Pets REWORK

@burnbacon

Thank you, Bacon ! I strongly strive to ensure that my ideas are clear and well-developed, professional and well thought out because that's important to me. So, exactly, you have to pay (golden coins) for an animal and a certificate for it to help you. It's far from pay-to-win. It will only happen if you feed your companion regularly enough, and every 1 or 2 hours it will bring you one loot. thats far from a big cheating feature, but at least it gives animal a reason to exist and to be close to us.

Here's my counterargument Mr. Bacon.
Each animal must have its certificate, and with this suggestion, now everyone can have an animal and a certificate without paying real money. So, it's not pay-to-win because by that point, having your own ship is also pay-to-win.(but its not) Let me know if it's clear? Anyway, thank you for writing on my thread. I appreciate it.

@goldsmen

So, it's not pay-to-win because by that point, having your own ship is also pay-to-win.(but its not) Let me know if it's clear? Anyway, thank you for writing on my thread. I appreciate it.

Being able to buy it with gold is not what would make it pay to win, the fact that some one can spend real money to bypass a whole step of it is what makes it pay to win. So like burnbacon said, unless you cant use emporium pets for it, its not going to work out very well.

While i will admit this is a lot more well thought out than previous ideas you have proposed, it still falls victim to the same fault in my eyes. It takes something that does not need to be changed or made more complex, and makes it a lot more complex.

Some times simplicity is what makes something nice. But this is probably better than most of your other ideas that i have seen so far since its not as convoluted.

I understand, and you are right ! but a the same times there remains a minimal amount of money to invest. Yes, you can buy an animal more quickly with ancient coins, so you're right, it's a bit pay-to-win. Let's not hide it; everyone already has at least one animal. And investing 100,000 coins in an animal is already more interesting than spending everything on one outfit for 150,000 golden coins.

So ! YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, it's pay-to-win You make a point. Perhaps I could change the prices of animals that are payable (with golden coins) to make them more accessible and increase the price of the Animal Training Company certificate instead.

So you

1. Want to limit how many pets someone can buy
2. Want to make them pay 2 win
3. Want to add a cumbersome feeding mechanic

That's all levels of a bad idea, man.

@guildar9194 a dit dans Pets REWORK :

So you

1. Want to limit how many pets someone can buy
2. Want to make them pay 2 win
3. Want to add a cumbersome feeding mechanic

That's all levels of a bad idea, man.

I'll update my idea shortly. It won't be pay-to-win anymore. Let me grab my coffee and a bite to eat, and I'll sort it out for you ;)

and its not a bad idea, i desagree

@pithyrumble a dit dans Pets REWORK :

Ugh. No pet powers.
You'll be forcing people use a cosmetic they don't want to. I don't want to equip a hook, hat or pegleg just to get a perk.

If you want to improve animals, suggest an ignore option. Or to let us equip multiple full sized pets...

I don't understand. I thought adding value and a reason for our pets would make you happy lol. But you just want to have a bunch of pets that serve no purpose?? Animal Crossing does that very well. you can go there if you want ahah. Besides, they talk there lol.

More seriously, having more pets on a ship serves no purpose if they don't serve a purpose. I've never heard anyone wanting more pets on their ship since I arrived on the forum and saw your comments. It's clearly out of context and has nothing to do with Sea of Thieves. And they don't have any powers lol. there's no dog bite, cat claw attack ahha. It's not Palworld XD

@littlematjab said in Pets REWORK:

@pithyrumble a dit dans Pets REWORK :

Ugh. No pet powers.
You'll be forcing people use a cosmetic they don't want to. I don't want to equip a hook, hat or pegleg just to get a perk.

If you want to improve animals, suggest an ignore option. Or to let us equip multiple full sized pets...

I don't understand. I thought adding value and a reason for our pets would make you happy lol. But you just want to have a bunch of pets that serve no purpose?? Animal Crossing does that very well. you can go there if you want ahah. Besides, they talk there lol.

More seriously, having more pets on a ship serves no purpose if they don't serve a purpose. I've never heard anyone wanting more pets on their ship since I arrived on the forum and saw your comments. It's clearly out of context and has nothing to do with Sea of Thieves. And they don't have any powers lol. there's no dog bite, cat claw attack ahha. It's not Palworld XD

Pets are meant to be cosmetic, since they cost RL money & Rare wants to avoid the label of 'pay 2 win'.

You also seem to love telling people to 'stop playing' or 'play something else' when they disagree with your ideas.

UPDATE 1#.

Now, only if you don't have any animal associated with the trading company, it will provide you with one. So, it's no longer pay-to-win, and you can continue to buy goodies for your pets.

@pithyrumble a dit dans Pets REWORK :

@littlematjab
My point still stands. You're going to require players who don't want to bother with pets, to bother with pets.

Next you'll want the hooks and eye patches to give perks. I don't want to have to worry about training and feeding my pet. this isn't Pokémon with or without guns

Cannon flares don't do anything. Why have them?
This is your logic. Not everything needs a task. Some things are just for fun.

If you don't want to do it, then don't. If you don't want to feed your animal, then don't? It's that simple. It's just another way for us to help. And I'm sorry, but it's already more fun to feed your pet from time to time than to spend your time doing nothing on the boat. As I said in the original post, it's far from a cheating feature and or far from a extremely advantageous way to gain loot. If you don't want to do it, then don't. Just like you're not obligated to do any voyages in the game if you don't feel like it.

@hiradc a dit dans Pets REWORK :

Palworld is cool, but it's just not right for sea of thieves. It's an integral design of everyone being evenly balanced with the same access and no advantages.

So, what's the advantage of having your own boat? Doesn't it provide an edge?
Explain to me that

@thegingrprince a dit dans Pets REWORK :

This is not a bad idea.

For a different game.

Why wouldn't it be good for Sea of Thieves? Explain briefly please.

@tesiccl a dit dans Pets REWORK :

We shouldn’t be looking to put them to work, let alone get pay to win advantages by having them.

Its not work for them. This will only happen if they are happy.
And also, remember, it's just a game. It's fine to have advantages after paying a large amount! Like what already? Oh yeah, your own ship :)
And I just adjusted my thread with an update. So now it's no longer pay-to-win. I suggest you go back and check it out, then find another reason why it doesn't suit you. :)

Thank you for your comment !

Our pets don’t need functionality, they’re there to be fun companions.

Our pets currently serve no purpose other than for people who feel lonely on their sloop. I have two parrots and a dog. I never use them.

Even worse, they can be disadvantageous during PvP moments because they can give away your position. And no, they're not fun. Send them a ball to play with, and then they'll be at least a bit fun.

Right now, they're not only useless, but after a few times of hearing them cry and whimper, all you want to do is put them back in their chest.

@pithyrumble a dit dans Pets REWORK :

@littlematjab
My point still stands. You're going to require players who don't want to bother with pets, to bother with pets.

Next you'll want the hooks and eye patches to give perks.

Dont put word in my mouth m'am thank you. Its clearly not what im selling here.

Cannon flares don't do anything. Why have them?

What is the purpose of the red and white flares then? Are you sure about what you say? Explain to me.

Oh and animals in SOT it's not just a skin exactly. They are AI that follows us. So if you don't even want to train them, pet them, to bring you loot once in a while and it bothers you, don't feed them. Don't give them attention. Everything will be fine. Just don't do it. Its not for you. Its for other players.
My next thread will be about HG and NPC.

If it doesn't concern you or interest you, there's no need to express yourself. But thank you for the feedback !

This is your logic. Not everything needs a task. Some things are just for fun.

Thats true !

Why Animals need something specific? Because as I said, they're not just skins. They're something that moves and takes part in the adventure. It's not like a perk as if you had a bonus from an equipment, but rather an animal that you have to take care of.

Feed and pet them to make them happy to get something in return.

Give to receive in return.

Nothing is for free in sea of thieves.
Work to get something.
The project matches very well with what the game wants from the player.

You see, I don't fish in the game. To me, it's incredibly boring. I don't even want to know if you fish or not. It doesn't interest me. But if they add an interesting feature to fishing, yes, it might become more fun.

Does everything need a task? No, but if it's part of the gameplay and not just a skin, then yes, there should be at least something in return. Like flares. They serve a purpose. And also fireworks. I often use them to attract a boat's attention.

@tesiccl

Exactly, they’re cosmetic only. The point.

No, they are also AI that follows us in our adventure.

Just saying "because they are cosmetics" is not an argument. Especially since it's not true that they are just that. You can interact with them. Feed them. Make them dance. Pet them. Cannon them.

Let's go further ! A dog, parrot, and cat that serve no purpose in a pirate game whose goal is to search for treasure is a bit of a missed opportunity in my opinion.

Its time that sea of thieves changes. And ill happen even if you guys dont want it.

@badger

I only said that if she doesn't agree and doesn't like the project, it's not for her. Absolutely nothing of what I propose will have an impact on her if the project were to come to fruition. Just like my example about fishing. I don't care about fishing, haha. But if one day there are more advantages to fishing and gaining better loot, why not, and I won't be there to say, "OH NO, DON'T DO THAT" well, not really. You don't want to fish, so it's your problem. And there are other ways to gain loot much more quickly. So do what you want and let people have good ideas.

Oh and btw

The pay-to-win concept in Sea of thieves still makes me laugh. Win what exactly? Gold coins? Not much! And for what? Gathering money for skins, lol. And getting an emissary to level 5 faster? If it really were pay-to-win. That's really the least worst P2W i will ever seen XD.

You that. More loot = more chance for people to steal it from you too. We often forget that your treasures can be stolen in Sea of Thieves, ahaha.

@badger

I have done everything in my power to prove that it's a good idea. And I will continue because I sincerely believe it! And it's concrete. People just don't like good ideas here. It's simple. And if you want to argue, perfect! Argue, and I'll debunk all of that. If you just say no to everything, then what's the point of discussing?

I recently talked about a revamp of the HG, and no one agrees here. Yet I can go watch dozens of videos on the internet and go on Reddit, and people will be much more agreeable. Isn't that weird?

@badger a dit dans Pets REWORK :

Pay to win is a mechanic that says you have an advantage over someone else simply because you've the money to burn. (Whether you've accrued the cost from in-game deeds is ultimately irrelevant as you can just go and purchase the coins to speed the process up.) So to give someone that paid advantage is just not a good look and has been something many gamers have been vehemently against since such methods were introduced.

Anyway. My project is not a P2W anymore. Thanks to the feedback for that ahaha. Bacon help me a lot on that. I appreciate

So having your own boat in Sea of Thieves is a pay-to-win then?

So again, it's really not so surprising that people would not want to see such things show up here as well, etc.

Do you think its a bad idea badger ? X)

@badger

Okay! Well, thank you for stopping by and shedding light on my words. My goal isn't to tell others that my idea is absolutely perfect and must be integrated. They have the right to disagree! My goal here is to defend my points! And that's what I'm doing! :)

"Take feedback and correct the course."

Anyway, if you want to come back to my threads, feel free lol! You're welcome 😂 you've added some substance to this thread, thank you!