lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...

  • Lets be real ...

    In sea of thieves its uber easy to avoid to fight other players if you have a minimum of awareness and ship sailing skills you can see ships miles away , you can outrun them and out manoeuvre them . you can avoid combat at all time if you wish to do so ... the only situation where you can be forced into PVP is into the forts Skull clouds events and without the players threats it would be overwhelmingly exploited for loots by PVE only players and the value of these events would become useless and totally stupid

    Also if there was PVE only servers , peoples would griefs others and wait to steal the loots from those who did the events withouts been any possibility of been killed or sinked , it would be a total nightmare ... peoples would be able to get into other players ships and steel loots and you wouldnt be able to do anything agains it ... this is a receipe for griefing festival ...

    This game is design as is so enjoy it as is .. and ask for more contents more events , more Ai chalenge and more PVP events as well so you can have a different and fun experience ... regardless if you manage to secure a loot or not

    Lets be PVE/PVP players who enjoy boths

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  • I am in the game because there IS a mix of PVP/PVE and I am really enjoying the thrill this game gives =)

  • uh no. if it was easy enough to avoid pvp conflicts, then people wouldn't be complaining about it so much.

    people would steal loot if there was a pve sever? no, not if there was some system in place that once loot was touched then it would be tagged to that person/crew and come invisible/un-interactible to anyone else. simple. fixed

    just cuz you disagree with pve doesn't mean you should try and force your opinions on others like it was gospel

  • Normally I am not one for PVP, but from what I have experienced it is quite fun when you run into other players. We tried to sneak up on a ship last night thinking we could take them by surprise and win. Nope. We got blown up, and then tried to board them while our ship was sinking. Was a blast.

  • I spend half my time solo in a sloop due to having lots of free time. I totally agree that a lot of solo players want to be able to grind without risk. That would be terribly unfair for the rest of us.

    A two man crew in a sloop is very different from a three to four man crew in a galleon and therefore require different approaches to how you play the game. A one man sloop requires a different approach again, and is a lot harder. The game makes no apologies for this as it is a party orientated game.

    It follows that a lot of 'suggestions' for the game come from solo players who want a leg-up without realising the consequences across the rest of the game. Therefore, any requests and suggestions that focus on solo play are likely to be of least importance to the developers.

    It's a mentality carried over from the WoW era. Up until that point, MMO's were party based and merciless towards solo players whereas WoW was relatively relaxed for the solo player. Nowadays, MMO's tend to be normalised towards solo play, but with group content in the form of dungeons, global events and of course grinding raids. In fact, a lot of the time, the story-line aspect of MMO's is dropped by some players when they discover that arena type PvP offers faster progression to the end game.

  • Thank god these forum pages aren't spelling bees. I never seen so many misused words in my life, not too mention spelling.

    Eg: They're putting their chests over there.

    you're welcome. lol

    Call me a n**i but it really does say a lot when someone can't spell or use words properly when they're clearly over the age of ten. Just saying

  • There is no debate. The majority of players aren’t interested in pvp. Far Cry 5 just dropped, this game is now on the back burner until I read something about some positive change for the majority. Gamers play many games and and the hottest new thing is only a f**t in the wind. Good day.

  • This game wouldn't be as fun if it had an option for PvE only, I have had plenty of voyages where I havnt been attacked or harresed by the players.

    Hell if there was no PvP using the crows nest would be useless, in most crews I have been a part of looking out for other ships has been an intergal part of the game, report where they are, what direction they are going are they a threat makes the game interesting and adds suspense

    In my experience 9 times out of ten you don't get attacked unless your taking a stronghold cause that's just a massive cluster F most of the time. Work for your rewards just as the rest of us do.

    Go play assassins creed unity if you want PvE. Or get good.

  • Yes, because EVERYONE thinks exactly the same.

    For me, I would only want them as an option should they (hopefully) add in AI Ships of varying natures (Such as skeleton, navy, and AI pirate). Perhaps those servers could have the AI cranked up higher in terms of difficulty to counterbalance the lack of enemy players, in addition to possible lower payouts.

    More so, enjoyment is subjective in nature to whom it may concern. What I enjoy might not be what others enjoy.

  • @moogle-mogg So you want piracy out of a pirate game.

    huhuh.

    That's like buying a pepperoni pizza, but asking to leave the pepperoni out.

  • @moogle-mogg said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    uh no. if it was easy enough to avoid pvp conflicts, then people wouldn't be complaining about it so much.

    people would steal loot if there was a pve sever? no, not if there was some system in place that once loot was touched then it would be tagged to that person/crew and come invisible/un-interactible to anyone else. simple. fixed

    just cuz you disagree with pve doesn't mean you should try and force your opinions on others like it was gospel

    just cuz you disagree with pvp doesn't mean you should try and force your opinions on others like it was gospel.

  • @stew360 *complete

  • Pretty hard swing and a miss. People just don't want the toxic PvP crowd running over their game experience and making them feel as if they wasted time with their play session.

    And I think most of us want more compelling and challenging PvE content in lieu of PvP becoming more of an optional factor.

  • @sonofbruuf that is quite simply the most stupid analogy iv ever heard.

    if the game was marketed as only a pvp pirate game, then sure.

    but it wasn't

    let me use your stupid analogy against you here.... god this is going to suck...ehhem

    sea of thieves is a pizze with the works, everything
    pvp is the peppers on it, but the pizza also has cheese, sausage,steak,ham,chicken,tomatoe sauce, bacon, etc

    1/10 of those items on that pizza is the compelte minority, and the pizza was advertised also including other ingrediants to enjoy aswell, i bought a pizza with the works, not just a pepper pizza.

    uuuuuuuhhhhhh that was so hard to do i feel my brain just exploding for succumbing to too much retardation. arrrrrrrr

  • @doctor-n****e said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    I spend half my time solo in a sloop due to having lots of free time. I totally agree that a lot of solo players want to be able to grind without risk. That would be terribly unfair for the rest of us.

    A two man crew in a sloop is very different from a three to four man crew in a galleon and therefore require different approaches to how you play the game. A one man sloop requires a different approach again, and is a lot harder. The game makes no apologies for this as it is a party orientated game.

    I love how this guy in his first sentence condemns solo players who want a private server as that would be unfair, then immediately applauds the game for being unapologetically unfair to solo players.

  • 1 Outpost on the map that is protected by other Pirat NPC, to use it you have to pay some gold. That would fix it in a way that doesnt destroys the game.

  • Also might as well retort with this:

    Let's be real, those who are against PvE servers only want easy kills and treasure from those who aren't good at PvP. :)

  • @BlazingSchlag
    If you haven't noticed yet, games are played all over the world. People from all over the world are learning English as their second language at school. The one language that is used to communicate all over the internet is English as well. So there's a really good chance, I guess it's above 50%, that the comments you are reading has not been written by a native speaker. You should always keep that in mind.

    I think it is just not true, that ones spelling or use of words is telling the age of that person or if he is qualified to give feedback on a topic based on his or her experience with the game or not.

    In my opinion your comment is really rude.

  • @moogle-mogg said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    @sonofbruuf that is quite simply the most stupid analogy iv ever heard.

    if the game was marketed as only a pvp pirate game, then sure.

    but it wasn't

    let me use your stupid analogy against you here.... god this is going to suck...ehhem

    sea of thieves is a pizze with the works, everything
    pvp is the peppers on it, but the pizza also has cheese, sausage,steak,ham,chicken,tomatoe sauce, bacon, etc

    1/10 of those items on that pizza is the compelte minority, and the pizza was advertised also including other ingrediants to enjoy aswell, i bought a pizza with the works, not just a pepper pizza.

    uuuuuuuhhhhhh that was so hard to do i feel my brain just exploding for succumbing to too much retardation. arrrrrrrr

    Ok. As you said, if you don't put the pepper, it's a total different game because you change the recipe of it. IMO the PVP is in the core gameplay because it is a multiplayer game when you have a choice or not to be a good or an evil pirate, the PVE will just split the community.

  • Let them have their pve servers...with one caveat, once you choose to play on a PVE server you can never play on a pvp server with that character. In order to play on pvp you would have to delete the character and start over. NEVER allow a PVE player to join a PvP server and vise versa.

  • @volksturm why? theres no levels or anything at all in them

    the only thing tied to any player is a cosmetic skin

    your going to have a cry if a pve player went into a pvp server just because of what outfit he is wearing?

    ..the F?

  • @shade71 said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    There is no debate. The majority of players aren’t interested in pvp.

    Do you have some stats for this, or are you just assuming its a majority cause its what you want?

  • Forts will not work in PVE only server's they would have to be disabled. imagine that all the pve players going to fort just killing the waves and the one who gets the key just get a board his or her ship and sails off leaving everyone with no loot. it wouldnt work at all.

  • @moogle-mogg said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    uh no. if it was easy enough to avoid pvp conflicts, then people wouldn't be complaining about it so much.

    people would steal loot if there was a pve sever? no, not if there was some system in place that once loot was touched then it would be tagged to that person/crew and come invisible/un-interactible to anyone else. simple. fixed

    just cuz you disagree with pve doesn't mean you should try and force your opinions on others like it was gospel

    OMG ... if you have a binocular and your not half braindead , you have all the chance to avoid any encounter if you wish to you can see peoples and boats at miles aways , the only time where you are forced into potential PVP is in the Fort aka raids battles and if there was not any PVP in these , then peoples would grief others by comming into the events at the last momment and then steal the loots of those who did the events without having them to get any chance to kill them since player fire would be turn off ... also this would lead to player invading other players ship stealing chest , skulls etc.. without any possibility to be stopped ...

    You realise that this game dosnt work on individuals loots , its In game loots that anyones can grap and get around ... you realise that if you want a PVE game your in the wrong game , if you want a PVP game your in the wrong game if you want a Pirates PVE/PVP games your at home in Sea of thieves , the game design is base on this and its great the way it is

    Its very sad to see the little butthurts who cant accept they have been killed or looted by others players into a PIRATE BASED GAME ....

  • @stew360 lol. You don't know what pve server is. You can't meet other crews in pve server. Its only you and your crew in Whole big map. Thats pve for you.
    p.s. I am a pvp main player. I don't usually buy games which does not have pvp except some great games with good mechanics and story.

  • i don't understand the people here in the forums, your hypocrites and needy and self centered.

    you want everyone to be forced into Pvp just because it suits you
    discussing the idea of pve and pvp server you still say no, even tho you would still have your pvp server...so whats the problem?
    you also hate us guys who want PvE server, but then you all go and have a cry because we will all be leaving you and we wil be gone

    so w*f is it, make up your g*****n minds, your all so over the place and so incoherent, no one arguing over pvp is making a valid argument here

    lay down some damn facts, look at the forum, the only guys providing actual idea and tangable thoughts on what would blend in well to the game so it doesn't affect ether player type are the pve guys

    what about you pvp guys? wheres your input? hmm? nothing. nothing but rage cuz of reason "they don't like what i like"

  • @shade71 said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    There is no debate. The majority of players aren’t interested in pvp. Far Cry 5 just dropped, this game is now on the back burner until I read something about some positive change for the majority. Gamers play many games and and the hottest new thing is only a f**t in the wind. Good day.

    Just because you want a thing does not mean the majority of players agree with you. Just sayin'. Throwing that majority stance around is just an attempt to paint a false pejorative.

    I have been playing the game with randoms all week and I have yet to run into any crew that was not at least interested in PVP when we saw another ship. Ive played with at least 50 groups or randoms. Surely someone from this majority would have spoken up!

    Have fun with Far Cry. Its on my buy list for next month. Was gonna get it this month but XBOX started that spring sale and I got a couple of gems cheap and that cut into my Far Cry budget. But I am looking forward to it as well.

    Good Day.

  • @a-roflmonster said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    This game wouldn't be as fun if it had an option for PvE only, I have had plenty of voyages where I havnt been attacked or harresed by the players.

    Hell if there was no PvP using the crows nest would be useless, in most crews I have been a part of looking out for other ships has been an intergal part of the game, report where they are, what direction they are going are they a threat makes the game interesting and adds suspense

    In my experience 9 times out of ten you don't get attacked unless your taking a stronghold cause that's just a massive cluster F most of the time. Work for your rewards just as the rest of us do.

    Go play assassins creed unity if you want PvE. Or get good.

    Forts would be less of a Cluster "F" if they (developers) put a stop to server hopping to farm forts!

  • @sorenthaz said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    Also might as well retort with this:

    Let's be real, those who are against PvE servers only want easy kills and treasure from those who aren't good at PvP. :)

    Not wanting to split the player base and create constant balance and whining issues is more it than this ... there is trash peoples playing pvp on a constant basis go play any popular PVP games , fortnite , counter strike , call of duty , ironsight , Player unknow battleground , planetside 2 , destiny etc.. ... 80% + of the playerbase are pretty bad or below average and get farmed by any decents players and yet is the decents players only play to kill noobs ?

    No they dont they play and face whoever they face , you cant ever know in sea of thieves or any other multiplayer match on who you will be fighting , good or bad it will be a suprise .. and it dont matter , a team of 4 trash player can outplay and outloot a single " super good player " while indeed 4 good player agains 4 bad players will end up badly for the bad players but so as " fortnite " or any other games ...

    Also there could be 3 or 4 ways fight into sea of thieves and not always the best twitch shooter win ... sometime its the smarter players who come up with the best plan , or the best team worker at managing sails orientention , repairs , situational awareness etc.. So yeah i think your full of it ... if you ask me

    DO YOU THINK GOOD PVP PLAYERS ARE SOME SORT OF PSYCHIC THAT KNOW BEFORE HAND WHAT IS THE PVP SKILLS OF THEIR ADVERSARY IN ADVANCE ? NO THEY DONT STOP THINKING GOOD PLAYERS ARE LIKE A MAGNET TO YOU

  • @touchdown1504 Forts are always going to be like that regardless of server hoping of not as soon as that skull lights up every galleon in the server heads there, not to mention the random sloop filled with gunpowder. There aren'tany solutions unless the devs want to run more than one active fort at a time

  • @moogle-mogg yes that is the point of this game. W*F dude

  • @stew360 said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    Lets be real ...

    In sea of thieves its uber easy to avoid to fight other players if you have a minimum of awareness and ship sailing skills you can see ships miles away , you can outrun them and out manoeuvre them . you can avoid combat at all time if you wish to do so ... the only situation where you can be forced into PVP is into the forts Skull clouds events and without the players threats it would be overwhelmingly exploited for loots by PVE only players and the value of these events would become useless and totally stupid

    Also if there was PVE only servers , peoples would griefs others and wait to steal the loots from those who did the events withouts been any possibility of been killed or sinked , it would be a total nightmare ... peoples would be able to get into other players ships and steel loots and you wouldnt be able to do anything agains it ... this is a receipe for griefing festival ...

    This game is design as is so enjoy it as is .. and ask for more contents more events , more Ai chalenge and more PVP events as well so you can have a different and fun experience ... regardless if you manage to secure a loot or not

    Lets be PVE/PVP players who enjoy boths

    Um, obviously OP doesn't have kids. So what OP is really saying: it's okay for a 17 y/o to hunt down and harass 13 y/o kids and take advantage of the age difference. This games PVE/PVP needs to change. Some families play this game with their kids and have zero desire of leveling up because it's about the experience with their family.

    Face the facts OP, families play together because of the experience not "to get free loot".

    Wake up OP. Rare needs to implement a soft PVE mode for families with much younger children to enjoy the experience of sailing around on a pirate ship with their parents, slashing down skeletons and collecting farm animals in cages. There's nothing soft or weak about catering to both sides in a respectable fashion.

    In closing, my household includes a 5 and 6 year. We as parents finally found a game every can enjoy. Until .... 17 y/o Bootleg Bandit8 starts harassing the kids, throwing their caged farm animals overboard, and sitting below deck to spawn kill them. How childish, or empty can one be to pick on a 5 and 6 year kid. Rare needs step-up make this right because I can assure, if nothing happens, incidents like this have potential to further on social media.

    OP - You'll understand one of these days when your child is old enough. Until then, try to think about the softer side of life where certain people don't really care about loot, sea reputation, amount of skins; all they care about is seeing their kids happy.

  • @a-roflmonster Multiple active forts would likely be the best case scenario. But, the server hopping (IMO) is the biggest problem with the forts right now. Folks are aggressively chasing them because it is the best way to rank up. I believe curtailing the hopping would be a big help.

  • @amonrai what is?

    there is no point in this game, as advertised by the devs themselves, its an open sandbox world for the players to freely explore and do what ever they want in

    there is no YOU MUST PVP OTHER PLAYERS

  • @flowerofcarnage said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    @doctor-n****e said in lets be real those who ask for PVE servers only want Free loots and Free forts event so it can be easy as hell to compleate ...:

    I spend half my time solo in a sloop due to having lots of free time. I totally agree that a lot of solo players want to be able to grind without risk. That would be terribly unfair for the rest of us.

    A two man crew in a sloop is very different from a three to four man crew in a galleon and therefore require different approaches to how you play the game. A one man sloop requires a different approach again, and is a lot harder. The game makes no apologies for this as it is a party orientated game.

    I love how this guy in his first sentence condemns solo players who want a private server as that would be unfair, then immediately applauds the game for being unapologetically unfair to solo players.

    There's no hypocrisy in my statement, just plain fact.

    1. The game is primarily a group co-op experience in a PvP environment.

    2. Whilst the game can be played solo, it's neither easy nor recommended. As such, this is pointed out to you when selecting to sail solo.

    3. A lot of solo players want PvE only servers. However, as there is no threat from other players, it will be far easier and quicker to grind gold and reputation. This is unfair on other players in the intended PvP environment, because they run the risk of losing gold/rep to other players. Basically, you don't get the gold/rep without the risk.

    4. I never said the game was unfair to solo players, I only pointed out that the game is designed primarily for groups of players and whilst solo is possible, it's not recommended as it's a lot harder.

    5. It's the players choice as to whether they want to tackle the game solo, or play as a group.

    6. I don't agree with solo players who want a PvE only server, however I do understand why they want that environment. Then I explain why a PvE only environment doesn't align itself with the fundamental gameplay philosophy of SoT.

    Have I sufficiently explained my viewpoint enough for you to understand what I'm saying?

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