Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.

  • M1KE DA 1KE
    Sailor
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    So I've been thinking about this and discussing it with some friends and I think that Rare should allow players who purchase a ship to use that owned captained ship in Safer Seas. However, I don't think that players should be able to earn ANY of the captaincy rewards or commendations or have any of the progress you make in Safer Seas count towards your captained ship.

    It would be really nice for veteran players to be able to use their captained ship while playing with a friend who's new to the game and teaching them the mechanics of the game and how to play. It would also be nice for the small amount of players who don't play in High Seas to be able to sell all of their loot in one location without having to carry it all to each of the separate companies to sell it (which is why the sovereign were added to the game to begin with).

    Obviously I'm not asking for guilds or guild ships to be able to be used in Safer Seas as that feature makes no sense being in Safer Seas. And I'm not asking for players to be allowed to earn any captaincy rewards or progress whatsoever as all of that should be disabled when using a captained ship in Safer Seas.

    All I'm saying is that players should be allowed to take their captained ship and use it in both High Seas and Safer Seas, but only be able to earn captaincy progress and rewards in High Seas and not Safer Seas. Adding it to Safer Seas would only allow players to sell to the sovereign (for the same amount as selling anywhere else) as well as save owned cosmetics to your ship and be able to restore your ship without having to scuttle it. That's literally all you'd be able to do.

    Either that or Rare should instead add those features to the free ships that you can charter allowing all players new or not to be able to sell their loot to the sovereign and restore their ship to pristine condition without having it be an owned captained ship. (Obviously you wouldn't be able to save cosmetic items to a ship you don't own, but you should at least be able to repair it to pristine condition without it being captained).

    These are my thoughts and opinions and I encourage anyone who reads this post to please share your thoughts and opinions on this down below. Keep it civil as this is merely a discussion about an online video game.

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  • Boeing7876500
    Ship Mate

    this is the issue with the addition of safer seas. the pve people will keep asking for more and more rewards, with all of the risk gone.

  • M1KE DA 1KE
    Sailor
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    @boeing7876500 No one is asking for more rewards here. I'm only suggesting that players be allowed to use their owned captained ships that they earned and payed for in both High Seas & Safer Seas, NO extra rewards. The entire reason why captaincy and the sovereign were added to the game weren't for extra rewards, it was for the quality of life improvement of not having to carry each individual piece of loot to each individual person to sell it. And I already said in my post that I think all extra rewards and commendations that exist for captaincy should not be allowed to be earned in Safer Seas. It would literally only be for the quality of life of not having to spend an extra 20+ minutes selling loot to each individual faction as well as being able to repair your ship to pristine condition so you don't have to scuttle and sink your ship just to make it look like new again.

  • Boeing7876500
    Ship Mate

    @m1ke-da-1ke Theres a post about this same thing every day go read those and the responses. People would rather write a giant wall of text than look in even the first page to see if someone has said the exact same thing. And if they add captained ships, people will then complain about how they can't level up their milestones. PvE people will always want more. You are forgetting that the developers add incentives play in high seas, the actual game, so that people will play it. And in safer seas you dont even need to sell fast cause there is no fear of getting your loot stolen.

  • Mikey1339
    Seafarer

    I believe that if you've earned a ship in the high seas, you should be able to use it in safer waters to do as you please. You've earned that right. At times, one may wish to avoid the toxic PvP community found in the high seas, although not everyone there is unpleasant; some are quite decent. Nevertheless, I understand your perspective.

  • Rare Jumbie
    Commander
    Insider

    The developers very clearly want players to graduate onto High Seas once they're capable of doing so. Anyone can argue that "it's just this one little thing" they want added and that it "hurts nobody" etc. That's totally true and it's entirely possible for them to do what you're asking for -- although it may cost time their time.

    But they just don't want it. They want Captaincy to be that carrot on the stick for you to graduate to High Seas, just like they want players who have a skeleton curse, or ghost curse to have played hundreds of hours of PvP.

    It's entirely arbitrary, and up to them. And quite frankly I agree with it. This game was intended for there to always be risk involved and Safer Seas is really a compromise for families and young children to get a feel for the game.

    You want Captaincy? Time to start risking it on High Seas.

  • Rare Jumbie
    Commander
    Insider

    Just as a side note, I think it’s also why the gold and cosmetics you earn in safer seas transfer to high seas. They want you to be able to take your progress and gold and move forward. You can literally buy your first captained ship in high seas with the gold you earned in the confines of safer seas, without ever meeting another crew!

    It’s honestly the best start they can give.

  • Spoopy9host
    Master
    Insider

    I'm a lifer on High Seas, will never play Safer Seas.

    I'd be 100% okay with people being able to save cosmetics onto their rented ship. No name, no Sovereigns, no milestones, or trinkets. I see no harm with anyone being able to save basic cosmetics.

  • GipperSeaDog
    Master

    @boeing7876500 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    this is the issue with the addition of safer seas. the pve people will keep asking for more and more rewards, with all of the risk gone.

    This "issue applies to both HS and SS, not just SS. I'm really getting weary of folks trying to give the impression that safer seas is a gift to PvE players, that it shouldn't be in the game in the first place, and all PvE'rs do is want more. Well i'm reading a lot of posts about PvP'rs complaining about the same thing in terms of wanting more than what the game now offers.

  • Olde Grim Jack
    Marauder
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    Founder

    I don't play Safer Seas. I've never played Safer Seas. I refuse to play Safer Seas.

    But I still think the restrictions are too much... lol. Like what difference does it make at the end of the day? Let the Safer Seas dudes sail their fancy captained ships.. especially if they spent real money and purchased emporium skins for their beloved ship.

    Y'all should be allowed to enjoy essentially your private PvE server if you want.. and the gold reduction should be 50% not 70%. I'm bored of sinking complaining kids who can't PvP and who don't even want to be on the high seas. I mean that's just my opinion, I know there's plenty of people who enjoy hearing people complain as they get attacked and sunk lol .. I know used to.

    I mean if you sail the high seas you know what you're getting into and deserve whatever happens to you, good or bad. I'm just personally BORED of hearing the same generic complaints from nerds who should have stayed on the Safer Seas.

  • GoldsMen
    Captain
    Insider

    You can find plenty of requests asking for the same thing if you just search it on the forum, and plenty of responses about it in turn.

  • BurnBacon
    Vanguard
    Insider

    Let these people have the Ships.
    But, they will not have any of the Perks allowed. No Sovereigns sell point, no unlocking Ship Milestones,
    Mainly, just allow them to save cosmetics & trinkets.

  • Lethality1
    Vanguard
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    Founder

    @boeing7876500 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    this is the issue with the addition of safer seas. the pve people will keep asking for more and more rewards, with all of the risk gone.

    My friend,

    Allowing captioned ships in Safer Seas has nothing do with risk because you will have to have earned it in High Seas.

  • Lethality1
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    Founder

    @rare-jumbie said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    The developers very clearly want players to graduate onto High Seas once they're capable of doing so. Anyone can argue that "it's just this one little thing" they want added and that it "hurts nobody" etc. That's totally true and it's entirely possible for them to do what you're asking for -- although it may cost time their time.

    But they just don't want it. They want Captaincy to be that carrot on the stick for you to graduate to High Seas, just like they want players who have a skeleton curse, or ghost curse to have played hundreds of hours of PvP.

    It's entirely arbitrary, and up to them. And quite frankly I agree with it. This game was intended for there to always be risk involved and Safer Seas is really a compromise for families and young children to get a feel for the game.

    You want Captaincy? Time to start risking it on High Seas.

    Did you bother to even read what was said, or just decided to knee-jerk into this response?

  • Dragotech123
    Commander
    Insider
    Founder

    I play on Safer Seas constantly and I would like to be able to customize the bed, drapes, table, and rug on my ship along with the crest and see the name of my ship there.
    Keep the milestones, sovereigns, supplies and guilds in High Seas if you want, I simply want to have that the rental ship in Safer seas feel like it is my own.
    You can access the Reapers Lair, and Athena's Fortune hideout, and even perform the PvP curses rituals despite not being able to progress in those factions in Safer Seas, so why not allow the cosmetic part about captaincy be part of Safer Seas?

  • Rare Jumbie
    Commander
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    @lethality1

    OP asked for thoughts and opinions on a feature (or a partial feature)—some form of Captaincy in Safer Seas—and I gave my best explanation for why it's currently omitted from Safer Seas and suggested that they move on to High Seas where the full feature set is, as well as the intended experience.

    Nothing knee-jerk about it.

  • Boeing7876500
    Ship Mate

    @gipperseadog
    Every single day it seems there are multiple different posts about bringing more and more stuff to safer seas. Before safer seas were a thing, the people just wanted a pve server. now they want more. you think they will stop with captained ships? No. they will continue to ask for more.

  • GipperSeaDog
    Master

    @boeing7876500
    Sure, but the same goes for High Seas, I.E. wanting changes to Hourglass, wanting a change to no boarding, ladders, wanting changes to how double barrel pistols and Throwing knives acts/reacts, wanting changes to Number of ships, wanting cannon rowboats to be removed from High Seas, wanting a number of new cosmetics, wanting past loot items to return, curses...The list goes on, and it's not always the PvE players wanting these changes. Sure, some are silly and nobody really knows if it may happen until Rare changes it, but the point it that Safer Seas players are not the only ones that want more than the game currently offers. It seems that only the players asking for changes to Safer Seas gets the "It will never happen, so stop asking you bunch of crybabies" responses. (No reference to your posts Boeing, but i've read some rude comments when someone asks for changes that affect Safer Seas)

  • GipperSeaDog
    Master

    @boeing7876500 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @gipperseadog
    Every single day it seems there are multiple different posts about bringing more and more stuff to safer seas. Before safer seas were a thing, the people just wanted a pve server. now they want more. you think they will stop with captained ships? No. they will continue to ask for more.

    Now i play both High Seas and Safer Seas, depending on what kind of a day I'm having, I browse these forums a lot and some of these suggestions (On both HS and SS) are trivial, but some do have merit. In fact, some Ideas i really hope that the team at Rare will implement in future seasons (or at least consider). I personally have a generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) that sometimes affects my gameplay in a serious way. Not just SOT but others as well. That doesn't stop me from playing SoT though, it's a wonderfully thought out game that tests my abilities and pushes my limits, but sometimes if I'm having a bad day, i know i can relax with my friend on the Safer Seas and still enjoy the game. Would i like to see more improvements to make Safer Seas more like High Seas? sure, but until then, i will still play the game and see what happens in future seasons.

  • Mikey1339
    Seafarer

    One can only hope that developers understand the growing preference for PvE, as players increasingly seek a relaxing experience without the constant threat of being attacked. However, the development of a game heavily depends on the type of developers involved. If they favor PvP, enthusiasts of gunplay, it's unlikely that a PvE-focused game will emerge from Rare, as it all hinges on the developers' preferences.

  • MopWieldingHedgehog
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    Boatswain

    @mikey1339 The game design and intent for Sea of Thieves is a shared world adventure, and it always will be. I think that probably sums it up pretty well.

  • Legatus Crow
    Sailor
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    @mikey1339 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    One can only hope that developers understand the growing preference for PvE, as players increasingly seek a relaxing experience without the constant threat of being attacked. However, the development of a game heavily depends on the type of developers involved. If they favor PvP, enthusiasts of gunplay, it's unlikely that a PvE-focused game will emerge from Rare, as it all hinges on the developers' preferences.

    I'm relatively new to this forum but tbh I prefer shooting to the naval battle loop just because of how long the fights get because theyre just escalation and battles of attrition. It's just not really that much fun for me; even if I win I dont feel rewarded because I don't enjoy it, and I win often enough because I normally like shooters, so it's a problem intrinsic to SoT IMO. I'd rather do the other pirate stuff, like digging up treasure, merchant stuff, and navigating. I sincerely hope they do expand on PvE stuff. Add new types of fishing even, harpoons or nets. I was excited when they added the sirens and stuff too. Sometimes the game's own RNG dunks on you and sets 2 skeleton ships and a megalodon on you at the same time. I'd rather share the experience with my friends. I don't have to spawn camp in PvE, and people won't try to spawn camp me either. The entire safer seas experience just feels better to me than high seas. I have more fun, and that's what video-games are about, nevermind SoT specifically. I dont understand why people are so upset about people having their own experience, whichever is more fun for them.

    Also, as per the OP's topic, it really is just all about convenience. People on this forum just wanna fight anything that makes safer seas even remotely more enticing because they just want to stomp unwilling participants. I was also saying I wish they'd increase the AFK a little bit in the off chance I get pulled away for like 10 minutes or I have to take a particularly long dump, but people will just get angry at you if you don't share in their constipation. I have a job, and sometimes I only get like 2 hrs or less to play a day, so I get it. Even MMOs with server issues like FFXIV have afk timers of like 15 minutes during their worst expac launches. It kind of sucks, man. Sometimes you just have to admit that your vision isn't 100% perfect.

  • TheRealDestian
    Ship Mate

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

  • Captain Coel
    Commander
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    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

  • Legatus Crow
    Sailor
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    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

    this is the feedback and suggestions forum my guy, it's not reddit

  • MercilessOne0
    Seafarer
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    @m1ke-da-1ke I don't think that's a good change.

  • Captain Coel
    Commander
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    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

    this is the feedback and suggestions forum my guy, it's not reddit

    It sure is, I gave them a suggestion.

  • Legatus Crow
    Sailor
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    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

    this is the feedback and suggestions forum my guy, it's not reddit

    It sure is, I gave them a suggestion.

    you're looking for gameplay guides and tips bud

    @mercilessone0 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @m1ke-da-1ke I don't think that's a good change.

    this guy gets it; no one forgot high seas was there, there's just alot of people who don't want to play on high seas because they think it isnt fun. hence feedback hence suggestions. i dont even like encountering people who dont wanna fight on high seas because chasing them is annoying so idk why you guys even try to stick it to everyone. if you asked me how sot was before they added safer seas i'd have just said it was a bad game in its entirety for lack of options and that id rather just play something else. now people have some and they can enjoy the other 90% of the game isn't pvp, which basically amounts to spawn camping afaic

  • Captain Coel
    Commander
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    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

    this is the feedback and suggestions forum my guy, it's not reddit

    It sure is, I gave them a suggestion.

    you're looking for gameplay guides and tips bud

    It wasnt a gameplay tip, it was a sugestion about their request. You clearly dont get it

    @mercilessone0 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @m1ke-da-1ke I don't think that's a good change.

    this guy gets it; no one forgot high seas was there, there's just alot of people who don't want to play on high seas because they think it isnt fun. hence feedback hence suggestions. i dont even like encountering people who dont wanna fight on high seas because chasing them is annoying so idk why you guys even try to stick it to everyone. if you asked me how sot was before they added safer seas i'd have just said it was a bad game in its entirety for lack of options and that id rather just play something else. now people have some and they can enjoy the other 90% of the game that isn't spawn camping

    You must not be on the forums alot. Safer seas feature posts are a near daily occurance because people wanted it to be a pve server and its not.

  • Legatus Crow
    Sailor
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    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @therealdestian said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    I just want to keep the selected cosmetics on my ship between sessions the same way I keep it with my pirate.

    Then play on Higher Seas.

    this is the feedback and suggestions forum my guy, it's not reddit

    It sure is, I gave them a suggestion.

    you're looking for gameplay guides and tips bud

    It wasnt a gameplay tip, it was a sugestion about their request. You clearly dont get it

    @mercilessone0 said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @m1ke-da-1ke I don't think that's a good change.

    this guy gets it; no one forgot high seas was there, there's just alot of people who don't want to play on high seas because they think it isnt fun. hence feedback hence suggestions. i dont even like encountering people who dont wanna fight on high seas because chasing them is annoying so idk why you guys even try to stick it to everyone. if you asked me how sot was before they added safer seas i'd have just said it was a bad game in its entirety for lack of options and that id rather just play something else. now people have some and they can enjoy the other 90% of the game that isn't spawn camping

    You must not be on the forums alot. Safer seas feature posts are a near daily occurance because people wanted it to be a pve server and its not.

    yes because i didn't spend 6 months here after it came out complaining about its existence; i also played in high seas before that and didnt post but as far as word of mouth was concerned i just told people this game sucked and was boring. I found tall tales obnoxious to do with other players around; managed to do them anyway and then found the pvp extremely boring, and repetitive. im not averse to pvp because im bad at it SoT pvp is just dull, and slow. the weapons are hilariously awfully balanced and everything about it is basically awful. if you try to do anything else on high seas people get in your way and two of you end up spinning in circles, constantly repairing your ship in spite of constant cannonfire or spawn camping eachother, or one person who wants to fight chases someone who doesnt literally across the map. it's an acoustic measuring contest and everyone wants to pretend you're a big hard dude for prefering high seas but this game is weak and you dont get paid to play it so people who dont like that aspect of it shouldnt have to participate. lobbies are filled with 5 crews and you dont even notice anything other than maybe a marginally more hostile high seas environment than usual because more people on average who want to fight will actually go there. safer seas literally hasn't changed anything you guys just want people to not have fun.

    feedback and suggestions are directed at rare. not other players. hence the fact that there's a seperate forum for gameplay guides and tips. they dont want your advice because you have none worth giving. theyre saying they want to do something that basically barely affects anything on safer seas

  • Captain Coel
    Commander
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    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    You must not be on the forums alot. Safer seas feature posts are a near daily occurance because people wanted it to be a pve server and its not.

    yes because i didn't spend 6 months here after it came out complaining about it's existence; i also played in high seas before that and didnt post but as far as word of mouth was concerned i just told people this game sucked and was boring. I found tall tales obnoxious to do with other players around; managed to do them anyway and then found the pvp extremely boring, and repetitive. im not averse to pvp because im bad at it SoT pvp is just dull, and slow. the weapons are hilariously awfully balanced and everything about it is basically awful. if you try to do anything else on high seas people get in your way and two of you end up spinning in circles or spawn camping eachother, or one person who wants to fight chases someone who doesnt literally across the map. it's an acoustic measuring contest and everyone wants to pretend you're a big hard dude for prefering high seas but this game is weak and you dont get paid to play it, lobbies are filled with 5 crews and you dont even notice anything other than maybe a marginally more hostile high seas environment than usual because more people on average who want to fight will actually go there. safer seas literally hasn't changed anything you guys just want people to not have fun.

    feedback and suggestions are directed at rare. not other players. hence the fact that there's a seperate forum for gameplay guides and tips. they dont want your advice because you have none worth giving. theyre saying they want to do something that basically barely affects anything on safer seas

    Sounds like Sea of Thieves just isnt the game for you. And its easy to give players the solution to their problem, its a public forum. They might not like, sounds like you dont. Also long fights are fun.

  • Legatus Crow
    Sailor
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    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    You must not be on the forums alot. Safer seas feature posts are a near daily occurance because people wanted it to be a pve server and its not.

    yes because i didn't spend 6 months here after it came out complaining about it's existence; i also played in high seas before that and didnt post but as far as word of mouth was concerned i just told people this game sucked and was boring. I found tall tales obnoxious to do with other players around; managed to do them anyway and then found the pvp extremely boring, and repetitive. im not averse to pvp because im bad at it SoT pvp is just dull, and slow. the weapons are hilariously awfully balanced and everything about it is basically awful. if you try to do anything else on high seas people get in your way and two of you end up spinning in circles or spawn camping eachother, or one person who wants to fight chases someone who doesnt literally across the map. it's an acoustic measuring contest and everyone wants to pretend you're a big hard dude for prefering high seas but this game is weak and you dont get paid to play it, lobbies are filled with 5 crews and you dont even notice anything other than maybe a marginally more hostile high seas environment than usual because more people on average who want to fight will actually go there. safer seas literally hasn't changed anything you guys just want people to not have fun.

    feedback and suggestions are directed at rare. not other players. hence the fact that there's a seperate forum for gameplay guides and tips. they dont want your advice because you have none worth giving. theyre saying they want to do something that basically barely affects anything on safer seas

    Sounds like Sea of Thieves just isnt the game for you. And its easy to give players the solution to their problem, its a public forum. They might not like, sounds like you dont. Also long fights are fun.

    it is now because i dont have to play on high seas maybe you should quit about it
    if you want to be deliberately dense about the context between a suggestion directed at rare and a tip to another player who obviously hasnt forgotten about high seas existence then im done about that line
    also long fights suck, arena pvp with limited resources is more fun if anything because people wont just pussyfoot constantly. it was always bad and it was always a minor facet of the game you just want to pretend is was intrinsic to the game and it wasnt. there are other sandbox mmos out there with way more engaging communities than SoT, killing people is ironically a shallow puddle of content especially when it's this boring. everything else about the game is more fun, guys like you and the ones im talking about make it suck and thats why we are where we are. rockstar/take two clued in, so should rare

  • Captain Coel
    Commander
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    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @captain-coel said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    @legatus-crow said in Allow us to use captained ships in Safer Seas.:

    You must not be on the forums alot. Safer seas feature posts are a near daily occurance because people wanted it to be a pve server and its not.

    yes because i didn't spend 6 months here after it came out complaining about it's existence; i also played in high seas before that and didnt post but as far as word of mouth was concerned i just told people this game sucked and was boring. I found tall tales obnoxious to do with other players around; managed to do them anyway and then found the pvp extremely boring, and repetitive. im not averse to pvp because im bad at it SoT pvp is just dull, and slow. the weapons are hilariously awfully balanced and everything about it is basically awful. if you try to do anything else on high seas people get in your way and two of you end up spinning in circles or spawn camping eachother, or one person who wants to fight chases someone who doesnt literally across the map. it's an acoustic measuring contest and everyone wants to pretend you're a big hard dude for prefering high seas but this game is weak and you dont get paid to play it, lobbies are filled with 5 crews and you dont even notice anything other than maybe a marginally more hostile high seas environment than usual because more people on average who want to fight will actually go there. safer seas literally hasn't changed anything you guys just want people to not have fun.

    feedback and suggestions are directed at rare. not other players. hence the fact that there's a seperate forum for gameplay guides and tips. they dont want your advice because you have none worth giving. theyre saying they want to do something that basically barely affects anything on safer seas

    Sounds like Sea of Thieves just isnt the game for you. And its easy to give players the solution to their problem, its a public forum. They might not like, sounds like you dont. Also long fights are fun.

    it is now because i dont have to play on high seas maybe you should quit about it

    it doesnt seem that way.

    if you want to be deliberately dense about the context between a suggestion directed at rare and a tip to another player who obviously hasnt forgotten about high seas existence then im done about that line

    Its an open and public forum. Some people have ideas and they are bad. This is one of them. The carrot exists to go play higher seas and they need to

    also long fights suck, arena pvp with limited resources is more fun if anything because people wont just pussyfoot constantly. it was always bad and it was always a minor facet of the game you just want to pretend is was intrinsic to the game and it wasnt. there are other sandbox mmos out there with way more engaging communities than SoT, killing people is ironically a puddle of content especially when it's this boring. everything else about the game is more fun, guys like you and the ones im talking about make it suck and thats why we are where we are

    Going back to your first sentence, im not sure SOT is the game for you. You clearly dont like that it has pvp in it. Big fights are alot of fun. Drawn out slugfests are great. Arena was meh, there wasnt anything on the hook other than a win. Id rather be in a fight with 3-4 world events of loot on the boat, knowing that losing would suck and winning would feel sweeter.
    Pve -only players are not the intended audience.
    Pvp-only players are not the intended audience.

    The sooner you and people who post for improvements to safer seas understand what being a pvpve game really means, the better.

  • TheRealDestian
    Ship Mate

    @captain-coel I play both, but Rare isn't going to inconvenience me into dragging my family into high seas.

  • Selgewick
    Master

    Ney & No point. Ye the only ship 'ere. Just sail the Seas and enjoy.

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