Remove Captain Ship damage when starting a new game

  • I'd like to start a new game with a fresh ship that doesn't look like it went through a war. (This isn't referring to if you server hop) Paying to fix your ship every server isn't a good idea. What's the point when sailing by an island or a fort your ship is damaged right away? Is the cost to fix your ship designed to chip away at inflated gold counts? I grind out ship cosmetics only for my ship to look terrible because I don't feel like paying gold every time I play. Just seems unnecessary in a cosmetic based game.

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  • Captaincy gives you the MASSIVE advantage of sovereigns and other options.

    It has to have some downsides. In this case, it is actually caring about your ship.

    Thats why the map markers stay too. You did not clean them.

  • When you pay to repair the ship it costs just pennies, my recommendation, dont fix it for every small hole at the docks, most people wont notice a little scuff.

  • @goldsmen The point is it's instantly back to heavily damaged. I'm a pvp player so it's not worth it at all.

  • Just want to point out this feature was begged for for years.

    Maybe listen when someone says bad idea lol.

  • @thorumsu Having a damaged ship isn't a disadvantage. There is no reason to have a "disadvantage" in this case to begin with. Fast selling has nothing to do with a damaged ship. The game is based on cosmetics. I shouldn't have to use loot gained to have a clean ship for 5 minutes.

  • Paying to fix your ship every server isn't a good idea.

    Neither is paying to fix your car when it breaks down or tires go flat, But if you think about it...you dont have to Pay to fix anything.

    I'd like to start a new game with a fresh ship that doesn't look like it went through a war.

    Pay for the fixes or sail the sea anyways. Pick one.

    What's the point when sailing by an island or a fort your ship is damaged right away?

    What the point of sailing so close to those ships to begin with? You can if your good at sailing, avoid taking any damage.

    Is the cost to fix your ship designed to chip away at inflated gold counts?

    Yup, and it very cheap.

    grind out ship cosmetics only for my ship to look terrible because I don't feel like paying gold every time I play.

    Then...Dont pay to fix your ship....and take less damage. I dont understand this topic.

  • @burnbacon Bacon is back to start fights...weird. None of what you said makes sense. Especially avoiding damage? Bro what? I'm a pvp player my ship is insta trashed.

  • @iloveponies15

    As I said, That's the whole point. That is YOUR ship. Not rented. You have to look after it. Clean the ship and repair it from the shipwright. This is the thought process behind the update if you listen to Mike in any of the podcasts.

    If you just want a fresh ship everytime you spawn, rented ships are for you.

  • @iloveponies15 said in Remove Captain Ship damage when starting a new game:

    @burnbacon Bacon is back to start fights...weird. None of what you said makes sense. Especially avoiding damage? Bro what? I'm a pvp player my ship is insta trashed.

    If your ship is insta-trash, then maybe you and your crew need to improve? Perhaps you can work on your long-range combat, or be more stealthy!

  • @thorumsu please don't defend those map markers as if they have a purpose 😅

  • @iloveponies15 sagte in Remove Captain Ship damage when starting a new game:

    @thorumsu Having a damaged ship isn't a disadvantage. There is no reason to have a "disadvantage" in this case to begin with. Fast selling has nothing to do with a damaged ship. The game is based on cosmetics. I shouldn't have to use loot gained to have a clean ship for 5 minutes.

    He didn't call it a disadvantage...he called it a downside...and that's what it is...a downside, just an optical one and if they just made one guy create a thread about it, they succeeded in making a downside to it

  • @galactic-geek I need to improve because my ship is damaged from pvp? Bro just stop LOL

  • @schwammlgott thanks for the response. Totally worth reading

  • @iloveponies15 sagte in Remove Captain Ship damage when starting a new game:

    @schwammlgott thanks for the response. Totally worth reading

    Thank you very much. I knew you would appreciate it...😝

  • @hiradc said in Remove Captain Ship damage when starting a new game:

    @thorumsu please don't defend those map markers as if they have a purpose 😅

    They dont. But as I said, thats on the person who leaves them. A random dude wont clean it up for ya :)

  • I've always viewed the ship repair costs as a "convenience fee" of sorts.

    -Saved Ship Cosmetics? Pretty dope
    -Buyable Captain's supplies? Super duper
    -Sovereigns? Freaking Amazing

    Sure, there's one-time up-front fees for some of those things...but as a whole, I'll happily pay the ongoing "convenience fee" for my ship to look pretty when I want it to. It's not like the visual damage stuff impacts my ship's performance should I choose not to (or forget to) repair it.

  • Just don't pay for it and eventually the cannonball decals reset :) If you're into PvP, your ship is going to get damaged almost immediately anyways.

  • I like battle scars on my ship.

  • It feels like this feature exists just to add a little insult to injury when it comes to sinking.
    “Great! Not only did I get sunk and lose all my treasure, but now my ship has more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese, and I have to pay some gold to repair it!”

  • 100% yes please, OP. I don't see any real reason why the "Damage carries over between sessions" can't be an option, and just have people pay the shipwright to fix the damage during a session, or if they choose to have it carry over.

    The arguments for this to be mandatory always boil down to the same things, and they are contradictory and pointless.

    1. "It's really cheap, just find one mermaid gem or Captain's Chest and you are good to go!"
    2. "It is the drawback to Captaincy. For every reward there must be some risk/drawback. You get to use the Sovereigns, so to balance that out you pay for ship damage."
    3. "We've been begging for a gold-sink for so long! I have tens of millions of gold and nothing to spend it on!"
    4. "I want my ship to tell the story of my adventures, battle-scars and all!"

    Now these are all easily refuted, and 1 and 3 contradict each other anyway.

    1. If it is so cheap to be meaningless, why is it even included? The devs toyed with adding a "death tax" that you payed when you came off the Ferry of the Damned for a bit, but the outrage from the community was huge and in the end the devs didn't want to punish players for playing the game aggressively or in a way that they might get killed a lot. It especially only really affected newer players, as players with millions of gold didn't mind the tax, and players with small amounts of gold would have to change playstyles to being more safe/cautious because they didn't want to lose what precious little gold they had. This is pretty much the same for the damage carrying between sessions, except you aren't forced to pay it. The same arguments apply though. It hurts players with smaller pockets, and doesn't really affect the ones with large piles of gold at all. And it being so cheap, what is even the point?

    2. It actually isn't a drawback, because you don't have to pay it, and the "price" for Captaincy was the 250,000+ gold you already spent on your captained ship, as well as the price payed to keep your cosmetics on your ship. The thing about saving cosmetics, side-bar, is also interesting because you don't have to pay to save them, and if you don't it just acts like an un-captained ship: you just add cosmetics manually. However you don't have the option for it being like an un-captained ship for damage carry-over. Anyway, since it's not a price you actually have to pay, it is not the price for using the Sovereigns. That argument is just wrong. There's already a price with using the Sovereigns, and it is purchasing a ship for a not insignificant amount of gold.

    3. Ah, yes, the gold-sink. "But wait!" I hear you say, "I thought repairs were super cheap!" Ah, yes, that's what we keep being told. It only takes a few mermaid gems or a few Captain's Chests to make up the cost, right? So how on the Seas is it at all a gold-sink? If one or two pieces of loot make up the cost, how will the pirates sitting on hoards of gold ever see an impact from it with such a paltry price? The thing is: they won't. At all. So it is not a good gold-sink at all. Not like the bunches of 100,000 gold trinkets that are now available, or other things like rugs, chairs, decorations, all which cost much more than repairing your ship. THAT'S your gold-sink. Not repairing your ship. That will never make a dent for people who need a gold-sink.

    4. And the last one. It is a great idea to have the option to carry over your damage! The option! But why force it on pirates, when for almost 5 years we have been starting each session with a clean, fresh looking ship? For a game set on selling cosmetics, it's hard to want to purchase any ship-sets from the Emporium when I know I will just have to pay my hard-earned in-game gold to get any use out of them. So make it an option! Heck, let pirates buy certain kids of cosmetic damage, maybe tied to Commendations or Milestones. Kill 25 megs? You can purchase the "Meg attack" damage, which looks like large teeth marks on your hull. How about a Kraken? Kill 25 of them and you get the "Tentacle Tangle" damage, which leaves large sucker-prints on your hull. Tangle with skelly ships often? Maybe you get left with holes in your ship that leave a faint trail of smoke or whatever that's green and purple like a cursed cannonball! These are cool ideas for stuff to do with damage! But just leaving the entire ship looking like bare blasted wood, with maybe some scorch marks from firebombs on top? Meh.

    In the end, the idea to be able to carry over damage is great for people who want it! But just don't make the rest of us pay for something that we haven't had to pay for for 4 years. Let people pay to repair mid-session if they want (since that actually repairs damage to the hull, capstan, wheel, etc) and let us choose if we want it to carry over without charging us. Please, Rare?

  • @iloveponies15 I'm never repairing my ships and not because I think it's a bad feature.

  • You know, if you're a PvP player that doesn't want to pay for the heavy amount of damage your ship takes, you may want to consider doing the unthinkable, boring PvE! 😱

    This is really a non issue in the grand scheme of things. Captaincy is very much needed gold sink update. So many things in Captaincy that will kill your gold totals and make grabbing those big steals just a little more engaging if you're short of a few million for some of those cherished trinkets. Paying to have your ship fixed is a luxury and a valid flaw to Captaincy, if you want your boat to stay pretty every launch, pay for it before you sail (which you can on the front-end menu, there's no way you're missing that while selecting ships, please don't tell me you're missing that).

    The price of the repairs increase for as much ship damage you take, and while yes, it's worth a couple captain's chests/mermaid gems, you also don't realize that you're probably spending money on purchasing cannonballs, wood, and food from the Merchant Alliance and Shipwright. That adds up if you're not gathering a lot of loot. In fact, if you're a solo sloop, you're probably losing more money on supplies since winning large loot hauls is more than beyond difficult by the crews usually guarding them well. Repairing your ship does then sound like an expense because you could be spending that gold on supplies for your next fight that you may not win.

  • @maximusarael020 100% right

  • @iloveponies15 old post I know but this is funny. There are rented ships that spawn in no damage, however you cannot repair them mid adventure. So if you perfer a pristine ship sounds like you may acutally like the captain ships. The captain ship is YOUR ship as others have said take care of it or don't. It's so cheap to fix. Plus all the added benefits of the captains. Me personally I like when my ship is all messed up. I took on all that damage and I'm still sailing :)

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