Add some Rogue milestones

Fireworks launched is a good one, yes. They are definitely needed - i have only ever seen one rogue ship since captaincy was introduced. Thinking about it, i have never seen an emissary one, which surprises me quite a lot.

Proud legendary rogue, and I approve this message.

@sally-kraken said in Add some Rogue milestones:

Fireworks launched is a good one, yes. They are definitely needed

Fireworks is already under 'cannons fired' in 'the feared'. It would in my opinion a bit strange to make a special one for that and not for any other type of cannonballs...

@sally-kraken said in Add some Rogue milestones:

i have only ever seen one rogue ship since captaincy was introduced.

Maybe because most people don't like to show that one of? 4 of my 6 captained ships are legendary rogues, but none show the title. I just don't like that one.

@sally-kraken said in Add some Rogue milestones:

Thinking about it, i have never seen an emissary one, which surprises me quite a lot.

The emissary one is a quite grindy one to get. My ship with the most milestones (1,400 exactly at this moment) only has a total of 39 for the emissaries, with 15 as the highest individual. In fact, if i check my pirates milestones, then i still don't have an individual one at 50 (highest is 34). The emissary one is just not that easy to get, it takes a lot of time.
The Rogue one on the other hand is quite easy to get, you can get it in just 2,5 hours by grinding the sleeping milestone. No other milestone can be gotten that quickly i think.

@lem0n-curry said in Add some Rogue milestones:

@sally-kraken said in Add some Rogue milestones:

Fireworks launched is a good one, yes.

That would remove my level 100 cannons fired milestone 😎, if it would count only for Rogue and no longer for Feared.

They are definitely needed - i have only ever seen one rogue ship since captaincy was introduced.

It is a nice title, but it would mean the captain has been drinking, sleeping, sitting or playing shanties for considerable time. Nothing wrong with that ... but perhaps not everyone wants that to be associated with them.

Thinking about it, i have never seen an emissary one, which surprises me quite a lot.

Well, it's 5 million gold total for the non-reaper emissaries or 10 million gold for reaper (or combination of e.g. 4 million and 2 million), so that's quite a lot. Could also be players find other titles more fun or fitting.

Personally I don't agree with the impression that you need to grind out the rogue by being dead weight, though I'm sure the first people to get the title did just that.

I sit or play shanties when I'm on lookout duty or when the ship will be traveling in a straight line for a while. You retain a lot more awareness than if you're fishing that way.

Likewise it's easy to take small sips of grog between doing things on the ship so you bring the level down without getting drunk.
Sometimes I will down a whole grog at once if my crew is in an intermission or when we're about to log off.

Finally sleeping is something I just do when I'm on my own time and want to heal while conserving food, or if I have to go AFK for a minute. I'll also sit if I'm going AFK.

All that got me legendary rogue without what I would call a true grind, just mindfulness of how I spend my time.

They just nerfed the sleep, now it only works if you use the bed.

@super87ghost said in Add some Rogue milestones:

Fireworks is already under 'cannons fired' in 'the feared'. It would in my opinion a bit strange to make a special one for that and not for any other type of cannonballs...

I see where you're coming from, but I think it really just depends on how you look at it. To me, fireworks are completely set apart from all other cannonballs. You can technically set a ship on fire with them, but it's not a guarantee that you'll set a ship on fire and probably not how you want to normally attack other ships. Aside from players (maybe there should be a milestone for players shot from a cannon too?), fireworks are the only non-combat thing that you fire from cannons.

@tacheon What about pets and flares? ;-)

Then you would have to make some for those too (or did you include flares with fireworks?). But then you will already get the problem that pets are paid content and thus you would have a milestone you only can get if you buy something, wich i think would be wrong.

@super87ghost
Pets I don't think should count to any milestone.

Flares should go to "the feared" as flares are used to fight shades.

@super87ghost said in Add some Rogue milestones:

@tacheon What about pets and flares? ;-)

Then you would have to make some for those too (or did you include flares with fireworks?). But then you will already get the problem that pets are paid content and thus you would have a milestone you only can get if you buy something, wich i think would be wrong.

There's no rule that states adding Fireworks means that you HAVE to add other stuff too. It's not an "add everything or add nothing" situation, it's an "add what makes sense to add" situation. Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me it makes perfect sense to add Fireworks Launched because there's a whole slew of fireworks available to find/purchase that can turn shooting fireworks into a whole activity in its own right.

Also to me, it doesn't really make sense to add Pets Fired From Cannon because, while hilarious, it's not really something that players typically do as an activity. To your point as well, a milestone shouldn't be locked behind a paywall anyway.

In my mind I grouped flares in with fireworks, but if they're legitimately used to fight things then maybe it makes sense to keep them as part of Cannons Fired...

@scheneighnay said in Add some Rogue milestones:

Flares should go to "the feared" as flares are used to fight shades.

...or maybe it makes sense to create a separate category for them? I personally never use them, so I don't have much useful input for what to do with flares aside from "group with fireworks".

@tacheon
Or it could count towards multiple categories I guess. Not like you can abuse it when you can't buy them.