Why SOT has failed as a game.

  • AbysswalkerPTS
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    I vouched for this game since I played it a lot on betas and it was amazing. The insane price was a problem for me and many of my friends but I knew the game had a lot more to offer than what we've seen in the beta. So I pushed all of my friends to try it and thankfully they found ways to play it for free through subscriptions and trials.

    The problem is that the game has too little content for the extreme price and the only interesting thing that the game has to offer: becoming a pirate legend, requires months of boring grinding. I have been playing hours every day doing the same thing over and over again and i barely got to rep 28 overall. And since it gets harder and harder to level up rep, no one wants to grind a repetitive game for months. And since everyone got the game with a trial subscription, in 1 week or so SOT is going to be a ghostown...

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  • CAPT Gnashmaw
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    @abysswalkerpts not everyone got the game on a trial subscription. I paid the $60. I don't think SoT has failed as a game, since I'm still having fun with it, but it screwed up its launch bad.

  • LoboFH
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    Rep 28 in one week and you complain...

    You will be 50 in two and you will complain again.

  • UVG Reign
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    I paid £50 for SOT, the problem I have is the grinding feels so much like your average f2p game

  • Sneakler
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    Sadly, these posts are getting old.

    Yes this game needs more.

    In 3 and 6 months I feel it will start to become more of a complete game. Do I wish that was the case at launch...yes I do.

    But I cannot stand the whining of people who have logged multiple hours a day since launch and played 5 times as much as your average person complaining that they are bored.

    This isn't 1997 where Goldeneye launches and there are no patches or updates.

    Sea of Thieves will continue to grow as a game and that's what I'm excited about. What we have right now is basic and limited. We know this.

  • AbysswalkerPTS
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    @torrcha I am more than 1 person. I am talking for me and 9 other friends that we all played the game together and they all say the same think. And yeah i got to rep 28 and I can't dig out 1 more chest. And yes, if me and 9 other people we all think it got extremely boring in 1 week then I am guessing more than us 10 will have the same opinion. But I get the people that defend the game. No one wants to admit they wasted 50 pounds.

  • sweetbeard90

    @torrcha said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    @abysswalkerpts so are you more than one person? What makes your interests and reasons to play the game to be the same as others? I advise you to get over yourself pretty quickly and give the game more than a week before casting judgement. But we live in an age where people have a 30 second attention span. Go play Farcry and whine about how Ubisoft is s**t too. You whiners are ALL the same, no patience or a heroine addict mentality towards the game. If you burned out on SoT you have no one to blame but yourself. Get another hobby.

    Oh shut up.... go read the endless forum posts, reddit posts, video game reviewers and twitch streamers. He is not the only one by far that feels this way...

  • Pir4te Roberts
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    @abysswalkerpts said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    I vouched for this game since I played it a lot on betas and it was amazing. The insane price was a problem for me and many of my friends but I knew the game had a lot more to offer than what we've seen in the beta. So I pushed all of my friends to try it and thankfully they found ways to play it for free through subscriptions and trials.

    The problem is that the game has too little content for the extreme price and the only interesting thing that the game has to offer: becoming a pirate legend, requires months of boring grinding. I have been playing hours every day doing the same thing over and over again and i barely got to rep 28 overall. And since it gets harder and harder to level up rep, no one wants to grind a repetitive game for months. And since everyone got the game with a trial subscription, in 1 week or so SOT is going to be a ghostown...

    2 million players.. . .......

  • AbysswalkerPTS
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    @sneakler Yes my friend, I get you. The problem though is that in today's community no one will sit and wait 6 months for the game to have content. Everyone will lose interest much much earlier than that. They already have! It's going to be like For Honor. Huge hype but they had a failed launch and everyone stopped playing within a month. After 2 months i kept playing and i was queueing with the same people over and over that i learned everyones name and playstyle. This feels the same...

  • SillyColt302271

    @abysswalkerpts said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    I vouched for this game since I played it a lot on betas and it was amazing. The insane price was a problem for me and many of my friends but I knew the game had a lot more to offer than what we've seen in the beta. So I pushed all of my friends to try it and thankfully they found ways to play it for free through subscriptions and trials.

    The problem is that the game has too little content for the extreme price and the only interesting thing that the game has to offer: becoming a pirate legend, requires months of boring grinding. I have been playing hours every day doing the same thing over and over again and i barely got to rep 28 overall. And since it gets harder and harder to level up rep, no one wants to grind a repetitive game for months. And since everyone got the game with a trial subscription, in 1 week or so SOT is going to be a ghostown...

    There are already players at 46-48. We’re are you getting months of grinding? I have only played a couple of days and am pretty mush 25 on everything. Guaranteed in a couple more days there will be plenty of pirate legends

  • Torrcha

    @hampus0013 And I disagree so that gets us right back to square one. Anyway. I can't get enough of SoT and I've been playing since launch, just not like a crack head. Most people have been binging the game, either way there were plenty of betas and reviews like you said so it doesn't make any sense why people should feel cheated. I'm chopping the amount of people whining on the forum to the general weakness and whiny nature most of society has gone in the last 15+ years. But go on with your excuses, go post some more garbage YouTubers or something who's opinion is in line with yours. I don't have the time to google positive videos about SoT(not that it would be difficult) because I have a life, and s**t to do.

  • Sneakler
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    @abysswalkerpts said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    @sneakler Yes my friend, I get you. The problem though is that in today's community no one will sit and wait 6 months for the game to have content. Everyone will lose interest much much earlier than that. They already have! It's going to be like For Honor. Huge hype but they had a failed launch and everyone stopped playing within a month. After 2 months i kept playing and i was queueing with the same people over and over that i learned everyones name and playstyle. This feels the same...

    I get what you are saying. But SoT...has the advantage of the March launch. Games that have launched in this month...The Division, Titanfall...these games all have free reign on the market until October/November holiday market flooding with Cod/battlefield/red dead redemption possibly this year.

    Games can ressurect their playerbase if people do leave. Rainbow Six Siege is one of the best examples in the history of gaming of that.

    It just depends what they choose to add with the first 2 major updates. These first 2-3 updates will decide this games fate.

  • Gh0st ARM

    It's a game, it's just light on content. Therefore it is not a failed game by definition.

    I agree with 90% of the feedback and complaints so far, but I'm still having a blast with this game.

    All it needs is a nice chunk of new content for free and SOT will be on a path to being one of the best games ever, IMO.

  • Perfect Dark 51
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    @sneakler said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    This isn't 1997 where Goldeneye launches and there are no patches or updates.

    Sea of Thieves will continue to grow as a game and that's what I'm excited about. What we have right now is basic and limited. We know this.

    Well when a 18 year old game like Perfect Dark comes out of the box with more content than this game its pretty sad. The game is basic and limited as it is now and it was released with a full price tag. The promise of content isn't good enough, especially when you have no idea what it is.

  • Badge Uju
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    Hey I didn’t know airmchairs could be game designers

  • Jaxon7602
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    @lobofh
    thats not how the game works, it requires more exp to get each level as you go higher

  • LoboFH
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    @smashergames dijo en Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    @lobofh
    thats not how the game works, it requires more exp to get each level as you go higher

    Or 3 or 4 weeks, I mean, he will complain when he makes to 50 like in any other MMO out there, some players speedrun the game and later they whine because the road is over.

    Rep 28 in one week is an amazing progress.

  • Goblobsters

    I dont really watch youtubers in general (I make my own opinions rather than letting some dude on the internet make it for me). I dont think sea of thieves has failed as a game, as its pretty fun. As with most persistent/living world types of games the early adopters will have the least amount of toys to play with. But they will add more as time progresses and they wont be charging for them.

    So if its not your cup of tea, then hold off on the purchase until you feel its worth your money (or not if that thats the case). I got it on day one knowing it was not going "finished". But I wanted to be here for the ride. Heck RARE was pretty honest about what was in the game and when we are looking at getting more.

    I hear some people crying early access. I'm torn on that, there is actually a good bit of game space there and what is there is pretty polished. I will concede that there could be more variation in PVE activities, and I am eagerly waiting for additions in this arena.

    But so far IMO the game has been pretty successful where it counts: Its really fun, and there are no other gaming experiences quite like it.

    But thats just my feelings, not trying to invalidate your opinions/complaints/ feelings.

  • Sneakler
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    @abysswalkerpts said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    But I get the people that defend the game. No one wants to admit they wasted 50 pounds.

    Money? Really? Can your line of thinking be any more narrow?

    What is wrong with the following statement:

    The game is basic and incomplete at launch. The game will continue to grow as they add and release more islands maps quests items along with unknowns things that would be speculation to guess about. Whether it is new modes or new factions or new boats and mechanics. All we know for sure is more is coming.

    Could what I just said be the reason people defend this game when you say it has failed a week or two in.

    If you are clueless enough to believe that money is what makes people defend the current scenario you are a lost soul bud. Wish you the best if you need money just ask.

  • Captn Crushem
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    @hampus0013 The sad truth is it is popular to hate on this game as a reviewer right now. Giving this game a good review as a major streamer/reviewer would be going against the grain and hurt your reputation.

    @AbysswalkerPTS The game didn't fail!? It's launch went better then most MMOs and the communication from RARE has be excellent! I still vouch for this game and play most nights solo and with a full crew depending.

  • Devilz11neo
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    Little funfact....u see so much complaining about the game but the playerbase is still growing^^
    we have over 2 million players right now
    i have so much fun with this game and i also will have fun with this game in a few months

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/de/news/sea-of-thieves-thank-you

  • Captn Crushem
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    @hampus0013 Then don't play it anymore and stop trying to be popular. :P

  • Le Joli Rouge
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    @abysswalkerpts said...

    Why SOT has failed as a game

    The problem is that the game has too little content for the extreme price

    Thanks Sherlock.

    Hey everyone, stop searching, someone found out.

  • Captn Crushem
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    @hampus0013 Nah you just created another thread on the same topic with a different title to get people to discuss it on the one you created. I was only picking anyway, did you happen to see the face with the tongue? looked like this :P

  • Captn Crushem
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    @hampus0013 My mistake replied to two people in one comment

  • Vaca Hombre
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    @hampus0013

    Something else I've heard most reviewers say is that the game looks amazing and has a strong base. Most enjoy the mechanics, just not enough to do or motivation to do it.

    Which I think most of us agree with. We all want the game to improve and I get the frustration. But maybe we could make more helpful, constructive threads than "SoT is a failed game"?

  • Look Behind You
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    If Youtube's Miffed Jim or Unhappy John or whoever said 'setting yourself on fire is a great new hobby, trust me...get in on it before all your friends!' I dread to think what the news headlines would look like the next day!

    Words from a random stranger in an online video seem to negate any free thought, opinions or common sense (which isn't so common and seems more like a superpower these days).

  • Vaca Hombre
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    @hampus0013

    Certainly, keep Rare on it's toes. But I think they'll take us more seriously if we come across as reasonable and intelligent rather than an angry mob.

  • ScurvyRodg
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    I like the game, I just don't have the time to play it several hours everyday. At my pace it will take 6 months to be able to change my sails. Who at Rare thought this economy made sense? 3k in gold for a pair of boots? Why were these skeletons protecting chests that only hold enough coin to buy the soles on those boots?

    It's all nonsense.

  • BrutalPandaX
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    @torrcha you gotta get over yourself actually. if the guy has been vouching for it and had his friends try the game and it let them all down then that's something that needs to be listened to. I've been vouching for months now and I'm over this game. It's got an immense amount of random bugs that occur, and the worst is when they happen during crucial PvP moments. No way, I repeat, no way is Rare fixing all of them with MS now breathing down their necks to add content. I simply can't play a game knowing that I have a very high chance of running into a game breaking bug every few hours especially when it can take hours to get anything done.

  • KnifeLife
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    @brutalpandax Dont argue with idiots my friend, they will just drag you down to there level and beat you with experience. ;)

  • iBMayhem
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    @abysswalkerpts I haven't done a single quest in 3-4 days. I'm at 35, 35, 31...

  • Feuerkrahe
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    @hampus0013 said in Why SOT has failed as a game.:

    For some odd reason they chose not to talk about it in their dev update ;///
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D01S8wx0cHg

    Somewhere around 10:30 to 10:40 they mention player suggestions and that soon they'll make a video about that stuff. "So as Joe said, we are listening, like I said, we are seven days in, so we're still very much absorbing that and we'll try to get back in front of you guys in a video and talk about that stuff." (11:04) When he says "stuff" he's referencing non-bug player issues and sentiments.

  • Nytbane
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    Game had a rough launch, but i will definately be getting my moneys worth out of this game. Im having a blast in it. I figure if I can get a minimum of $1/hr worth of gameplay ive gotten my moneys worth. Pretty sure I will be far exceeding that.

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