Head Bounty

I sink a crew
They put bounty on me
My friend sinks me
He collects the bounty

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@captain-fob4141 said in Head Bounty:

@foambreaker I mean this is no more or less exploitable than any other mechanic//hourglass.

This is not true at all.

Plus, that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The person sunk thinks they are getting some kind of payback by placing a bounty when in fact they are giving the person or friends their gold on top of being sunk.

Then, even worse, in games that have tried bounties the bounty becomes a badge of honor and causes players to aggressively sink innocents to get even more bounties.

These problems are inherent to all bounty systems and have been since UO instituted bounties on "murderers" 25 years ago.

A bounty system should be based on actions that increase notoriety. If players can put hits out on other players then it will be abused as others have mentioned already.

If they added bounties, I'd like it to work like in ESO. Your bounty stays for a set amount of time or until you pay it off. Or work like Star Citizen where you can clear your bounty by doing a specific task and waiting at the task location for a set amount of time, during which time someone has opportunity to hunt you. I think the SC system is more fun, and I've suggested the ESO system before and people don't want to pay to clear a bounty. Because it's "a punishment for being good." Like being attacked for carrying loot isn't? But w/e the time limit might be a better thing anyway since it would synergize with people offloading their w007s.

It should work like the Emissary system but apply to players instead of ships. Only player kills increases your bounty, not sinks. When a player with a bounty dies to another player, they drop a ranked skull and that skull is worth whatever their bounty is. Probably should just use the regular skeleton skull values so it isn't getting cheesed to death.

Questboard would have a list of bounties like they do maps. It has a picture of the player's pirate and their GT along with a value. It would say "last spotted in [Devil's Roar/The Wilds/etc.]" and update the location every five minutes.

F76 is an example of a bad system. I've been trying to get every single bounty I see on the server even when it's just 5 caps so I can complete the challenge. In the entire time I've played, I've gotten 3 and many of them were from trap camp players. Everyone else logs off. Logging off clears your bounty completely, no time limit.

@crowedhunter The thing is about SoT versus those other games is the small per server population and the movement per server via either hopping or HG.

The odds of actually tracking down a person with a bounty are low and when you arrive they may not even be on the same server anymore.

@foambreaker Sounds like fun to me.

I have fun looking for tuckers at FotD or on my ship too.

@captain-fob4141 I have to agree with pithy here. This sounds like institutionalizing harassment. People can harass other people until they scuttle or portal hop, but nobody is encouraged to do so.

@captain-fob4141 There is also a reward in placing a bounty. Knowing that someone will go bother that individual. That's the problem. Furthermore you proposed pushing the bounty off of the server. Which may take repeated sinks or spawn camping. Which is categorized as harassment. Probably.

I don't think any system that allows players to set the bounties would be used more for fun than for petty revenge.

@kptbadewanne

I like this idea. I also would like to add 3 suggestions to your version of the idea. First thing is that make they should make it to where the person who has a bounty on them should be able to pay off the bounty with like 10% interest and it would go back to the person who made the bounty, so say if someone with a 10,000 gold bounty on them can pay of the bounty, but they have to pay 11,000 gold. Second thing is bounty alliances, where you put up a special offer alliance flag and if someone wants to join it, they must be approved to join by the ship they're trying to join, and if say one of them gets the bounty, then the bounty would be split amongst the people in the alliance, like say there's 2 full sloops in a bounty alliance for a bounty of 40,000, each member would get 10,000 as opposed to 2 people getting 20,000 for it. Third thing is let the bounty be any of the currencies, like it can be gold, doubloons, or ancient coins, it's up to you what you offee for someone's head, though make a limit on ancient coins like make it 1,000.

@captain-fob4141 Ah, then I misunderstood that part. I was wondering why you'd suggest that, lol. This makes more sense.

However, I still think that players posting bounties is rife for abuse. It would allow me to go spend 4 mil to put up a bounty on someone for looking at me crossways. If I understand this correctly now, then they just have to deal with that heat until someone finally gets them. There's nothing they could do to avoid my random ire for the simple fact that I have gold and get amused by abusing the system.

(I don't get amused by that, I was just using me in the example.)

@captain-fob4141 I think players shouldn't be able to place bounties on other players. I think placing bounties on a ship as a workaround to allow for targeting specific players is redundant with the emissary flags.

I also think being rewarded without having to capture something (like a flag or skull) makes it less fun. There needs to be a greater objective than killing or sinking.

I don't think your idea is bad aside from players arbitrating who is a target and who isn't, but I'm sorry to say that I just flat out don't like it. But again, I don't think it's a bad idea. I just like my idea better, as you might have guessed.

@captain-fob4141 Do you really not understand what I said or are you just being pedantic because I didn't like your idea?

It is arbitrated by the player because it isn't automatic, wise guy.

@captain-fob4141 That was a legitimate question given your completely earnest disagreement with my word choice and I hardly thought "wise guy" would get you so put-off. I'm sorry for calling you that, assuming you are actually offended and not just grandstanding. I do think you are clearly intelligent and I appreciate how well-spoken you are.

If it was "pedantic" that offended you, then I would stand my ground on that one. I was describing the action of staking an argument on semantics rather than intention, not meaning to describe your character.

But I think you're just upset that your little ploy backfired and now it's DARVO time. So I'll shut up and leave like you so carefully asked.

@captain-fob4141 Oh yes, I like the idea. The only problem is that the suggestion of sending flyers to the outposts (similar to One Piece) would no longer apply. Maybe you could do that on Reapers Hideout too, just with a flyer about the ship name