What happened to my gilded voyages?

Yes, they are permanently gone and there will be no compensation provided for them.

They warned us in various social media more than a month ago that all voyages saved in our inventory would be going away in the new update, so we should use them or lose them.

Regarding the Bilge Rat voyages, those too have been removed and arenot expected to be re-added either. They have stated there are plans in the future on how to increase our encounters for ashen chests, ashen keys and ritual skulls emergently out in the world.

The Thieves Haven Athena Run voyage was straight-up removed since no one played it, no one liked it and it had been largely replaced with the Legend of the Veil voyage.

@thegrimpreacher Well that is quite sad to hear. But I hadn't seen any of theses warnings from the devs, since I lost nearly full interest in this game for a while. I do feel like they could've pushed out some more notifications on places other than almost just twitter, and maybe have sent out reminders a week before the update. But I'm not mad, just a little disappointed, since some of those were old voyages from the early days, maybe even year 1 or 2.

I will say the one benefit of this new system, it gets rid of all of those people who sell accounts with those stored up voyages :p

what happened to the bilge rat voyages? Literally all of them aside from the Sunken kingdom are gone

Yeah I miss those.

It been what, 2-3 months since they announced that your held voyages would be lost.

Another Rare not making sure everyone heard that message. Poor announcement execution

@sirsilentgamer

But I hadn't seen any of theses warnings from the devs, since I lost nearly full interest in this game for a while. I do feel like they could've pushed out some more notifications on places other than almost just twitter, and maybe have sent out reminders a week before the update.

Sounds like a you issue tbh.
They sent out plenty of reminders everywhere. If you didn’t see them, that’s not Rare’s fault.

@tesiccl said in What happened to my gilded voyages?:

@sirsilentgamer

But I hadn't seen any of theses warnings from the devs, since I lost nearly full interest in this game for a while. I do feel like they could've pushed out some more notifications on places other than almost just twitter, and maybe have sent out reminders a week before the update.

Sounds like a you issue tbh.
They sent out plenty of reminders everywhere. If you didn’t see them, that’s not Rare’s fault.

SoT has an unhealthy obsession with Twitter/X.

There could have been more visibility about this... and other things.

@ziggaman

It's a good point. You get a guaranteed Ashen Guardian and Ashen Key Master spawn at every skellie fort world event (and now every single skellie fort raid you can dive to on demand) on the 'captain' wave before the final Skeleton Lord for a guaranteed ashen chest and ashen key.

Every skellie ship you sink has a higher than average chance of spawning ashen chests and the occasional key and the Ashen Guardian/Key Master still pop up as emergent captains on islands all over the map.

Ritual skulls are a little harder to come by outside of the fleet, but now since the Skull of Destiny voyage is free to start from your map table at any point, who cares? Unless you like the longer slog of collecting the flames individually before running a FotD.

Point of clarification.

It wasn't only announced on Social media...

J0 also posted the announcement on these forums.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/163579/important-unique-voyages-must-be-used/1

@realstyli Are forums not considered a form of social media now?

That post has under 1k views (as of this comment), compared to a locked thread titled "hitreg needs more attention" which has well over 8k views.

I never did a whole lot of voyaging, but I feel for the folks who don't have their noses buried in social media, and instead, want better in-game messaging about changes/updates, servers shutting down, etc.

Isn't there a sort of "news" or "what's new" tab in the menu, or am I misremembering things? If not, Rare should add one. And if we have one, they should probably use it for more than, "hey look at this new emporium monkey."

@theblackbellamy said in What happened to my gilded voyages?:

@realstyli Are forums not considered a form of social media now?

It depends on your definition. Forums have been around for longer than the general use of the term "social media". I would categorise social media as being defined by emphasise on the "social" elements - such as following and liking.

But, it can't really be used to excuse the OP missing out, as they are happy enough to complain here, so clearly use the forums.

That post has under 1k views (as of this comment), compared to a locked thread titled "hitreg needs more attention" which has well over 8k views.

I agree that the Announcements section is in a badly highlighted area. I would say that most people frequent the Game Discussion subforum. But I think comparing it to a topic on a more contentious issue isn't really a good indication.

I never did a whole lot of voyaging, but I feel for the folks who don't have their noses buried in social media, and instead, want better in-game messaging about changes/updates, servers shutting down, etc.

Oh, I agree. I'm glad they finally added the feature to notify in-game, but they could use it more.

Isn't there a sort of "news" or "what's new" tab in the menu, or am I misremembering things? If not, Rare should add one. And if we have one, they should probably use it for more than, "hey look at this new emporium monkey."

Yes, there is one. Again, I agree completely. I see no reason why they couldn't have a "live feed" in game for all the important announcements. They could have it in the main menu but also accessible via the underused Quest Board at outposts.

@realstyli Sure, hitreg is a contentious topic. But this thread isn't. There's only a handful of us even replying in here, and it has 500-something views, only a few hundred short of the post about a major game announcement.

So to say, "they didn't just post it in other social spaces, they also posted it here," reminds me of my nephew saying, "I'm not 5. I'm 5 and 3 months." Lol. The viewership here is going to be a fraction of what it is over twitter. And whatever they post on twitter or here won't get noticed by folks who visit the forums infrequently, and/or just don't use twitter.

We agree that in-game messaging is a good thing, and could be built upon. And I agree with you and deadstick that the onus falls on the individual to know, provided that you put the information in front of their face.

You'll still have folks who see the in-game message, and ignore it. You'll have folks who are out of the loop because they haven't logged in for months. And there's nothing you can do about bringing them up to speed.

@gravesilence272 I've never played D&D but I see your point & I agree to an extent. Though if I only played a D&D sesh once every 6 months & the DM made a change, I'd probably be as indifferent as I am now about the voyage change lol.

You see it as destructive. Rare obviously didn't. Opinions aside, it was a change. And it wasn't the first major change to happen in the last 5+ years either (RIP Arena :,( ). So if I knew the DM was someone who would do something like that, it wouldn't surprise me.

Better in-game messaging would benefit the regulars who aren't involved in social media, and may have missed a forum post. They may see it as positive or negative, or they may be indifferent, but they'd at least be aware.

@gravesilence272 what if the DM replaced those items with other items, or altered some system so that those items are no longer required?

I mean, I'm understanding what you're saying. Something was there and now it isn't. There was a voyage system, and they removed it.

But it doesn't end with destruction, there was new construction. They added a new system which removed the need to store voyages at all.

When I said "you see it as destructive," I guess it would have been more accurate to say, "you feel the net outcome is destructive," and that's either because you're not recognizing or not happy with what was constructed in its place. Am I wrong?

A change was made. Something was removed and replaced. How you feel about it is up to you. Personally, if I do something only once every 6 months, I probably won't mind if some aspect of it changed.

Again, I'm indifferent here. Using your example, the DM took away items I forgot I even hoarded, and made it so I didn't have to buy them anymore haha.

@gravesilence272 said:

@theblackbellamy said:

I mean, I'm understanding what you're saying. Something was there and now it isn't. There was a voyage system, and they removed it.

...you are absolutely wrong. A "destructive change" is a descriptive that literally means "something was removed", it has nothing to do with how anybody feels, or anyone's opinion, mine or yours.
...If you are still confused, please mentally substitute the words "a change where something was removed" instead of "destructive change".

...You can add as many constructive changes as you like, but it can't negate the fact that something was removed.

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I understand something was removed lol. I'm not saying that what was constructed in its place "negates" that it was removed, but I am recognizing that it was constructed in its place.

If someone destroys a school and then builds a new one in its place, you'd be right in saying "they destroyed a school," although you wouldn't be fully recognizing the net outcome.

Being unhappy with the new school is a separate story.

Old voyage system was destroyed. New voyage system was constructed. And my interest in this thread has been exhausted.

I lost my gilded voyage of restitution along with a bunch of gilded voyages. :(

Adding to the crowd, I don't use Twitter any longer but I DO watch their Sea of Thieves videos, and I don't recall them announcing the lost voyages there, and I feel like that's most important. I could be wrong though. I adore their new Voyage system, it's an overall improvement, but I'm a little saddened as I was saving these voyages for an opportunity to play them with a full crew. Making things more strange, they all have a "Special Voyage" page for one-use voyages, so I wonder if they had planned to use this for these lost voyages? I get removing the Bilge Rat voyages as some of them simply no longer work, but I'd really like to see the Gilded Voyages come back here: