They could do with upping it, but only slightly. I met enough players to satiate my PvP needs while also having it calm enough that I could do some voyages and enjoy the calm sea, it was incredibly relaxing.
Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players
I dont know how its a problem, i see ships everywhere annytime i have a session. but then again every crew i sail with are focusing a bit moore on the voyages so we are sailing only from island to island and we are not actively looking for ships because we dont care to much about them until they are a threat and that is the same way i play solo. but if there is a galleon or sloop nearby we sometimes choose to chase it. 16 players in one session os enugh.
But if the majority think it is a problem if you're not seeing a ship everytime you turn your head, then who am i to say that population should stay like it is :D
3 galleons and 4 sloops, or 2 galleons and 8/4 sloops is pretty damn enugh if you ask me! More than that might just be alittle too much if rare doesnt do a choise on how big the lobby you want to join is going to be tho.
There is always a sloop or a galleon around, you just didnt noticed it at the time you looked. :D@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 Theyre talking about adding to the full game's map size.
Here one of the devs says the map will get larger (at about 1:04) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_NmS0D9Nc a
Nope, your video is from february 2017, they talk about the different regions they now have alreay implemented since.
In mine, they said in a nutshell that they are satisfied with the actual map size "since the last progression test" (that's the december closed beta), seeing how outposts are even more important as it is.
Im not convinced. if the map is in its final form its awfully small. but I am confident it will increase.
Protip : When someone answers a yes or no question by a yes, the answer is yes, if he answers no, it's a no, if he answers neither yes nor no, it's no.
I'm really confident there is a lot more content we can expect at launch, but i'm also really confident the map won't be bigger. Mark my words.You realise it's already been confirmed by the devs that the map is 3x bigger with three different regions right?
@hotel-actual The map already has 3 different and distinct regions and these were present in the Beta. I'm not sure where the information about 3x bigger is coming from though, is that an official source?
@hotel-actual 3x bigger? Sounds great to me, and with the Kraken patrolling the seas, nowhere will be safe.
Personally, I don't care what the final number is. However, I am very frustrated when developers choose to withhold or be intentionally vague regarding information the consumer is trying to ascertain. It gives me a 'Hello Games vibe'....that's not a compliment. Regardless of whether it's dynamic or fixed....or even if they're still debating what the final player count will be, the consumer wants to know roughly what the max player count is. I'm sure Rare has narrowed that number down significantly.
I don't see the community in SoTs being like that of a WoW server.
Each servers population is generated per session. You will rarely run into the same pirates outside the one's you join a server together with (ie. 4 man crew).
@hotel-actual said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 Theyre talking about adding to the full game's map size.
Here one of the devs says the map will get larger (at about 1:04) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_NmS0D9Nc a
Nope, your video is from february 2017, they talk about the different regions they now have alreay implemented since.
In mine, they said in a nutshell that they are satisfied with the actual map size "since the last progression test" (that's the december closed beta), seeing how outposts are even more important as it is.
Im not convinced. if the map is in its final form its awfully small. but I am confident it will increase.
Protip : When someone answers a yes or no question by a yes, the answer is yes, if he answers no, it's a no, if he answers neither yes nor no, it's no.
I'm really confident there is a lot more content we can expect at launch, but i'm also really confident the map won't be bigger. Mark my words.You realise it's already been confirmed by the devs that the map is 3x bigger with three different regions right?
You should give a source when making a statement allegedly made by someone else, otherwise, it has as much value as f*****g in a bath.
Look again at the video i posted, it’s very recent and they are clearly beating around the bush. They are basically saying « beta showed us the map is fine as it is ».
@katttruewalker said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@hotel-actual The map already has 3 different and distinct regions and these were present in the Beta. I'm not sure where the information about 3x bigger is coming from though, is that an official source?
@katttruewalker This scare me. The datamine revealed that there were three destinctly different areas. Blue Sea of Plenty, Sea of the Damned (no other references?) The Wilds, Wide Sea of Plunder.
So you mean to tell me that there is a possibility that the beta was the full map of the main game? When has a beta ever revealed the entire map where all the experiences would be taking place outside of early access?
Kate is correct those 3 areas are different biomes within the current map. With the 4th being where the 'Ferry of the Damn' sails.
I strongly believe the current beta map size will be the final map size. Maybe plus or minus a few islands.
I'm saying that there are 3 distinct areas as described in one of the early videos, we don't have any news on the eventual size of the map as far as I am aware.
The datamine and discussion of any of the contents are against the Xbox ToS and should not be mentioned here.
But the video describing the regions is here -
@katttruewalker I have seen that video and they were talking about foliage half burnt or something. Was there foliage in that beta half burnt?
Never mind I have to go combing through videos to find that mention.
I've eyeballed server population in over a year of alpha testing, and all of my crew that also has several hundred hours of gametime corroborated with me. We all have a very strong consensus on player count for the beta that we are 99% sure of. (I personally would put tons of money on it, I'm more than 100% sure).
First of all, the beta is server based, there is NOT any "instancing." The player count is irrelevant to the game; it only cares about ship count. The server capacity is exactly the same as the number of outposts. In the beta, we had 6 outposts, which means there couldn't be more than 6 ships (there could be less, obviously). This could be 6 galleons, 6 sloops, or any combination. I am positive of this number because in my tons of time playing this game, I have often found myself forming fleets with other players. When there were 4 outposts in the game, no one has ever seen 5 or more ships in one spot. There have, however, been 4 ships all sailing together, looping the map to make sure there is no one else on the server. And I have even tested this by getting every player on the server into party chat at times, and scattering us on the map to make sure we could see if there was another ship somewhere. It was always 4 ships when the outpost count was at 4. We briefly had 5 outposts with the addition of Spire, and during that time there were in fact 5 ships in the game. And finally, with 6, I can confirm that I have seen 6 ships all on the horizon at once. It's a very clear and obvious trend.
All that said, we still don't know how many outposts will be in the release, nor do we know if ship numbers will still be tethered to outposts later on. The map size still has the potential of getting larger as well without necessarily adding more biomes. You can think of it like a balloon with dots on it, representing each island. Those dots will get further away from each other if the balloon expands.
Maybe I'm the outlier, but I felt the beta was a pretty good balance. I had a few sessions where I would regularly see or be seen by other ships and others where I may not see one at all or only at a distance. It made each voyage feel different.
I definitely would be against a battle royale feel to the game. There should not be sails on every point of the compass as you travel from place to place.
There does seem to be a big range of opinion on this, though. Maybe the easiest solution is to ask Rare to put in a density selector when you select your ship size. A simple slider with Low (just a few other ships around), Medium (normal mix), and High (good lord where did all these pirates come from?!?!?!). That way everyone could select an environment that suits them and you could vary sessions too.
Oh I thought we only had the one region in the beta the tropical one, if the map is completely in the beta that's a bit sad :-(
@gamaguado said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the last I heard on the subject, sea of thieves servers only hold about 16 players. This is a very disappointing number and frankly it reflects the 3 seperate play sessions I've had where I've seen 0 players. I thought and wanted to believe it was bugged but I guess that is just not the case.
I have been trying to sell my wow/destiny/overwatch crew on this game since I saw the first trailer several years ago. They seem to be pretty much on board but skeptical about whether the game can having a lasting community. (as is just about everyone else) The problem is that I have to tell them that servers ONLY hold 16 people when their concern is about community. I dont want to because this game will be shot down even harder and I actually think we can have a lot of fun with this. Please tell me I'm wrong.
Ahh just don't tell them :D They'll get on and quickly fall in love. I guess that..wait for the pun... ship has sailed.... though.
I played mostly solo during the closed beta. At first it was a ghost town with no ships anywhere and I could go on treasure hunts and collect at peace. It was fun but started to get stale. Sail here, read map, dig a bunch of holes, return chest for booty.
On the 3rd day I started to see ships and my heart raced as I tried to escape with my little ship and 6 chests on board. A lot of fun ensued with trying to balance treasure hunting and trying to get back to the outpost in 1 piece. It came to the point where trying to PvE was nearly impossible, because every time I got a chest I would get chased down by a full crew and just had no chance.
So I can see both sides of the coin here. Trying to balance out this game will be tough and if you have too many ships in one game they will just circle the limited outposts and will destroy any PvE experience.
I kind of like it how it is. Maybe add one or two more ships. I like that you can go looking for trouble if you want it, but it's the rare sightings in the distance when you're going about your business that really add tension to the game, especially solo. Too many boats and those moments won't exist. It needs to balance with the PvE aspects of the game, too.
@mr-guffman said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
I kind of like it how it is. Maybe add one or two more ships. I like that you can go looking for trouble if you want it, but it's the rare sightings in the distance when you're going about your business that really add tension to the game, especially solo. Too many boats and those moments won't exist.
Agreed. If there's always a ship on the horizon, the excitement that comes from spotting one is lost. The relaxation and fun of sailing and exploring gets regularly interrupted by the tension and excitement of opposing ships. I would hate to see either side of that formula removed.
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 Theyre talking about adding to the full game's map size.
Here one of the devs says the map will get larger (at about 1:04) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_NmS0D9Nc a
Nope, your video is from february 2017, they talk about the different regions they now have alreay implemented since.
In mine, they said in a nutshell that they are satisfied with the actual map size "since the last progression test" (that's the december closed beta), seeing how outposts are even more important as it is.
Im not convinced. if the map is in its final form its awfully small. but I am confident it will increase.
Protip : When someone answers a yes or no question by a yes, the answer is yes, if he answers no, it's a no, if he answers neither yes nor no, it's no.
I'm really confident there is a lot more content we can expect at launch, but i'm also really confident the map won't be bigger. Mark my words.consider them marked. When the release comes, we shall see whos correct.
Well, apparently, i was correct, map size will stay the same, at least for launch :
"I'm sure beyond launch we're going to expand the size of the map, as we grow. We'll look at increasing ship numbers per world."Source : https://www.windowscentral.com/the-sea-of-thieves-vision-interview
@aenima123
They’ve already said in a developer video that the map gets bigger, considerably bigger. So your talking nonsense really!@damandador said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123
They’ve already said in a developer video that the map gets bigger, considerably bigger. So your talking nonsense really!Did you read the article ?
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 Theyre talking about adding to the full game's map size.
Here one of the devs says the map will get larger (at about 1:04) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_NmS0D9Nc a
Nope, your video is from february 2017, they talk about the different regions they now have alreay implemented since.
In mine, they said in a nutshell that they are satisfied with the actual map size "since the last progression test" (that's the december closed beta), seeing how outposts are even more important as it is.
Im not convinced. if the map is in its final form its awfully small. but I am confident it will increase.
Protip : When someone answers a yes or no question by a yes, the answer is yes, if he answers no, it's a no, if he answers neither yes nor no, it's no.
I'm really confident there is a lot more content we can expect at launch, but i'm also really confident the map won't be bigger. Mark my words.consider them marked. When the release comes, we shall see whos correct.
Well, apparently, i was correct, map size will stay the same, at least for launch :
"I'm sure beyond launch we're going to expand the size of the map, as we grow. We'll look at increasing ship numbers per world."Source : https://www.windowscentral.com/the-sea-of-thieves-vision-interview
Nope. They will grow “from the full maps size”, not the beta size. There have been many islands teased before that we haven’t seen in the actual map
But let’s wait till release to be sure
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@dark-shadow9056 said in Just a friendly reminder that servers ONLY hold 4 ships / 16 players:
@aenima123 Theyre talking about adding to the full game's map size.
Here one of the devs says the map will get larger (at about 1:04) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_NmS0D9Nc a
Nope, your video is from february 2017, they talk about the different regions they now have alreay implemented since.
In mine, they said in a nutshell that they are satisfied with the actual map size "since the last progression test" (that's the december closed beta), seeing how outposts are even more important as it is.
Im not convinced. if the map is in its final form its awfully small. but I am confident it will increase.
Protip : When someone answers a yes or no question by a yes, the answer is yes, if he answers no, it's a no, if he answers neither yes nor no, it's no.
I'm really confident there is a lot more content we can expect at launch, but i'm also really confident the map won't be bigger. Mark my words.consider them marked. When the release comes, we shall see whos correct.
Well, apparently, i was correct, map size will stay the same, at least for launch :
"I'm sure beyond launch we're going to expand the size of the map, as we grow. We'll look at increasing ship numbers per world."Source : https://www.windowscentral.com/the-sea-of-thieves-vision-interview
Nope. They will grow “from the full maps size”, not the beta size. There have been many islands teased before that we haven’t seen in the actual map
But let’s wait till release to be sure
I've got almost no doubts the number of islands or their placement may change a little from what we saw in the closed beta, but the map size ? At launch a least, it's pretty clear it won't be bigger. After what they said in the latest video, and what they said in this article, it would require to be pretty stubborn to think otherwise.
But yeah, let's wait until release.
Sea of Thieves Technical Alpha: Update 0.1.1 - Taming New Seas
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