RARE give us an official statement.

@capt-crunch1969 said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@hrenli said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@capt-crunch1969 said in RARE give us an official statement.:

not dilivering what they promiced

Could you please share your knowledge and provide a link to a factual promise made by Rare which is not implemented in the game?

their ya go enjoy

Sea of Thieves Angry Review

I like how people post angry joe like he is even relevent anymore. And nothing in here was promised by rare that we did not get. Just a angry yelling Latino who does not like the game.

@dampiar I like custard creams.

@knifelife said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@cupohemlock said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@capt-crunch1969 said in RARE give us an official statement.:

I would like to see RARE come out and post an official post on what they plan to do with the lack of content and not dilivering what they promiced and what they intent to do and a time frame ect.....

Rare delivered exactly what they promised at launch.

Rare never specifically said exactly what was coming at launch, they didnt give a list or anything. They used alot of marketing talk to let peoples imaginations sell the game for them. They spoke in riddles alot of the time and didnt particularly deny or let players know that they had got there expectations way to high.

I always see you giving this argument and its just not true They never really gave any specifics on much and let there players hype up the game and insinuate there was tonnes more content then there actually was.

While they didnt lie about content they wasnt open about it either..

We completely disagree. There have been Dev blogs and Youtube's about what to expect. No promises were made for anything more than what we have now.

@lowbei said in RARE give us an official statement.:

rare doesnt owe you any answer. you bought their game. stop whining.

"Rare doesn't owe you anything"
"You bought their game"

Pick one. Only one of these can be true.

@ironuzuka said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@baronstinkbeard This guy is a very sensible player and has a good mindset imo. I have been watching his content for a while now, but not just his. I also stumbled upon Angry Joe's video. We need Angry Joe when things are really going down the wrong path (EA Casino MicroTransaction, Destiny service joke, PUBG going back on MODS, etc ...). But I do not feel we have even engaged on such a path with SoT. Anyway I'll let the videos (and Jack) speak for themselves, Enjoy!

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And I agree but there is still nothing in either video that was a specific promise by rare that we never got...

It is like when people got upset about battlefront 1 not having a campgain. Dice never said we would get one...

Nothing that rare promised that we did not get. That is what is so mind blowing. People are saying rare promised stuff and that we did not get it. What was promised?

How can Rare control what people think??

Most of the videos I got were from their Twitter page!

@ironuzuka said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@baronstinkbeard Agreed about the official announcement thing. Jack is just a nicer and more constructed way of saying the game is good and delivers on what was promised, BUT here is what HE feels could improve the overall experience.

Baronstinkbeard, I do think that we agree on the core issues.

Oh definitly on the core of the game. 100% A+. Can it be improved, yes. And they are. They have said they are. But this whole "things promised that we did not get" BS is just that BS.

@ironuzuka Wait, wait, wait, did you just compare house construction to that of game development? Artistic design vs actual living conditions? Hang on a second here...

I however won't point that out too terribly much because your statement against me or to me for that matter is true. I am biased towards white knights, want to know why? Look at For honor, look at it's state. Look at Absolver, look at it's state, two recent examples of people going "Na, it's fine!" and yet after months of subjective criticism Ubisoft pulls the plug on the idea of no dedicated servers and offers them, to what player base is left? Absolver? Well, in a similar boat, yet it isn't the problem with the servers, but the player base wanting basic balance.

See, the problem isn't so much I hate white knights, I just hate people who don't see the bigger picture or can see the game's bigger potential with a few tweaks and fixes, that do not alter or hinder the game's original design in anyway and offer to benefit it in the long run to multiple new buyers or potential unhappy old ones.

So, you know? Good for you if you think I am wrong? It's an opinion after all, but one I stick by and the developers who listen to their consumers, not go with their idea be it right or wrong, tend to get by a lot better in the long run. RARE is a company I trust, but I honestly don't see thing going well for them if they continue the path they've currently set for themselves. Adjustment is part of development and sometimes,you need help figuring out what is needed to adjust.

@ironuzuka

@cupohemlock said in RARE give us an official statement.:

How can Rare control what people think??

Most of the videos I got were from their Twitter page!

They participated in previews which exaggerated and hyped the game, sometimes Rare employees joined in with that hype. They had a moral obligation to correct any inaccuracies. They should have had disclaimers in every gameplay video regarding whether what was shown represented actual gameplay or the final release, like almost every single other game does. I've not found a single SoT video featuring that common disclaimer, yet there are things shown or talked about in those preview videos which are not currently in the game and we have had no explanation for why.

Rare has done public Q&As where they were asked specific questions about content, which they had an obligation to be honest and open about but their only responses were in the realm of 'more soon' in perpetuity and this remains the case.

I love the game, but it has problems and they need dealing with. The game is in danger of 'doing an Evolve' if nothing changes and that is absolutely the worst thing that could happen. Those who discourage certain types of negative feedback with responses like "you got what you paid for"(caveat emptor) make that scenario MORE LIKELY. Stop it, please. You can not help Rare or SoT by getting annoyed by some of the feedback, enough so that you feel it's worthwhile to undermine people who post it.

Rare themselves can not use 'caveat emptor' as a response to criticism about the woeful lack of things to do in the game and the repetitive gameplay loop of find, fight and fetch. If they did, no one would ever buy anything they produced again, reasonably so. It's an argument which has a lifespan of milliseconds.

@nightmare247365 said in RARE give us an official statement.:

@arecbalrin

Actually, both can be true.

FACT: You purchased the Game. - There is no debating that you paid money for this.

FACT: If RARE Provided you with a digital or physical copy of the game and you can log into their servers. They have fulfilled their end of the agreement/contract and no longer "owe" you anything.

So both are true. Now we as purchasers/investors can request update information, but there is nothing to say that they also cannot just disappear into the wind. Never to be seen or heard from again.

So before you say you can only pick one.....

Caveat emptor: the graveyard of many once-great businesses. Both can not be true because if both are true, there is no reason to ever trust anything a company ever says ever again, nothing they say can be taken at face-value, no good-will can ever be extended to them because they will exploit it. There is a reason Rare and Microsoft's PR people are not using such an argument: they may as well take cyanide.

@nightmare247365 Erm, where did I say that "the buyer has to beware"? That is literally the exact opposite of what I said. "Buyer beware" is immoral in a market-economy system like what most in the west live in and outright illegal in the European Union.

That Rare has provided updates regarding technical problems with the game is moot: the staff who are doing the fixing are not the same staff who are producing content for the game, they should be working on something so there should have been a Thursday update rather than silence.

Rare were asked specific questions about content in their own Q&As and they chose not to respond adequately, if at all. I'm running out of faith and the sheer preponderance of people determined to see that all content-related negative feedback stops makes the worst-case scenario more likely. Having been one of the few idiots who invested deep into Evolve three years ago, I'm seeing echoes and the people trying to shut-down content feedback are making me nervous.

Caveat emptor will kill SoT. So please, stop.

@nightmare247365 Yes, you have absolutely taken me saying 'buyer beware is immoral and in many places illegal' out of context. I don't see how it could have been any more clearer though.

I'm not sure how you then go off on a tangent about 'ideas', I can hardly follow what you are even saying.

The devs have had years to get content ready for launch. They had multiple opportunities to answer questions put to them specifically about content and they gave non-responses. They are responsible for what they say and what they don't say and having failed to correct inaccurate information about the game circulating, this is something they could have addressed on the regular Thursday slot for their Youtube channel but they didn't.

Evolve died because of publisher interference from 2K(who bought the IP) and because the developer failed to deliver content for months. When it did come it was too little, too late and then when Evolve had a resurgence when it went free-to-play, the same problem: there was nothing new. Most games do not get a second-chance but it was blown. All we have for SoT is a ball-park '3 months' for the first content update, the only thing we know will be in that update is Legendary Captain status, micro-transactions and pets. We don't know if the quest-structure will be overhauled, if new items will be available, if gameplay changes will happen etc. These have all been unanswered questions and the best Rare could manage was 'more soon' but there hasn't been anything.

We trusted 'more soon' before release and then release came and people felt burned. The same people who said 'this is just a beta/scale test, there will be loads more at release' then changed to 'you got what you paid for, this is what we knew we'd be getting', no shame at all. They will help this game die faster if that looks to be where it is heading. It won't make it to the first content update. If this keeps up, I will seek a refund.