Community is awful

  • @boneheart1237 said in Community is awful:

    @europa4033 said in Community is awful:

    In the future? Simply record and report. It's really not difficult to do, I promise. It's a lot better than this convoluted system of voting "good" to those who sunk you (like anyone would do that in the first place 😂).

    Players would probably be more likely to abuse this system and vote “bad” to players that sink them. Having a moderation team accomplishes this and prevents abuse of the system.

    Also, if you don’t want to download anything, both Steam and XBox gamebar have clipping options that can be set up in only a few button presses

    ^^^ +1 Exactly what I said. A voting system would punish innocent players (if you sink a ship, you can vote them "bad"), it would be exploited to no end, it would hurt players who sank you fairly (since after voting them "bad", the value of the treasure they took is now reduced), players would see their gold earnings affected (gold is already easy to earn in the first place, except OP's idea hurts the amount you earn), and it just creates a community that downvotes each other into oblivion....all to save OP the trouble of record/report.

    A few button presses are too complicated.

  • @europa4033 sagte in Community is awful:

    @boneheart1237 said in Community is awful:

    @europa4033 said in Community is awful:

    In the future? Simply record and report. It's really not difficult to do, I promise. It's a lot better than this convoluted system of voting "good" to those who sunk you (like anyone would do that in the first place 😂).

    Players would probably be more likely to abuse this system and vote “bad” to players that sink them. Having a moderation team accomplishes this and prevents abuse of the system.

    Also, if you don’t want to download anything, both Steam and XBox gamebar have clipping options that can be set up in only a few button presses

    ^^^ +1 Exactly what I said. A voting system would punish innocent players (if you sink a ship, you can vote them "bad"), it would be exploited to no end, it would hurt players who sank you fairly (since after voting them "bad", the value of the treasure they took is now reduced), players would see their gold earnings affected (gold is already easy to earn in the first place, except OP's idea hurts the amount you earn), and it just creates a community that downvotes each other into oblivion....all to save OP the trouble of record/report.

    A few button presses are too complicated.

    You show again and again that you are incapable or unwilling to read. There is no reduction and people that abise the system are easy to be cit out of the rating ig you understand Statistics.

    And as said before watvh ovrr your own horizon please. Not everyone can and will record. For example consoles. Expecting third party tools to allow people to play your games is plain wrong. And even if someone is banned, it is prooven that ban evasion is a thing that people do.

  • @ren9982 said in Community is awful:

    @europa4033 sagte in Community is awful:

    @boneheart1237 said in Community is awful:

    @europa4033 said in Community is awful:

    In the future? Simply record and report. It's really not difficult to do, I promise. It's a lot better than this convoluted system of voting "good" to those who sunk you (like anyone would do that in the first place 😂).

    Players would probably be more likely to abuse this system and vote “bad” to players that sink them. Having a moderation team accomplishes this and prevents abuse of the system.

    Also, if you don’t want to download anything, both Steam and XBox gamebar have clipping options that can be set up in only a few button presses

    ^^^ +1 Exactly what I said. A voting system would punish innocent players (if you sink a ship, you can vote them "bad"), it would be exploited to no end, it would hurt players who sank you fairly (since after voting them "bad", the value of the treasure they took is now reduced), players would see their gold earnings affected (gold is already easy to earn in the first place, except OP's idea hurts the amount you earn), and it just creates a community that downvotes each other into oblivion....all to save OP the trouble of record/report.

    A few button presses are too complicated.

    You show again and again that you are incapable or unwilling to read. There is no reduction and people that abise the system are easy to be cit out of the rating ig you understand Statistics.

    And as said before watvh ovrr your own horizon please. Not everyone can and will record. For example consoles. Expecting third party tools to allow people to play your games is plain wrong. And even if someone is banned, it is prooven that ban evasion is a thing that people do.

    "If you dont sink then that is a Choice but aside from the vood behavior points you will loose out on Gold from their loot.
    And the rating is easily fixed by letting the player select specific behavior when rating. Like talked nice in chat. And as said if someone consistently only votes bad their vote might be worth less than someone that votes good and bad equaly. That is easy to build something like that into a system."

    I sail over to a ship, to see they've hidden stacked treasure below. I sink them. Because I caught them off-guard, they vote me "bad", so if I sell their loot now, "you will loose out on Gold from their loot."(--quoted from you), making selling their treasure pointless to me then. Even though I "talked nice in chat" and wasn't toxic, I'm still to be punished with reduced gold.

    A newer player has voted "bad" a number of times now, because they keep getting sunk by other players. "And as said if someone consistently only votes bad their vote might be worth less than someone that votes good and bad equally. That is easy to build something like that into a system."

    Is this correct here? Or am I lying and not reading again?

  • excusing it by something that everyone has to deal with is just that an excuse.

    Yes. Just like we have to deal with people double gunning, scooping, talking smack, bantering, calling you trash, throwing loot into water, etc
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    But all these things are dealt with by using what we already got and what we are told.
    Wanting to make it worse for everyone with some fake royalties for fake point system by other players.

  • @europa4033 This system could still go poorly. If you come across a disproportionate amount of bad players, that could shift your rating down even though you are using the system as intended. I can't think of a single way in which a community run rep system would ever be a good and usable idea.

  • We recently had a bug where scuttling in HG, even after getting sunk, did not credit the winner correctly. The loser didn't suffer anything negative, and willingly entered into a competition with the other ship, and some still decided to affect their opponent after a fair match.

    There's no way there should be inter-player ratings of any kind, because it can and will be abused.

  • @potatosord said in Community is awful:

    @europa4033 This system could still go poorly. If you come across a disproportionate amount of bad players, that could shift your rating down even though you are using the system as intended. I can't think of a single way in which a community run rep system would ever be a good and usable idea.

    1 million percent agree. OP is saying that we should award good behavior by a voting system from other players. If you sink their ship, and they vote you "bad", the treasure you stole from them is now reduced in gold value. If a player keeps voting other players "bad", their vote gets diluted. It's a huge convoluted system that won't work here.

  • The pvp in this game is almost always at someone else’s enraged expense. You’ll sink, slam your fist on the desk bouncing the monitor and knick-knacks around, and immediately downvote the crew that sinked you. It wouldn’t be a helpful metric at all.

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