I think cannon balls should only be able to 1 shot 1 person per cannon ball. It is extremely frustrating when almost all of your crew suddenly dies. I also think something similar could be implemented for solos. Not that the cannon ball still shouldn’t do damage, it should make everyone have 10% hp within the 1 ball range and only 1 ball one person.
Multi person 1 balls and HG.
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
I think cannon balls should only be able to 1 shot 1 person per cannon ball. It is extremely frustrating when almost all of your crew suddenly dies. I also think something similar could be implemented for solos. Not that the cannon ball still shouldn’t do damage, it should make everyone have 10% hp within the 1 ball range and only 1 ball one person.
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@nitroxien It happens rather frequently. And suggesting we both at pineapples, no we were not low hp. You need to play more PvP.
Multi-oneshot with a single cannonball? I can't say I've ever heard or seen that in basically my whole time playing the game, it'd be impressive to say the least. Arguably deserved if they manage to pull it off. Also give your crew some personal space and I imagine it'd help a lot with the issue, I can't think of many situations that you'd be directly next to/behind your crew during combat for more than a moment.
A cannonball is a cannonball, I feel like making it not one shot is defeating a lot of the point and making it questionably too strong...@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@nitroxien It happens rather frequently. And suggesting we both at pineapples, no we were not low hp. You need to play more PvP.
sounds like low hp to me.
@gallerine5582 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
...Also give your crew some personal space...
In the military they teach not to all stand next to each other so one grenade of bomb can take everyone out...
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@captain-coel you do understand that pineapples heal for 100% hp right?
I'm well aware of how pineapples work. I doubt you AND your cremated successfully ate them. Either one person is wrong, maybe you got food regged, maybe you were in the actor eating and the cannonball hit.
I know I've stacked players on top of eachother to test things and only 1 has died. AoE damage can still knock out crews easily enough.
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@captain-coel We both ate pineapples. Simple really.
Did they register or did one you suffer food reg? Do you have a recording from both perspectives?
Just from my experience there is alot going on in combat.
If I understand correctly the op is talking about enhanced splash damage. I have witnessed cases recently when teammates get killed from the same cannon ball hitting an object nearby and causing splash damage. I think this new cannon ball physics behavior was introduced with the last update of the HG.
@gallerine5582 @BurnBacon Most frequently happens when someone is going downstairs to the map table area on the sloop, or over to the cannonball barrel from cannons, and the other person is doing the other thing. If they hit (or the game thinks it hit) anywhere between the mast and those stairs, it usually kills both people. I've also had similar things happen on Brig with the stairs there. This last cannonball also happened to hit reg, and one ball both of us even though it completely missed, was all the more infuriating. I would simply like it to be a 1 person death per cannonball, not crew wiping us on duo sloop because of a lucky hitreg.
@metal-ravage potentially, but either way it should not be 1 shotting via splash damage in the first place.
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@nitroxien It happens rather frequently. And suggesting we both at pineapples, no we were not low hp. You need to play more PvP.
I have over 2k hours of nothing but PVP ...
I can tell you in my grind to ghost and skelly curse and LSD/TSD I have never once seen this happen...
I simply refuse to believe this is a common occurrence for you.
@nitroxien I've seen it maybe once, usually brig when first person dies as everyone rushes to ress so they target same spot
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@captain-coel I ate pineapple and healed, my friend was full HP.
I just went and tested it. I finally had time. It doesnt kill both people. It would kill 1 pirate and do 75% damage against the other. I tested this with 10 shots and the damage was consistant. I tested it by having pirates occupy the exact spot on the bow so I could shoot them or by placing them in identical locations on a ladder. the damage was always the same. I did this by getting 2 sloops on the same server, sailing them to the same location and placing two accounts on 1 boat and 1 on the other.
One of you wasn't at full health.
@captain-coel see I’d agree if I didn’t see it with my own 2 eyes. Regardless point of the post still stands.
@fysics3037 I'm just saying it already behaves in the way you want it.
I mean I tested it without anything odd happening. Could you guys have had other damage sources occurring at the same time?
@captain-coel don’t think you understand what I said in the post. It shouldn’t be able to kill multiple people period, just kill 1 person and bring the other down to 10% hp.
@fysics3037 if you aren't full health the splash damage should absolutely kill multiple people. Why should the game protect you if both players are at 10%, they should both die. That's a you problem. Eat more often. Eat somewhere safer. Don't be in the same place as a crewmate. There are so many ways to mitigate this. Asking for the game to do it for you is wrong.
@fysics3037 simple solution. Don’t stand right next to each other. Adapt. This sound like poor strategy. Not a Rare problem.
@fysics3037 said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
@captain-coel cool opinion. idc.
I mean you're complaining about a non issue. If your getting sunk because you and your teammates are getting team killed by cannons, you need to work on positioning. You need to work on roles. You need to eat.
It is not a non issue.
You can absolutely have the crew destroyed by a singular cannonball if they are too close in the area of impact for w/e reason.
This did not used to happen.
I have also had the unfortunate experience with this when facing dino nuggie and his crew with my crew. A very lucky triple hit kill with a single ball. One was rezing our one guy who went down and during that time another was running down to patch and bail.
One single ball took out the fresh res, the rezer, and the bilge. It was crazy.
We lost that engagement because of that triple hit KO.
@personalc0ffee said in Multi person 1 balls and HG.:
It is not a non issue.
Nope, it's a non issue related to coordination.
You can absolutely have the crew destroyed by a singular cannonball if they are too close in the area of impact for w/e reason.
Sounds like a team problem.
This did not used to happen.
Yes it did. Adding revives made it more noticeable. It meant the opportunity to have a full hp players near a low hp player is higher. watching for the rez is a huge part of cannon suppression for shots. When you see a player dusting up, it's important to look for the rez. Being able to drop two players with a bait is awesome. Knowing when to and when not to rez is important.
I have also had the unfortunate experience with this when facing dino nuggie and his crew with my crew. A very lucky triple hit kill with a single ball. One was rezing our one guy who went down and during that time another was running down to patch and bail.
One single ball took out the fresh res, the rezer, and the bilge. It was crazy.
We lost that engagement because of that triple hit KO.
That's a you issue. You were piled on top of eachother. It means your bilge didn't have full hp. You deserved to lose that engagement. You as a team failed. It might feel "unfair" but that is part of naval and has been for a long time.
