[Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?

Yes... 🙂

@d3adst1ck I never saw it as pitiful - are you buying low and selling high?

I simply stopped doing it because I found it rather tedious and boring. 😅

@sweetsandman said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@galactic-geek said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

I simply stopped doing it because I found it rather tedious and boring. 😅

Are you sure it wasn't because they nerfed them into the ground?

It's tedious, yes...but it was at least thrilling and somewhat pulse pounding before the nerfs.

Having over 100k of investment on your ship, being the only Merchant on the server, and then getting to the next outpost and seeing there's another Merchant on the server...not knowing if they'll be friend or foe if your paths cross...then heading towards the next outpost and seeing there's now a Reaper 1 roaming the seas as you've amassed another 30k+ worth of investment...then getting into a battle where you are at the absolute highest stakes and fighting for the loot you've got meaningful skin in the game on.

Man, I really miss pre-nerf commodities. Thanks alliance servers for ruining that for us!

I still make quite a profit despite the nerfs, and despite how dull it is, I often find it relaxing, since I can spend hours doing it without another ship interfering. By the time 1 eventually inevitably does, what I lose doesn't matter.

@sweetsandman said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@galactic-geek said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

I still make quite a profit despite the nerfs, and despite how dull it is, I often find it relaxing, since I can spend hours doing it without another ship interfering. By the time 1 eventually inevitably does, what I lose doesn't matter.

That's exactly my point. They took a high-stakes mechanic and nerf'd it to the point where it's just...casual...and you don't care if you lose it. This game has enough casual PvE on demand...it was nice having something for the players that enjoy a thrill.

In my mind, it was the same kind of thrill pre-nerf, which is to say, almost none at all - pirates still had to determine that you were transporting the commodities to begin with, and even after the fact, reconcile whether they themselves were willing to turn it in at a higher profit margin at a specific location.

@sweetsandman said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@galactic-geek said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

In my mind, it was the same kind of thrill pre-nerf, which is to say, almost none at all - pirates still had to determine that you were transporting the commodities to begin with, and even after the fact, reconcile whether they themselves were willing to turn it in at a higher profit margin at a specific location.

Seeing a Grade 5 Merchant pulling into an outpost, docking near to the Merchant trader, and leaving after less than 5 mins was a high probability they were running commodities. Took very little observation.

Either way, I'm just expressing my pre-nerf love for commodities. I'm guessing I'm not alone in that feeling given that I haven't seen a commodity crate in... gosh I can't even remember the last merchant I fought with commodity crates onboard. It's always lost shipment voyages now.

Only 5 minutes? It always took me about 10! Mustn't have been sailing solo like I was...

@sweetsandman said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@galactic-geek Eh I was mostly solo also.

I always had them stacked in "outpost piles" on the bowsprit and would sort of crash/wedge myself into the dock right by the merchant, drop off the pile, sell it, and then collect the next round dropping it at the foot of the merchant and harpooning from there. If you're following that method, I'm guessing you're doing it way faster than you think.

That sounds about right - I stacked them based upon crate type though, rather than Outpost.

Now I'm curious how quickly I can load/unload a set of commodities. Time to dust off that inventories book next to senior trader! For science!

For science! 🤓

@hijack-hayes said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

Kinda different, quite like the concept. Not sure you need tools like, maybe just a hold x to gather type deal?

I also like the idea of not using new tools, which would only complicate things, IMO.

My concern lies in where we would gather these materials? In a static, pre-made world, would these things always be found in the same, or similar locations, or would a bit of RNG be involved as part of the setup?

@bloodybil said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@galactic-geek said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

@hijack-hayes said in [Lethality Check] Would Gathering Raw Commodities Work?:

Kinda different, quite like the concept. Not sure you need tools like, maybe just a hold x to gather type deal?

I also like the idea of not using new tools, which would only complicate things, IMO.

My concern lies in where we would gather these materials? In a static, pre-made world, would these things always be found in the same, or similar locations, or would a bit of RNG be involved as part of the setup?

Hmm I dunno, how come you could dig only with a shovel but gather let's say, minerals with your hands?
What if you had to swap gathering tools? You can have only shovel/pick/sickle?
As for resources, I suppose they could have potential spots where they might spawn a bit like WoW ressource nodes?

When it comes to things like minerals, to get it without tools, I'd imagine it would already have to be loose - that way you could grab it by hand. Of course, digging it up with a shovel, or perhaps sorting it from a stream in your bucket could work too - at least that way, you'll be expanding upon the tools we already have. 😅