Gold multipliers were wrongly applied in Community Day. Here is what happened. [Math Inside]

  • BrWolf1806
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    Hey guys! I'm here to write a bit more about how some gold multipliers were wrongly applied in this Community Day. This happened exclusively when selling items at Gold Rush Hour and the Community Day multiplier was also up.

    So, the multiplier were the following: 3.5x more gold from the event and 1.5x more gold from the Gold Rush Hour. These multiplier together always worked fine in Gold and Glory weekends (which is 2x, not 3.5x), but I had a problem in this event specifically: When selling some high value items, I didn't receive the amount I should.

    When selling a 1k gem, I received 5.2k gold. This one is fine, since 13.51.5 = 5.2. But when selling a 10k item, like the Ashen Winds Skull, Gold Reaper Chest or even buying 10k gold from Larinna, I received 45k gold. This one is strange. For some specific reason I was not receiving 52k gold on high value items, but for low value items the multiplier was being correctly applied.

    My guess at what is possibly happening: There is a coded limit on how much gold you can earn from a single item, which is 45k gold. This is probably coded to avoid possible bugs. At no point in the past Rare imagined that they would be giving more that 45k gold in a single item being sold, but now that the gold multiplier reached a new record, this should be possible (but currently is not).

    At the end, me and my friends ended up losing more than 200k gold that we should have earned, most of it from buying gold from Larinna, but also happened every time we sold 10k items.

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  • El Spaniardchi
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    Huh! That's interesting.

    points sword

    Rare, explain yourself!

  • GrumpyW01f
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    @brwolf1806
    During Gold & Glory, with a R5 flag and the gold rush hour, you can sell a 10k item at reaper's hideout for 75,000. So I assume, if there's a problem with caps on items being sold, it would be that the base cost of an item can't exceed 45,000 gold. The problem is, a cooked Trophy Shadow Stormfish, during gold rush hour and Gold & Glory, would be worth 50,625, and a Box of Wondrous Secrets, with the same buffs, would be worth 75,000. So, these costs would (or should) be expected to be foreseen by the devs ever since Gold & Glory became a thing.
    I would say that there is specifically a problem with how the community day multiplier works.

  • BrWolf1806
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    @grumpyw01f Exaclty, I also think this is the problem, since when applying a 3x and 1.5x multiplier to 10k items, it gives us exaclty 45k. And yes, this math does not include the emissary bonuses, since it does not increase the base value itself.

  • CallMeBackdrafT
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    @brwolf1806 hmmm i have bought gold from larinna at 50 doubloons during gold rush and i received 52.500

    you are aware that the 3.5 multiplier had to be reached right ? it was a community emmisary grade system from I to V where IV only gave you 3x multiplier

    better yet i just sold a reapers bounty outside of goldrush with emmisary grade V reaper and received: 87.500 total

    but gathering from the 52.500 we can see it is applied as it should;

    original value; 10.000
    Community day value = original value * 3.5 (after that multiplier was reached) = 35.000
    Gold Rush Value = Community day value * 1.5 = 52.500

    in case of emmisary:

    Emmisary Grade V value = Gold Rush Value * 2.5 = 131.250 ( these numbers have been hit by people so the coding is correct )

    without Gold rush:

    Emmisary Grade V value = Community day value * 2.5 = 87.500

  • BrWolf1806
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    @callmebackdraft I was editing a reply to my post and you helped me here: After seeing some recordings of my friend buying gold from Larinna, we did receive 52k gold, but this was not the same value for the Ashen Winds Skull.

    My buyings from Larinna bugged and showed me no value on the upper right side of the screen when buying it, and I did the wrong math there, but when selling the skulls I got the 45k base value (no emissary included).

  • CallMeBackdrafT
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    @brwolf1806 i have sold an ashen winds skull and seen the correct values so i have no ideas what went wrong for you. honestly no clue. i spent most of my time during the last gold rush converting doubloons and it all worked out. still got 30k doubloons left though because the services where having a tough time handling all the requests of people selling loot and buying gold at that exact time.

  • BrWolf1806
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    @callmebackdraft Oh, and I also made sure to sell it after the event tab reached the max value. The thing is that when I sold it, I made sure that the event was maxed out when I pressed tab and went into the event tab, but SoT twitter or discord announced the max level of the event only a few hours after the event tab reached the max level, so I don't know if the max level was applied or not. The in-game tab was maxed, but it was not announced in any SoT socials yet.

  • BrWolf1806
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    @callmebackdraft I did some checking on their socials. The Gold Rush Hour that I used to sell my skulls happened 7 hours after the event begun, and I made sure the ingame event tab was maxed, and it was. But SoT socials only announced the max level of the event after 12 hours and 50 minutes after the event begun. The fourth level was announced in their socials before the Gold Rush Hour happened.

    I think this is what happened here: The level was reached but it was not automatically applied, and since they had a lot of issues with servers, this was delayed a bit and was only applied a few hours after it really hit the max level. The ingame tab was checking the twitter hashtags in real time, but the increase in multiplier was not happening in real time, it needed to be increased by someone manually after the twitter goal was hit. And a plus: If I do the math with 3x (which is probably the fourth level of Community Day), it turns out to be the value that I received.

  • CallMeBackdrafT
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    @brwolf1806 so that was something i noticed too, when they stated onsocials that the fourth grade got hit the ingame tab and the events hub on this website stated that grade V got hit. I even tweeted this at them with a screenshot from the site as evidence.

    i think this was somewhat of a issue with the tabs in game etc because later on (when i finally got in after 6 or so hours of trying total) the ingame tab and tab on the website got reverted back to only having grade IV unlocked and Grade V being worked on.

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