Pay to win pistols.

@coyote4711 You not agreeing =/= "fake argument". I've already simplified my point in as many ways as I can think of so you can scroll through my previous comments if you care to see them. I never argued that you could "win" this game, but winning fights is very important if you are in one(if you care anything about the ingame progression). plus I'm sure that you're not against having iron sights added into the game for everyone, so talking about this is pointless.

@daddymacdown It's not a big deal IMO either. But, in a game with no other form of augmentation it bothers me quite a bit, and it's hard to see it as coincidence that the only pistols with functioning iron sights are paid exclusive or event exclusive. If it were up to me, I would add the ability to mod weapons with multiple types of optics based on player preference, but i would settle for simply having a pistol with iron sights added into the game for everyone(if rare want's to keep pretending that everyone is on an even playing field).

The pistols come from buying a SoT exclusive controller, a 3 month SoT Xbox live pass(or game pass?), and from a promo with "mixer".

@betsill I think most peoples points at they aren't "functioning", they are purely aesthetic, which you obviously disagree but I'm pretty sure the consensus is that it doesn't make a difference, I'd say the best pistols for shooting with are the hex/pentagon (I forget exactly how many sides they have but there is a point at the top of the barrel) shaped barrels are the easiest to aim and they have no ironsights to speak of.

These aesthetic ones do nothing but obscure potential targets or portions of them, which is somewhat of a disadvantage if anything, and something that ironsights try to minimize, if anything the playing field is tilted towards the non-ironsight pistol weilding pirates.

@elchupacabraj86 No, they are functioning iron sights. The bullet lands at the top of the post, not the top of the barrel underneath it. Not that the consensus matters if they are wrong, but the consensus among the people who are against my OP is that iron sights in general don't do anything(idk if it's because they are ignorant on the matter, or they are just defending rare). I even had one person try to tell me that people don't aim down sights in real life except when doing target practice XD

@theothervillain said in Pay to win pistols.:

@elchupacabraj86 said in Pay to win pistols.:

Real ironsights would generally be two points on the top of the weapon that when aligned mean you are looking roughly where the bullet should hit right?

In this game, you don't need to do that, wherever the muzzle is pointing the gun fires, you don't need to line up two points for it to be accurate.... Drop the argument that because you need them in real life you need them in the game, it doesn't make a difference.

@elchupacabraj86 Wait...so this isn't like real life?? 😲

You mean I've been closing one eye when I aim, all this time, for nothing?!

That's it, I'm done with this game. I was playing it strickly for it's supposedly realistic portrayal of pirate life!

So who wants a gently used copy of a game of lies? I'll cut ya a good deal.

....you close your eye when you aim?...

we are still going on with this?
the OP wants to say pay to win pistols, we all wanna say no its not.

we cant stop, he wont stop.

see the issue?

its an on going gag, a dead horse again.

@theothervillain said in Pay to win pistols.:

@rattlyfob You don't shoot, do you?

I do actually, a lot. From a practical standpoint its better to shoot without decreasing your periferal vision and let someone blind side you ;)

@theothervillain If your just shooting a single target, it's not a big deal. Closing one eye can help some people focus, but for the most part it doesn't really help and it's better not to form bad habbits. I used to shoot with one eye closed(when using a scope), but I had to break that habit as I shot more. In competitive shooting and real world applications(military, home invasion, etc) closing one eye and narrowing your perception of the environment can cost you dearly.

@cellembreo I'll check it out. For me, having a proper sights helps a ton. Thank you for being civil with your disagreement though!

@theothervillain Can we agree that a pistol with iron sights should be added into the game for everyone to buy(with gold)?

@betsill there will be and there are some already in the game that you can buy.

@onyx-wartooth There aren't any in the game with functioning iron sights other than the ones I mentioned. If they add them then everything will be fine and I wont have anything to complain about(at least when it comes to weapon skins lol)

@betsill said in Pay to win pistols.:

@onyx-wartooth There aren't any in the game with functioning iron sights other than the ones I mentioned. If they add them then everything will be fine and I wont have anything to complain about(at least when it comes to weapon skins lol)

But thats all they are, skins.
They do not add an advantage or anything, the bullet doesn't travel faster, the reload isnt shorter, the bullet does have a bigger punc or anything,
its a mental thought.
plus have you tried to hipfire any of the guns?
they all land super close together, theres no spread.

@onyx-wartooth I've already addressed the function of iron sights and why having them is an advantage over not having them so I'm not gonna address that anymore(see my previous comments). I can't hip fire for c**p and I've never do it unless i'm pretty much in melee range. I've heard that the blunderbuss has higher spread when hip firing?

Does the OP have any of these weapons?
Has he actually used them ingame?

This may help us in understanding your point of view.

@barnabas-seadog I only use the Ebon pistol and it helps a ton at making my shot placement more consistent compared to the other pistols...

If you arm yourself with the Eye of Reach, and raise it to aim, note where the cracks in the glass meet. Then put a tiny ball of Blu-Tack on your screen at that point. Voila! Instant iron sight for any pistol.

@admiral-greyjoy With Blu-Tack "sight" in place, I tried firing at the ship's bell from the hip, too. I did not always get a "ping!" so suspect the aim is nerfed slightly when you do that.

@admiral-greyjoy I-i-i just can't man! It just feels wrong. Like i'm committing a shooting sin even if it's just in a video game. lol

@theothervillain said in Pay to win pistols.:

@rattlyfob i would argue its better to hit your target than it is to worry about someone getting the jump on you while you're concentrating on aiming but to each their own. I would like to see what your target looks like beyond forty feet though.

You can look up what open eye sight pictures look like, its not hard to learn

@SurveyorPete

@theothervillain "this game doesn't even have crit hits so I precision isn't all that important." Wait what? you don't get a boost in dmg for headshots? Every time I was 100% sure i got a headshot I killed them in one hit. Was it just because they were low on health? I've also been one-shot by a rifle from full HP 2 or 3 times.

@theothervillain ... I need to find this out. Someone mentioned this before, but I thought they were just joking/trolling. I've never played/heard of a game with combat that doesn't have a head-shot mult. Even games like For honor have a bonus for melee hits that hit the head...

@theothervillain Head shots doing more dmg is just common sense game design. I'ts a harder target to hit so you should be rewarded if you manage to do so(also... that's where the brain is). It's just really unituitive for it not to take dmg, and intuitiveness is something this game does really well otherwise. Hopefully they do add crouching since I want to crouch in this game ALL THE TIME lol but I can't. I'm OP by the way lol If it came across as a "big deal" from a balance perspective, it is really just about the principle of the matter. If we don't call Rare out for exclusive content that gives people an advantage that other people can't get unless they pay extra, what's to stop them from doing it more? Like adding a special "Eye of reach" with proper cross-hairs instead of the horrid crack in the glass.

Just saw your other comment. I really wanna find an "official" Rare comment on the matter of headshots. In the meantime imma try and find someone afk/not paying attention and see if I can kill them with one headshot lol