We need to get RARE to banned those who abuses the weapons glitch that allow to shoot faster and cancel animations

I think a full-on ban is a bit much, and tbf it's Rare's own fault for not prioritising the issue more if they really wanted to fix it. There is a certain point where it becomes less of a user issue and more of a "well it has been like 4 years since you changed anything to get rid of it", which was back as a monthly update iirc

@stew360 use shelters and jump frequently. The sum of the factors of poor registration and your maneuverability negate the fact of hitting you.

@stew360 an exploit that Rare have left open isn’t ban-able and shouldn’t be. And they aren’t cheaters.

@stew360 if we’re gonna throw definitions around, it isn’t a glitch either. Cheating is using the paid stuff that you actually get banned for that breaks the games rules. Quick swap doesn’t break the rules, it just uses an exploit that Rare have left open for a long time. Here’s hoping they eventually fix it.

@stew360 report them and see what the official response is. When you have sea of thieves partners that also use these mechanics you have to assume that rare don't deem it an exploit to the extent of taking action for it.
The boundaries aren't very clear for what is an exploit or bannable action it's somewhat left to community to make decisions based on their own morale compass.

Edit to add if you don't think sword lunge helps pvp then you're doing it wrong. There is a massive hitbox that goes through things like mast etc, can knock multiple people off their ship.

A ban is too harsh, like others said, this has been around for YEAARS, it's the end result of the "skill ceiling" arguably. I think, if Rare wanted to address it and change it, a blanket statement would be good saying it's an unintended feature and shall be worked on, no ifs, ands, or buts. Don't punish those that, arguably, have been using a "tool, not a rule" for years in such a way, but if it's going to change, then people need to accept it. Same things happened back when X-bucketing got removed. It was a sweaty, broken "tool" that people learnt, and upset the balance of the game, and thusly required changing. People were mad, but look now, it's a thing of the past.

@heyltsmetc I miss the ‘quick scooping’

You've probably quick swapped too if you've shot your gun then sprinted to a sword swipe quickly. Would you want yourself banned too?

The animation cancel isn’t the problem alone. The problem is people using Zens on Xbox only lobbies to program a one key input to reproduce the whole multi button combination.

@ixxxoloff definitely use shelter but jumping is debatable for me it makes people super predictable while in the air aswell as making you more prone to getting knocked off

@stew360 use the glitch yourself...

Get gud…

@stew360 said in We need to get RARE to banned those who abuses the weapons glitch that allow to shoot faster and cancel animations:

@qu1etone
So basically your fix to hackers using aimbots would be ( Use aimbots yourself ) ? Wow that's a thing
Hackers and exploiters are different things stop making the same bad point over and over. Banning quick swapers is a horrible idea and will never happen because it would destroy the current pvp meta

@ott3rman5343 said in We need to get RARE to banned those who abuses the weapons glitch that allow to shoot faster and cancel animations:

@stew360 said in We need to get RARE to banned those who abuses the weapons glitch that allow to shoot faster and cancel animations:

@qu1etone
So basically your fix to hackers using aimbots would be ( Use aimbots yourself ) ? Wow that's a thing

Hackers and exploiters are different things stop making the same bad point over and over. Banning quick swapers is a horrible idea and will never happen because it would destroy the current pvp meta
Idk why this is down here

so basically ban everyone who played the game in the first 2 years of release since the wrapon draw animation didnt exist in the first place? the problem now is that adding the delay also added an animation cancel tactic which puts people on an unlevel playing ground when rare said that was the one thing they wanted in this game. no player power, only the knowledge of the game could be used to your advantage but anything you could do someone else could do.

instead they added a way for people to basically cheat and at the same time made combat feel really sluggish and gross

Skill issue honestly. The ttk difference is .2 seconds

Hell no bro. A glitch is a glitch, NO glitch is or should be bannable. A glitch is a problem with the game, not some external cheat from the player. Not only that, but you want to BAN them? You clearly don’t understand what you are talking about bro. Just get better.

@stew360 bro a glitch is something wrong with the game. Glitch abusing SHOULDN’T be bannable at all. Its not the players fault RARE just left out exploits for people to use. Thats RARE’s fault. You also said that it promotes an un-fair advantage for the player going against the glitch. If its so un-fair, JUST USE THE GLITCH TOO!! Then the fight or whatever would be equal.

Look, I don't like quick switching as the PvP meta, but I wouldn't ban players for using it...

That isn't very productive, and your conduct involving this suggestion is on the level of someone crying over a loss they thought they didn't deserve.

Quick Switching is a sense of skill because it's fairly uncommon, let alone executed correctly, this has stuck around for the last 3 years. This issue went widespread because it wasn't a big enough issue, players could falsely report it for macro'ing, and this "forbidden" tactic just boosted the egos of players who were not only already good, but getting better. Very much the fault of the developers for not squashing it during the Arena days, but for now, it looks like it's here to stay, and we just gotta deal with it.

I do think if there was a combat overhaul, it would be to identify the speed of combat to make it casual and competitive friendly without making the two playstyle hierarchies clash harder than two colliding trains in a junction.

@stew360 said in We need to get RARE to banned those who abuses the weapons glitch that allow to shoot faster and cancel animations:

@Nex Stargaze Tons of players use macro to instantly achieve it and the same loosers ruined OG double guns for all of us because of their abuse and cheating nature ...

There is an epidemic in cheating curently mostly due to Tiktok , Youtube and wannabe twitch streamers epidemic ... They all want to be paid to play videogames and seek to gain traction by " outperforming" others and using glitch , cheats , hacks is few of many ways they use to achieve their " dream goals " of wich not even 0,1% will achieve even while using cheats and hacks ..yet right now according to recent statistic OVER 30% of gamers cheat and hacks that's almost 1 in 3 gamers its huge !

Mighty fine statistics and claims you've got there, got a source?

Quick Switching isn't cheating. It's exploiting, but it's treated as though any player can do it if they try hard enough. People may macro, but the amount of people I've seen perform it, including actually popular twitch streamers, are genuinely pulling off the inputs without much failure (because you know, they practiced a lot, and their gaming equipment is probably better than yours).

This really weird narrative is painting an issue in such a radical way that it's turning into a joke at this rate. You'll probably want to collect your thoughts and do some more research, as well as receive actual anecdotal evidence from genuine players that aren't telling you the bare minimum and would be willing to explain these kinds of things to you.

Exploits are not a boogeyman or the death of the game, it's a problem that could use some fixing, but nothing super extreme. To assume it is, shows that's the perspective of someone very uninformed about gaming.