ship, toss loot overboard or even deliberately powder keg your ship.

I honestly don't and can't see what either type of player gets out of doing this.

To me the brig is useless, it should be more of a stronghold for loot, much like a shipwreck, rather than a waste of space.
The game needs a "kick" option rather than a useless brig that gives players a free ride, even if they are a griefer. However other steps need to be in play before simply kicking someone, too.

Perhaps the game should decide?
If someone is unloading loot outside of an outpost (cannon range) then display a message to the rest of the crew asking for a vote to either kick or ignore this action. The same applies to powder kegging your ship or fellow crew mates, dropping the anchor too often, etc.
Trusted crew members could be exempt from the kick option messages via the "My Crew" menu, so it's not annoying.
Disallow the option to kick any new crew member. If you don't want a random you have the closed crew option.

This is why we always sail on a closed crew, only time we will go open is if none of our friends are free

@bluefox6 sagte in No loot if in the brig:

This is why we always sail on a closed crew, only time we will go open is if none of our friends are free

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I can promise You that I am decent Player ;-) i don't troll fellow Crew Members EVEN when they [Mod Edit - Do not circumvent the profanity filter] me off so much that i would love to blow them up with a Gunpowder Barrel x)

Meaning - sometimes You should trust even Random Players. ;-)
Not everyone out there is a complete [Mod Edit - Do not circumvent the profanity filter]^^

@jjblackhat It also loses that merit when it's over-used by immature players.
And what's with the sloop's brig. Is that usable or wasted space? It can only be one or the other.

@bluefox6 said in No loot if in the brig:

This is why we always sail on a closed crew, only time we will go open is if none of our friends are free

We always sail with a closed crew since it was implemented and are often left with a 3 person crew, sometimes it's just two of us on the galleon.
My regular crew mate's wife joins us from her work but she is afk a lot plus time traveling to and from her job.
Not all randoms are evil sods but we've had our fair share of that type.
Thankfully the brigantine is on it's way.

@jjblackhat I have found good crews that I regularly play with. But the first month or so as a random was just ... well, you know. :/

As you've suggested just find a good crew. Then you won't need the brig and will eventually see it as wasted space too.

@dcr-lt-kanada Deckhands are volunteer forum moderators. The are not paid by Rare or anyone to do this job.
They also don't have access to any one's account in the game.

@dcr-lt-kanada Okay, I understand your meaning now. But is that any different to the player submitting a support ticket themselves?
Rare employees will still be working the same hours and going through all reports at the same pace.

Sorry to discredit your idea but will it make any difference?

@brooddust556302 said in No loot if in the brig:

@bluefox6 sagte in No loot if in the brig:

This is why we always sail on a closed crew, only time we will go open is if none of our friends are free

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I can promise You that I am decent Player ;-) i don't troll fellow Crew Members EVEN when they [Mod Edit - Do not circumvent the profanity filter] me off so much that i would love to blow them up with a Gunpowder Barrel x)

Meaning - sometimes You should trust even Random Players. ;-)
Not everyone out there is a complete [Mod Edit - Do not circumvent the profanity filter]^^

Me and my crew do a fair bit of trolling to each other, it's all fun and games, it's just when someone joins and does nothing or ruins the fun, it's always a gamble when you go open crew!