@herrdave3849 said in Emissary Reset?:
Hey, did anyone else's emissary ledger reset to zero, and were you given no rewards upon logging out and back in again?
I was in the gold-tier in everything except Athena's Fortune - I really hope that didn't get blasted out from under me by a bug D:
Gosh how I want those merchant ship pieces ;-;
They reset every month :) and according to the website
Trading Companies will distribute the rewards shortly after each monthly Ledger closes. Please allow up to 72 hours for this to happen.
Though I would give them to January 3rd or 4th at least.
@personalc0ffee Aaahhh
I was silver with Gold Hoarders this evening, so I raised the flag and rushed some chests - then when I went to look to see if I was safely in the Gold until the end of the evening I saw I was back at 0 with the same rewards listed
Darn near swallowed my heart xD
I suppose it's an actual toss of the coin whether or not I got the sails for that faction, then.
You can click on "Previous" to see where you ended up
https://www.seaofthieves.com/leaderboards/GoldHoarders/global
@glannigan said in Emissary Reset?:
I don't even mess with that emissary stuff.
Until they remove Alliance Server Farming the Enissary Ranking system as a whole is broken, trash, garbage.
It's as real as Social media...
This is completely false. If this were true, nobody (myself included) would have access to the rewards. This is why it is set up to be the top 25%. I’ve been able to get all ledger rewards with no problem. All you have to do is get around 500k value for companies and monitor your position which should not really change much at that value. If you don’t care for the rewards however, that’s entirely up to you.
@illbushido305 said in Emissary Reset?:
@glannigan said in Emissary Reset?:
I don't even mess with that emissary stuff.
Until they remove Alliance Server Farming the Enissary Ranking system as a whole is broken, trash, garbage.
It's as real as Social media...
This is completely false. If this were true, nobody (myself included) would have access to the rewards. This is why it is set up to be the top 25%. I’ve been able to get all ledger rewards with no problem. All you have to do is get around 500k value for companies and monitor your position which should not really change much at that value. If you don’t care for the rewards however, that’s entirely up to you.
Nor at all "completely false" - for each number of "Pirates" in a pre-made Pve-alliance server cheesing their way in the top tier is an equal number of Pirates who lose out on the cosmetics of the next tier for each Tier.
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It's not that difficult. Just focus on one Emissary a month and it takes about 4-6 hours to get that to a value that's enough to be awarded the top tier reward. Keep topping it up where you can and, even when not doing Emissaries, raise the flag when selling. Bushido is right, it's about 500K per company, a little more for Reaper and a little lower for Athena. That's 500K Emissary value, so probably around 200-300K gold made (base value).
I play with a couple of friends once a week for about 4 hours. Sometimes it gets cancelled because of other commitments and it was a lot less in December due to the time of year. They don't play without me but we still managed to get them in the top tier for two factions last month, whilst also having fun doing the new season stuff.
I played more solo but I rarely do solo Emissaries, only raise when I sell, and I managed to get 3 top tiers last month. I'm not even considered a hardcore player in terms of time played.
The rewards don't go away though, so there's no need to panic about getting in the top every month for every faction.
@lem0n-curry For starters you have a second round of time within the season to catch up. Second you don’t have to have excessive time. I personally don’t have a whole lot but getting to 500k is not terribly difficult.
@illbushido305 said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry For starters you have a second round of time within the season to catch up. Second you don’t have to have excessive time. I personally don’t have a whole lot but getting to 500k is not terribly difficult.
During the 2nd (or even 3rd) try, the PvE Alliance players are still in the Top Tier, as it would not be very efficient not to have an emissary up. Together with other players who may have already the award but need want more gold, making it harder for them to get in the Top Tier in an unfair way.
I don't have an issue in getting top Tier either but I play a lot :). Others play less and may want to do other things than just emissary. Players who never played much might see their haul at the bottom of the seas or ending up on another ship as well more often than you and your crew does.
IMO the PvE Allianve servers should be dealt with or, from the emissary viewpoint at least, taken out of the emissary competition (don't care if you make half a million each session as long as you don't complain about Rare not providing enough cosmetics to buy for the cheesed gold).
@realstyli said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It's not that difficult. Just focus on one Emissary a month and it takes about 4-6 hours to get that to a value that's enough to be awarded the top tier reward. Keep topping it up where you can and, even when not doing Emissaries, raise the flag when selling. Bushido is right, it's about 500K per company, a little more for Reaper and a little lower for Athena. That's 500K Emissary value, so probably around 200-300K gold made (base value).
I play with a couple of friends once a week for about 4 hours. Sometimes it gets cancelled because of other commitments and it was a lot less in December due to the time of year. They don't play without me but we still managed to get them in the top tier for two factions last month, whilst also having fun doing the new season stuff.
I played more solo but I rarely do solo Emissaries, only raise when I sell, and I managed to get 3 top tiers last month. I'm not even considered a hardcore player in terms of time played.
The rewards don't go away though, so there's no need to panic about getting in the top every month for every faction.
Not hard at all for a larger crew that is experienced. No disagreement there. And it's not difficult to keep up with rewards when you play from the start of emissaries (or when the 2nd set of rewards was introduced in Season 1). For a smaller less experienced crew with the same amount of playtime, I'm guessing it can be quite frustrating just ending up say 100 places below the cut-off line knowing there are more than 100 players who sail without risk and with more efficiency because of cheesing.
@realstyli said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It's not that difficult. Just focus on one Emissary a month and it takes about 4-6 hours to get that to a value that's enough to be awarded the top tier reward. Keep topping it up where you can and, even when not doing Emissaries, raise the flag when selling. Bushido is right, it's about 500K per company, a little more for Reaper and a little lower for Athena. That's 500K Emissary value, so probably around 200-300K gold made (base value).
I play with a couple of friends once a week for about 4 hours. Sometimes it gets cancelled because of other commitments and it was a lot less in December due to the time of year. They don't play without me but we still managed to get them in the top tier for two factions last month, whilst also having fun doing the new season stuff.
I played more solo but I rarely do solo Emissaries, only raise when I sell, and I managed to get 3 top tiers last month. I'm not even considered a hardcore player in terms of time played.
The rewards don't go away though, so there's no need to panic about getting in the top every month for every faction.
Im not a gambling man i but id place a lot of money on the fact you play way more than 1 day 4 hours... you have an account and are posting on the forums come on man get you point across but dont lie.
Also yea server alliances are puke.
EDIT yea you have 1351 days at sea 🤣
@hadtodoit
That's my forum time, not in-game, and it only measures the days of visiting not actual time spent here. I spend a lot of time browsing the forum during downtime in work. My actual in-game time is 76 days 10 hours since launch, which is very average.
@d3adst1ck said in Emissary Reset?:
@hadtodoit That's forum days. Nothing to do with game time.
I stand corrected then my apologies.
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It isn't really unfair though...
All those guys who maximise through alliances would still just maximize some other way outside of alliances. Alot of crews dedicate themselves to emissaries, alliance or not.
Nothing to do with being unfair, and more to do with the time you put in yourself.
Alliances contribute nothing value wise to another crews ledger. With or without alliance servers people would be out there for still apparently much longer than you, maximizing and making consistently progress over you If you want to achieve top percentage you really only have to put in the most basic of time, and then casually maintain it.
Alliances are irrelevant here, you're never really going to be competing
with an individual because they may have been in an alliance server.. what you'd really be arguing is unfair, is that more people regardless of alliance put more time into emissaries than you do.
@tre-oni said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It isn't really unfair though...
All those guys who maximise through alliances would still just maximize some other way outside of alliances. Alot of crews dedicate themselves to emissaries, alliance or not.
Nothing to do with being unfair, and more to do with the time you put in yourself.
Alliances contribute nothing value wise to another crews ledger. With or without alliance servers people would be out there for still apparently much longer than you, maximizing and making consistently progress over you If you want to achieve top percentage you really only have to put in the most basic of time, and then casually maintain it.
Alliances are irrelevant here, you're never really going to be competing
with an individual because they may have been in an alliance server.. what you'd really be arguing is unfair, is that more people regardless of alliance put more time into emissaries than you do.
What ? It's not unfair that with less time and less danger in losing their loot the PvE alliance servers don't impact the Tier other players get in because they would have put in enough time to get Top Tier anyway ?
Obviously they certainly would have less emissary value as they run the risk of losing, it would take more time so they will have to concentrate on less emissaries per month as well.
It would also decrease the value people have to get to, to get to Tier 1, thus the 1/week players could spend doing other things or more emissaries.
It's got all to do with unfair.
@tre-oni said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It isn't really unfair though...
All those guys who maximise through alliances would still just maximize some other way outside of alliances. Alot of crews dedicate themselves to emissaries, alliance or not.
Nothing to do with being unfair, and more to do with the time you put in yourself.
Alliances contribute nothing value wise to another crews ledger. With or without alliance servers people would be out there for still apparently much longer than you, maximizing and making consistently progress over you If you want to achieve top percentage you really only have to put in the most basic of time, and then casually maintain it.
Alliances are irrelevant here, you're never really going to be competing
with an individual because they may have been in an alliance server.. what you'd really be arguing is unfair, is that more people regardless of alliance put more time into emissaries than you do.
Poppycock.. How can farming with zero threat and getting a slice of every other ship on the servers loot not be unfair when they are on the same ledger as players that sometimes or often sail a whole session for nothing? Suppose it's a bit different for those who have sailed since launch but i'm pleased I have no interest in them..
At the very least rewards should be distributed equally amongst all ships in an alliance.
@tre-oni said in Emissary Reset?:
@lem0n-curry said in Emissary Reset?:
Sure, it's easy for regular players or players who play way too much to get in the Top Tier, but those that have 1 session/week or so and want to have rewards it's unfair.
It isn't really unfair though...
All those guys who maximise through alliances would still just maximize some other way outside of alliances. Alot of crews dedicate themselves to emissaries, alliance or not.
Nothing to do with being unfair, and more to do with the time you put in yourself.
Alliances contribute nothing value wise to another crews ledger. With or without alliance servers people would be out there for still apparently much longer than you, maximizing and making consistently progress over you If you want to achieve top percentage you really only have to put in the most basic of time, and then casually maintain it.
Alliances are irrelevant here, you're never really going to be competing
with an individual because they may have been in an alliance server.. what you'd really be arguing is unfair, is that more people regardless of alliance put more time into emissaries than you do.
No, because they would get wrecked and sunk by other ships!
You have a leader Board.
It compares people playing on Alliance Servers and people on real servers.....it's stupid! No defending this.
The top 100 + are 100% Alliance Players!!! Hell maybe the top 500
If the system excluded alliances, alliance servers servers, pve servers whatever you want to call them I would partake. Naturally, organically just by playing.
I have no horse in this race as I can careless about rewards and stuff but the facts are the facts and the system is garbage.
@glannigan said in Emissary Reset?:
the system is garbage.
It would be.. if it actually mattered who was top 100.
Only thing you need to hit is top 25% which is easily achieved through basic play.
I also like this notion that gets put out constantly that alliance server crews would get crushed if they played outside of them... the reality is.. alliance server crews are usually made up of the tryhards and sweats who only care about maximizing at that particular time.. and those crews spend hours chasing other ships around not in their alliance utterly dumpstering them in an attempt to push them out and make room for a potential free ship they can get someone else to join in on to lock it down.
They aren't doing alliance servers for the emissary or PvE rep.. They're doing it to make absolute bank. Outside of an alliance server.. more often than not I've seen plenty of those guys dumpster other crews, and they'd still be maximizing over you on their ledger regardless.
@realstyli said in Emissary Reset?:
@hadtodoit
That's my forum time, not in-game, and it only measures the days of visiting not actual time spent here. I spend a lot of time browsing the forum during downtime in work. My actual in-game time is 76 days 10 hours since launch, which is very average.
I would have so many more had certain events not happened.
Regardless, I see you all the time and you are a welcome sight! Abhoy.
@tre-oni said in Emissary Reset?:
I also like this notion that gets put out constantly that alliance server crews would get crushed if they played outside of them... the reality is.. alliance server crews are usually made up of the tryhards and sweats who only care about maximizing at that particular time.. and those crews spend hours chasing other ships around not in their alliance utterly dumpstering them in an attempt to push them out and make room for a potential free ship they can get someone else to join in on to lock it down.
That's not the only way to get PvE Alliance servers - other way is just keep trying to start on the same server, doubtful by "tryhards" and "sweats".
Also, the ones creating a PvE server aren't always the same ones profiting from it. Crews get replaced after a session of play. If not, I doubt that "spend hours chasing ships" and then the rest of the session is worth it that much, perhaps for their friends who join them.
I've never come across crews that wanted my ship for an alliance BTW, the otehr way of creating is probably prevalent.
They aren't doing alliance servers for the emissary or PvE rep.. They're doing it to make absolute bank. Outside of an alliance server.. more often than not I've seen plenty of those guys dumpster other crews, and they'd still be maximizing over you on their ledger regardless.
Sure there will be players that now cheese millions of gold that will be able to reach tier 1 with 1 or 2 million or several 100k worth of gold. There will also be players who only have limited time and will have to choose between emissaries which to do first - giving others a fair chance on getting those rewards. Just as there will be players who don't like to take the risk of sailing a high level emissary on the real Adventure servers, probably also people who won't sail at all anymore.
@personalc0ffee said in Emissary Reset?:
Regardless, I see you all the time and you are a welcome sight! Abhoy.
Ditto. Regardless of some disagreements on some topics, it's always heartwarming to see familiar faces around the forums and other places in the community.
@realstyli said in Emissary Reset?:
@personalc0ffee said in Emissary Reset?:
Regardless, I see you all the time and you are a welcome sight! Abhoy.
Ditto. Regardless of some disagreements on some topics, it's always heartwarming to see familiar faces around the forums and other places in the community.
Just wait until you see me in the game.
