My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop

  • I really feel like this game has the odds stacked against those of us that just do solo sloop adventures in this game. It has actually gotten really annoying recently. Every time I go out there always seems to be one or two other ships that always pick on me. I'm just minding my own business, either fighting skeletons or trying to catch animals or whatever and I'm not being aggressive towards other players but yet they still attack me. This is a huge turn off for me with this game. If I wanted to fight other crews I would probably have one or two other players on my crew, but since I play solo it is so annoying to be picked on so often.

    I mean, I play this game on my Xbox so if I do want to use in mic I just plug in the Kinect system. It's not the best setup but it actually works. It would be nice to find a few other people to play with. I also really wish this game had split screen multiplayer, my girlfriend thinks it might be fun to play with me. But beyond finding other people to play with when I do play by myself there should be a way to just let me do the grind for the different companies and not have to worry about getting attacked by other crews.

    I wish there were private servers for those of us that just want to play solo and just work on getting the different company levels higher.

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  • So basically you want PvE servers?

  • @mighty-ace123 yeah, I think that would be a good idea.

  • 50/49.7/50 and I play solo 80% of the time. On xbox, as well. I'm not hearing it.

  • @marsmayflower well I'm sorry but some of us are not as experienced As You Are. So for those of us who are newer players, and Casual players type server that is only PVE would be very much appreciated.

  • yes please rare do this i spent a total of 6 hours on the game yesterday and spent more money on buying voyages because every time i get all my loot on the boat i think i will just grab a couple of bananas out of that barrel and then BOOM! someone kills all my pigs and blow up my gun powered barrels.

    so yes please a passive server or even a area around a outpost that we cant get attacked??

  • This is like beating a dead horse, it’s not going to go anywhere, these threads pop up all the time and rare has even said that this isn’t going to happen it’s an ONLINE sandbox pirate game

  • @thecageddeath if they see that enough of the player base wants something like this, then they should consider it.

  • sigh

    The game literally warns you that picking a sloop is Hard Mode. Deal with it or join a galleon.

    Stop trying to fix your lack of ability by asking for a complete overhaul of the game!

  • Ignore the trolls down talking you. The only one beating a dead horse are the ones that feel the need to use the same sad excuse of "it's a pirate game" or "no pvp would be boring" over and over. People want this to happen and have a right to express it. If you disagree then move on, because the threads aren't stopping.

  • I would love to enjoy the Voyages and PVE gameplay this game has to offer but the only thing I do when I log in now is chase down the first ship is see, sink it and quit without even bothering to check for loot. The grind is just a complete turn off so long as im forced to interact with randoms.

  • @crimsoninsomnia said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    @marsmayflower well I'm sorry but some of us are not as experienced As You Are. So for those of us who are newer players, and Casual players type server that is only PVE would be very much appreciated.

    Hey, I'll be fair expressing a desire - even one not well balanced against the nature and spirit of the game is fair. We all have privilege of opinions and wants, right? Sadly this quoted text works against you somewhat. The nature of experience is that it is... well... experience. It takes time and effort to struggle through being a new and inexperienced player in any game. Once you've gone through the slog, your better for it. Asking to never have challenge nor reason enough to improve is actually crippling to the spirit personal growth and the privilege to better understand a thing for what it may or may not be.

    By example, I spent 7 years in the Army. I was a radio Dj before that. I promise it took some effort and many trials to become a brawny, awesome, well respected medic. But through the effort I gained experience. It's that experience of failure, and successes, and everything between which helped me to become who I was and now remain.

    SoT is a game, but it's no different. Experience tends to build the skill and understanding it takes to tackle the various challenges in the game. Gained through perpetual failures, or glorious successes, and everything in between.

    When considering that the game is marketed as a 'shared world experience' where you don't know what will happen next and it's reliant on the behaviors of others as well as oneself. It might become more obvious why singularly focused servers either for or without PvP or PvE are too myopic for the nature and spirit of the title.

    It's not the idea that's bad. It's the inherent likelihood that such a thing will never show itself on the Sea of Thieves because it's directly contrary to the nature of the game as developed that brings criticism. Surely, if the player base whines enough things may change. Rare showcases a willingness to adapt the game in favor of the numbers so to speak. But it's not inherent to the very nature of the game nor it's spirit and so the audience which seems to want this is fractured. Some fall on all sides of the argument. Some want more PvP and some want less others enjoy the game for what it is now.

    Does that mean it shouldn't change to adapt? No, not hardly. But it's akin to buying a car and expecting a motorcycle. They told you it's a car, you saw it was a car, you know it was a car. And now that you aren't happy it's a car... you want to ride the motorcycle. It's not the cars fault and the car shouldn't be what changes. Instead, go buy the motorcycle you want or adapt to the car which is cool cause cars can carry more friends and even groceries with great ease!

    It certainly doesn't help that this is a PvE focused game with freedom to PvP. Reinforced by the lack of content which drives a desire to fight with other pirates simply for something to do. That's certainly Rare's issue, and one that needs be solved.

    But in this posters opinion they shouldn't make such a change. It's destroy the very freedom and spirit that draws us in since launch. What they need are more things to do that will distract from boredom and continue to reinforce reasons for players to play together. I'd start with better audio tools and communication measures. Which, they seem to understand considering the arrival of the speaking trumpet.

    But your entitled to your desires. I simply mean to comment that I disagree in the value of the request and hope that perhaps I can urge you to reconsider your initial thoughts. I'm sure to fail but it is a discussion forum after all!

  • We went over why PvE servers are a huge "no" at launch. Please refer to those older threads, but do not necro.

    As for Solo Slooping, it very clearly says on the Solo option that it's meant for experienced players only. It's not the game's fault you weren't adequately prepared to go it solo.

  • @crimsoninsomnia I solo merchant quests all the time. Start off exploring islands and knowing where cannons are on the island. Always stop your ship in their proximity and you can defend yourself from the land. Also, you can outmaneuver a galleon. You got this.

    On playing with your girlfriend, if you bought the game digitally, fire it up on your laptop. Microsoft let's you share the game with family shared profiles which is how I sail with my kids, and why Microsoft store is better than Steam(can't play at the same time).

    I love solo slooping as I have complete control, but I think the real challenge is sailing on an open galleon. You never know what you are going to get and it adds to the story. Give it a try. Sometimes I find others I work well with. Others I have to teach, and the last group are the ones who don't want to do anything.

    Winning a skull fort is more satisfying when you have to fight off other hungry pirates. Don't worry when alliances come out on July 31st it may calm down the pvp for a bit.

  • PvE servers will go like this: You dig up your treasure on an island when a galleon arrives, sinks your ship, steals your treasure and you can't do anything because on a PvE server you can't kill anyone.

    The next request will obviously be: make ships unsinkable and treasures unstealable. At which point it's clearly not a pirate game anymore and you might as well develop a new spin-off Sea of Thieves game.

    A better way instead of PvE servers would be to have team player and solo player servers. In a team player server, the crew size needs to be 2 or more. In a solo server, the max crew size is limited to 1.
    If your crew size changes above or below the limit you get transferred to another server.

  • @blackelite-id16 player encounters are what keeps the "grind" interesting to me.
    You really. Really. Really want to sail around without any danger to do fetch quest without any danger just to go sell the loot without danger?

    Do you people even realise how utterly boring this game would be?

  • I Joined the Iron fleet. They have a recruitment page here on the forum. Joining them was the best thing I ever did. Over 100 ACTIVE player's I have not needed to sail solo again they are a great bunch of people who are a mixture of Xbox one and PC PLAYER'S. im from the U.K.. but no matter what time I played 10am or 3am they always have player's online I highly recommend them. Mention my name on their recruitment page and once you join you will be glad that you did.

  • @crimsoninsomnia said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    @marsmayflower well I'm sorry but some of us are not as experienced As You Are. So for those of us who are newer players, and Casual players type server that is only PVE would be very much appreciated.

    Everyone starts the game with no experience :p

    The game is the same for everyone, regardless of crew size. It means that choosing to play solo will put you at a disadvantage. To counter that, you need to play better and smarter than the bigger crews that attack you.
    You can easily avoid fights as well, just need to be aware of your surroundings.

    Play and try to improve every time you get attacked. It gets better with time and you'll see it's not that bad later on.
    People won't leave you alone as a solo sloop, they will actually attack you more since you are an easy target. That's why solo is hard mode and is not for everyone.

    I'm currently at 50/50/47 and a solo player as well. I didn't play during the beta or alpha and I learned like everyone by playing the game. It's harder sure, but not that hard.
    I can still play solo and relax while doing so.

  • @crimsoninsomnia
    If I might turn your attention to these little pieces of text on the site:
    On Solo slooping:

    On What the game is:

    The game is built on this PvPvE dynamic. Sure it's annoying when you lose that loot you dug up. But honestly without the ability to lose what is there to this game?

    As you said yourself it's fun to play with others. So play with others. Find a nice discord (the official one is a great one to start at) and find some likeminded players to start a galleon. Sure you'll still be chased harassed etc, but a lot less and you have more capability to fight back.

    Happy sailing to you my good Sir and stay out of trouble ;-)

  • @mighty-ace123 If PVP is all you care about then sure, it would be pretty boring. With the coming content updates like NPC ships this game will not be boring though. It was supposed to be a fun PVE game from the start but has turned out to be just a pointless battle arena with unlimited spawns and no end game. Just because you wouldn't enjoy something doesn't suddenly make it any less enjoyable for someone else.

  • @sanni all they have to do is offer private servers, I don't know what kind of convoluted nonsense you're cooking up. Private servers with no changes so I can play exclusively with people I know and avoid all interaction with randoms.

  • A private server just for you? And who will steal your treasure then? 🤣

  • @blackelite-id16 said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    @mighty-ace123 If PVP is all you care about then sure, it would be pretty boring. With the coming content updates like NPC ships this game will not be boring though. It was supposed to be a fun PVE game from the start but has turned out to be just a pointless battle arena with unlimited spawns and no end game. Just because you wouldn't enjoy something doesn't suddenly make it any less enjoyable for someone else.

    You misunderstood me. Imo the game needs the tension that other players create. Simple AI foes are not the same level of threat at all, you must agree on that?
    And who at RARE specified this as a PVE game?

  • I've played many many hours solo and it's not a bad experience. You just gotta be more alert to who's around you and you'd probably be sunk less. If I ever get into a pvp situation I usually just send my ship in one direction, jump off with some gunpowder and sink the enemy ship. At the very least it slows the enemy ship down enough for me to sell whatever I have.

  • @crimsoninsomnia Most players who choose to go it alone tend to overlook the benefits of playing on a galleon. You "DON'T" have to use a mic when playing, and still have the non-verbal coms to communicate. The experience when playing without a mic on a galleon is not too dissimilar from playing alone, except there's more hands to make lighter work, and quests can be completed much quicker.

    The trade off, is that you can't always pick the thing that you want to do, and cashing in time is decided by the majority. But if all you want to do is power leveling, then the galleon is a better choice.

    There's also the added bonus that you're attacked a lot less.

  • A private server just for me and those I chose to have in it yes that's what I want.

  • @blackelite-id16 Wasting your time here man, this forum is a disaster of kids who take the PVP in this game way way too seriously. They don't take kindly to ANY changes suggested to it. Even those that revolve around broken mechanics like "oneshotting" with quick weapons changes (lolol tryhards) or scuttling after you've been sunk to avoid the spawn distance of being sunk.

  • @foxdodge said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    @crimsoninsomnia Most players who choose to go it alone tend to overlook the benefits of playing on a galleon. You "DON'T" have to use a mic when playing, and still have the non-verbal coms to communicate. The experience when playing without a mic on a galleon is not too dissimilar from playing alone, except there's more hands to make lighter work, and quests can be completed much quicker.

    The trade off, is that you can't always pick the thing that you want to do, and cashing in time is decided by the majority. But if all you want to do is power leveling, then the galleon is a better choice.

    There's also the added bonus that you're attacked a lot less.

    I think it really depends on the galleon group though. I had amazing crews where everyone was communicating (voice or typing), contributing and were fun to play with.

    Other times I had crews where I could have been done with that voyage a lot quicker if I played alone. Playing with pirates that just say "Aye" feels a bit weird as well.
    I remember having a group where I had to remind everyone on board not to go afk every few minutes while we were doing a fort...

    About the mic, If you go to the xbox app for example, most of the groups require you to have one, which is a shame but I understand why. It's a lot easier finding good groups there compared to the open crew option.

    Anyway, I agree about the rest. If you can find a good galleon crew, it will make things a lot smoother and enjoyable. Galleons are also attacked way less than sloops.

  • @crimsoninsomnia on most things yes, but what you and so many others are asking for is a completely different game, if you just want pve play black flag or another game of the like, like I said this is an ONLINE multiplayer pirate game, that’s the whole premise of the game that’s why it was made

  • @crimsoninsomnia

    You must be really unlucky. I have played Solo since launch and have been haunted less than 10 times. The times I got caught have been when I have thrown caution to the wind a little. ( I secretly love being chased )

  • @personalc0ffee said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    @crimsoninsomnia

    I really feel like this game has the odds stacked against those of us that just do solo sloop adventures in this game.

    This is not a Solo game so Solo play is very hard and only for experienced pirates only.

    That is the intended experience.

    This!
    This isn't a solo game. It's a game to play with crew, with friends.

    Yes we can sail solo, but in our own risk. We need to have the experience to take that risk.
    Because the game won't ease your way just because you're alone.
    You're a valid target as everyone else is.

    If you want just to relax, take my advice. Go with a galleon. You'll gain more self experience by sailing one of those alone by your own.
    And propably will be less players trying to go on your way.

  • I play solo often. It's all about being paranoid. Check your surroundings often. You're more manuerable than a galleon and faster into the wind. Figure it out.

  • OP isn't gonna listen to any of us. All he wants is a private server which will bore him out of his mind waaaay before hitting legend.

  • @crimsoninsomnia said in My biggest complaint from playing as a solo sloop:

    I really feel like this game has the odds stacked against those of us that just do solo sloop adventures in this game.

    It's almost like you didn't read the part that tells you solo slooping is the hardest way to play this game.

    PVP is a big part of the game you're just going to have to get used to it.

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