So.... is this legit PvP?

  • My friend and I surprise attacked a docked galleon for easy loot. It turns out the crew wasn't very good, but I feel like the video summarizes everyone outlook on PvP.

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  • this to me is more of a good example of the pros of using pc vs console

  • Best part of the video was when the person playing stole their chest and tried to turn it in at the skull lady 3 times before realizing it goes to the gold hoarder.

  • I love farming xbox players

  • low level loot must be xbox players

  • Xbox: "please make crossplay OPTIONAL..Dont get rid of it..just OPTIONAL..

    PC "Nnnooo it will destroy the community and I only bought it in the first place because it had crossplay doooonnnnttt take my obvious advantage so i can feel like i am better than i really am"

    Also pc players "love farming xbox players, must be xbox scrubs, great display of pc advantage"....

    Hhhhhmmmmmmm

    I play on both FYI. Should be OPTIONAL.
    fight me

    To answer OP no i dont think pc players vs console is legit pvp the advantage is obvious. I dont blame the pc folk they are just using the tools available, no way to truly balance it. Having an OPTION to disable it iant going to ruin anything and still let pc players play w their console buddies that want to.

    Sails away

  • @shuoink said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    I play on both FYI. Should be OPTIONAL.
    fight me

    Okay, it shouldn't be optional. If it was optional, the community would shrink and the game would die out. As for PC controls being advantageous, they should just let Xbox players use a keyboard and mouse on Xbox. I mean, I can play with a Xbox controller on the PC so why not?

  • Also, it's probably not fair to say the reason we won was because of controls. We've played this game just about every day since release and even participated in the beta. In that time my friend and I have only done PvP, so there's definitely a skill gap.

  • Looked to me like he was playing against rooks. Half of his kills were either from them running or unarmed. I saw no sliding, jumps or blocks from that crew. It had nothing to do with pc vs Xbox as the killer wasn't bunny hopping all over. He simply whipped their butts! Great job!

  • The player's perspective we were watching was simply trolling. PvP has an end goal, usually spawn killing is to siphon supplies from the enemy ship. Not a fan of the commentary from the player we were watching either but to each their own I suppose.

    He did steal loot but he did it in a very inefficient way and simply wanted to bully more than actually complete his objective. Usually when I kill people I don't talk at all and just let my skill speak for itself (good or bad depending if you're better or worse than me).

    However, in regards to committing piracy in a pirate game that was spot on. In history pirates would wave a friendly flag to ships and board them, usually talk to the captain then reveal they were pirates and rob them blind. Most of the time they would let a large portion of the crew survive and wouldn't shed much blood (unless they were flying the Red Jolly Roger which meant "No Quarter" would be given).

    In a pirate game let alone one called Sea of THIEVES theft and piracy is both expected and even encouraged. It is rare in a game that someone won't fight back because even if they lose there are no long term repercussions unlike in real life if you die you're done. So in a game you have to kill the crew over and over again until you have completed your objective. This is not grieving, this is piracy.

    In game grieving is when you go out of your way to ruin someones day. In this game it usually is harassment verbally with repeated in game killing when you aren't attempting to siphon supplies or steal loot. Really what gives away grieving is mainly what they are saying and how long they stick around to keep doing it.

    I'm not sure what the intent of the OP was, but I know that no-one will convince me to stop PvPing and I won't be more friendly to anyone unless Rare makes me via an event. But once I'm personally done with it I will ruin anyone else's attempts at it simply to make them work for it more. I welcome others to do the same with me, I love a good challenge.

  • i think i get what the point of the OP was. see what people consider to be griefing. and great on point, the board is clearly divided. i know i started the conversation off in a different direction. while some will see this video as a good tactic, others will see it as bad form. just shows the game is what you make it

  • I'll say it did. The game has a PvP mechanic, but people only want you to use it under certain conditions, otherwise its trolling, griefing, or bullying. Keep up the good work OP. Keep adding salt to the seas until Rare adds in some PvP.

  • @ik0tt0n dijo en So.... is this legit PvP?:

    Best part of the video was when the person playing stole their chest and tried to turn it in at the skull lady 3 times before realizing it goes to the gold hoarder.

    Yeah man, that was ridiculous, at first I thought he was a new player to the game because he had a pistol with no skin, but then I realized he was level 37 in gold hoarders faction lol

  • Not sure if this is your own video, but if it is you are clearly trying to be funny here...for who I don't know because it was pretty dumb. The commentary wasn't even clever. You should probably try to hone the craft before posting these terrible videos.

  • @xxx1ra1xxx said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    @ik0tt0n dijo en So.... is this legit PvP?:

    Best part of the video was when the person playing stole their chest and tried to turn it in at the skull lady 3 times before realizing it goes to the gold hoarder.

    Yeah man, that was ridiculous, at first I thought he was a new player to the game because he had a pistol with no skin, but then I realized he was level 37 in gold hoarders faction lol

    lol, yeah, I made it a habit not to use any skins so enemies are more likely to underestimate me in combat. If you saw my character you'd probably laugh since it's just a generic ugly pirate with nothing but pants and sandals on.

  • @ik0tt0n said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    Best part of the video was when the person playing stole their chest and tried to turn it in at the skull lady 3 times before realizing it goes to the gold hoarder.

    I got distracted haha

  • @flying-poopla said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    Not sure if this is your own video, but if it is you are clearly trying to be funny here...for who I don't know because it was pretty dumb. The commentary wasn't even clever. You should probably try to hone the craft before posting these terrible videos.

    Interesting, I thought the words matched my actions. For example, "What's going on up here?" as I peered over the top of the ladder or "Thanks for the... foul bounty skull? This is trash" as I stole it from the running pirate. To each his own I guess.

  • @shad0wsdab0m said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    @shuoink said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    I play on both FYI. Should be OPTIONAL.
    fight me

    Okay, it shouldn't be optional. If it was optional, the community would shrink and the game would die out. As for PC controls being advantageous, they should just let Xbox players use a keyboard and mouse on Xbox. I mean, I can play with a Xbox controller on the PC so why not?

    I read another thread with an article saying xbox was going that route. Didnt give an ETA but still interesting, would start to give a big edge over other consoles.

  • @norloc I hope so considering Microsoft is trying to make all their new games cross compatible with windows 10.

  • @shad0wsdab0m

    Beyond that even, e3 Msoft teased about next gen console. In that article the devs were saying they are more than likely going to stream their own content making consoles obsolete, one more maybe two console gens left. Just one way of getting ahead of that curve

  • @zherron-vorse said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    The player's perspective we were watching was simply trolling. PvP has an end goal, usually spawn killing is to siphon supplies from the enemy ship. Not a fan of the commentary from the player we were watching either but to each their own I suppose.

    He did steal loot but he did it in a very inefficient way and simply wanted to bully more than actually complete his objective. Usually when I kill people I don't talk at all and just let my skill speak for itself (good or bad depending if you're better or worse than me).

    I disagree, my goal was to steal their loot and do so by creating a distraction for my buddy to sneak in. As you can see in the video, I'm constantly moving and mostly camping the objectives. Heck, when I found out they had nothing more to take, I left. If I was truly trolling/bullying them, I'd have stayed (at least) until they managed to kill me or scuttled.

    However, in regards to committing piracy in a pirate game that was spot on. In history pirates would wave a friendly flag to ships and board them, usually talk to the captain then reveal they were pirates and rob them blind. Most of the time they would let a large portion of the crew survive and wouldn't shed much blood (unless they were flying the Red Jolly Roger which meant "No Quarter" would be given).

    In a pirate game let alone one called Sea of THIEVES theft and piracy is both expected and even encouraged. It is rare in a game that someone won't fight back because even if they lose there are no long term repercussions unlike in real life if you die you're done. So in a game you have to kill the crew over and over again until you have completed your objective. This is not grieving, this is piracy.

    In game grieving is when you go out of your way to ruin someones day. In this game it usually is harassment verbally with repeated in game killing when you aren't attempting to siphon supplies or steal loot. Really what gives away grieving is mainly what they are saying and how long they stick around to keep doing it.

    I'm not sure what the intent of the OP was, but I know that no-one will convince me to stop PvPing and I won't be more friendly to anyone unless Rare makes me via an event. But once I'm personally done with it I will ruin anyone else's attempts at it simply to make them work for it more. I welcome others to do the same with me, I love a good challenge.

    Well said.

  • @pure-rare said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    @bola-satanica said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    I love farming xbox players

    What a hero... try and farm this Xbox player hero

    I'm a PC player and I totally agree with you. There's plenty of X-Box players who can whoop my rear quarter. I'm amazed at what they can do. I'm not saying PC doesnt have an advantage it does but There are some true heroes on the X-box side.

    As for the Video It's kinda fun to see it because it's clearly a pretty new crew running into its first encounter with seasoned pirates. On the other hand it's kinda sad, they lost such bad loot and got wo whooped, hope they stick to it hone their tactics and get better.

    The OP isnt even taking full advantage of the Pc's controlls He's not hopping around 360 no scoping etc. The crew outnumbered him 2-1 but didnt take that advantage in stead running around unfocussed. I cant even tell if they're X-box or Pc players (got no sound on so they might tell him at some point).

    I'd have left them alone after looting them but to each his owon.

  • @shad0wsdab0m said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    @shuoink said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    I play on both FYI. Should be OPTIONAL.
    fight me

    Okay, it shouldn't be optional. If it was optional, the community would shrink and the game would die out. As for PC controls being advantageous, they should just let Xbox players use a keyboard and mouse on Xbox. I mean, I can play with a Xbox controller on the PC so why not?

    Care to explain why the community would die out? If there was only 10,000 PC players, that would be enough to fill your server with people you havent met yet, and you arent going to memoriseall those names to know if u fought them before, so crying about the community isnt really a valid point. If anything, xbox users could grow even larger with OPTIONAL crossplay, meaning more sales and microtransactions for Rare.
    Your second point, 'let xbox use kb/m'. Some cant afford accessorises, some got a console to get away from PC hardware and software differences, i went down the console path BECAUSE everyone was on a relatively even ground. So no kb/m for xbox thanks.Just watching that video, seeing how quickly a mouse can aquire a target,made me lol at Rare for thinking this would work. Optional Crossplay for a level playing field !

  • @pomalotacusmk3 said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    Your second point, 'let xbox use kb/m'. Some cant afford accessorises,

    A Keyboard and mouse combo will set you back around 10-20 euros if you can't afford that I dont know how you can afford games.

    I love crossplay because it gives me more people to play with both in my team and as random people on the seas.

    I've never heard an X-box player complain in game about being disadvantaged. Most of the time I'm not even thinking aobut them being seperate players on seperate systems.

    As for the argument about having to play with KB/M you're not forced to. It should just be added to X-box period. For convenience and for games like this, minecraft etc. Just like Pc players can use a controller (I frankly love playing games with my X-box 360 controller) X-Bone players should be able to use KB/M at least for games like this and Minecraft.

    Besides where do you draw the line, will you also seperate people who use pro controllers? With the extended triggers handles and other features that make controlling easier? People who use adapters to imput KB/M, people using X-box one X because of loading times, people who use an SSD in their X-box. This isnt a PC problem this is a problem MS made when they designed a console based on PC, you've got a miniature PC without the option to use Kb/m.

  • here we go again..............

    People place your bets on who will win!
    The make crossplay opt rebels?
    Or the "White Knights" of we like forced crossplay because thats what gaming should be about, fun, not boundaries.

    and lets actually analyze that video, its not a matter of pros of playing pc.
    These players were clearly new, even the black dog guy, they had black sails, 7k gold, and everything else was basic, and clothing too.
    The loot they had, with the adjustment to how good loot you get for voyages, the were clearly new, and doing super low level quests, maybe their first few voyages?
    2 fouls, 1 castaway, and 1 marauder.
    super low level.
    they were still learning the game, the dont stand against someone that knows the game well, just like any other game.
    I cant just pop in Halo, or LoL and to expect myself to just be a god, no, i have to learn the things to do the things, same with this game.

  • @hynieth I can affod whatever i want, but what about kids, teens, and people on a budget? I guess they are out of luck?As I said above, i chose Xbox because its a RELATIVELY even playing field. You can use whatever accessories and extras you want on the xbox, its still way off of a PC level. Thats where you draw the line in server splitting, crossplay on or off.
    Yes im aware i dont HAVE to use a kb/m, but i know im at a disadvantage if i dont...
    You said u like crossplay coz of the extra ppl- even on a PC only server, you'll still have thousands of players to be matched with, so there wont be any noticeable difference, apart from the guys turning like a tank...

  • @shad0wsdab0m написал в So.... is this legit PvP?:

    My friend and I surprise attacked a docked galleon for easy loot. It turns out the crew wasn't very good, but I feel like the video summarizes everyone outlook on PvP.

    So you posted a video where you beating noobs ? WOW thats skill, what exactly you want to prove with this?
    Edited: watched vid. fully - you are bad aswell but they much more not intoPvP

  • @pomalotacusmk3 But that's the problem. The guy turning like a tank could be a Pc player it could be an X-Box player, the guy bunnyhopping could be a PC player it could be an x-box player. There already is a way to use kb/m support and since you can ajust everything people who use this are already at an advantage. Saying that making crossplay optional will solve this is just wrong.

    I've used a controller and besides the fact that I'm really not used to using a controller in a first person game I'm proficient enough with it to bunny hop quickturn and stab someone in the back with a sword with it. I just ajusted turning rates and button layouts. When someone is good with a controller I'm afraid I'm not able to tell you if he/she's a xbox player. (I'm not able to tell you in the first place anhow).

    Yesterday I met a crew and did some friendly duels, they beat me a few times both with guns and with swords. Afterwards I saw a screenshot of what the guys had on board and saw the button to interact with X so I'd say practise some more and strive to be good.

    Word has also just come out that X-Box is going to be supporting kb/m so yeah the cookie just crumbled into the favor of making the playing field equal so I can keep my x-box friends ^_^

  • When everyone is suggesting that Xbox players are farmable and bad, yet almost every time I come into contact with a PC player they are the ones typing up a storm as their ship sinks and earns a good 'ol block for bringing their toxicity out.

  • @nefrit-od said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    So you posted a video where you beating noobs ? WOW thats skill, what exactly you want to prove with this?

    I posted it because I thought it was funny.

    you are bad aswell

    Think what you want, but without proof of your own skill level those words don't mean much.

  • @kawaii-dumpling said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    When everyone is suggesting that Xbox players are farmable and bad, yet almost every time I come into contact with a PC player they are the ones typing up a storm as their ship sinks and earns a good 'ol block for bringing their toxicity out.

    You sir get it :-) We need more people who just hone their skills with FPS controller skills and get good at it to the point where it doesnt matter if it's a PC or X-box player.
    Hats off to you sir.

  • @shad0wsdab0m написал в So.... is this legit PvP?:

    @nefrit-od said in So.... is this legit PvP?:

    So you posted a video where you beating noobs ? WOW thats skill, what exactly you want to prove with this?

    I posted it because I thought it was funny.

    you are bad aswell

    Think what you want, but without proof of your own skill level those words don't mean much.

    Much more on a channel
    enjoy and those videos like from release dates so we all was noobs

  • @shad0wsdab0m

    You were trolling pretty hard in the video. Not to mention you're essentially trash talking and that's not permitted on the forums, especially when the enemy crews gamertags are clear as day in the video.

    Good on you I guess for accomplishing so little? PS.. You missed a lot of shots.

  • After seeing their treasure I would have just given them one of my chests. Looks like the ship had 3 noobs and 1 guy decked out in Athena gear. Obviously a training mission.

    Some people enjoy taking candy from babies and some people find that offensive. I say, take the L and move on. This game has taught me to be tolerant of loss... it's going to happen.

  • @hynieth People turning like tanks on pc or xbox isnt the problem, people turning like Ferraris with mouse accuracy, in the same game as the tanks is the proble. The current kb/m options for xbox are trash compared to pc hardware.You might not be able to tell, but myself and many others can identify kb/m players straight away, but sure, tell me to practice and 'git gud'.Isaw the xbox kb/m article too...Text chat, PTT, FPS, refresh rates, loading times, etc are still not 'level playing field', so dont eat all those cookie crumbs just yet😉

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