Feeding the crimson sea

@icarusael others will call you a "bad sport" for doing this but, these are the same people who also say that "any loot on your ship isn't yours until it is chashed in" so, as far as I am concerned, you did the right thing.

If you every see me and mine on the ocean; we would depending upon crew be either sloop to galleon who aren't attempting to kill you usually with an ally flag raised from the get-go.

Sorry you had to lose your swag but, sounds like you got a fine story out of it so not a total loss :D

@icarusael

My question is: Is it safe to assume there was no way they could reach my treasure in the far deep red water, gather everything and leave with their prizes?

If you go far enough out into the red see then you will blackscreen and your boat will instantly sink. If you have max wind while sailing into the blackscreen then your boat will drift just a little farther into the red sea before sinking and despawning. So if your boat didn't have max wind when sailing into the red sea then it is possible that they can slowly inch forward and harpoon the loot out of the water. However if you were on a brig or galleon and had max side wind, then you would go far enough out that they couldn't harpoon all the loot.

So long story short, it depends on how fast your boat was going before you blackscreened.

Secondly, why did you run it into the red sea? If you're being chased by a boat you have a TON of advantages at your disposal. First thing that you can do is to jump off of your boat and try to board the enemy boat in order to anchor them and give your boat some distance. Worst case scenario is you die, but since your boat is still moving they can't do anything about it. If they seem to be pretty good players and are constantly knocking you off the ladder, send 2 people off to go board them. Board on the right and left ladder and make it difficult for them to kill both of you.

While you're going for board attempts, sail to an outpost and do a driveby sell. Take some of the best loot and jump off of the boat and climb onto the island. If you're far enough away from the other ships you can still sell your loot without having to fight people for it. Just keep sailing from outpost to outpost and jumping off to sell your loot. No reason to lose all the loot by running into the red sea just because someone is chasing you, fight back a little.

@kaijoi said in Feeding the crimson sea:

@icarusael

My question is: Is it safe to assume there was no way they could reach my treasure in the far deep red water, gather everything and leave with their prizes?

If you go far enough out into the red see then you will blackscreen and your boat will instantly sink. If you have max wind while sailing into the blackscreen then your boat will drift just a little farther into the red sea before sinking and despawning. So if your boat didn't have max wind when sailing into the red sea then it is possible that they can slowly inch forward and harpoon the loot out of the water. However if you were on a brig or galleon and had max side wind, then you would go far enough out that they couldn't harpoon all the loot.

So long story short, it depends on how fast your boat was going before you blackscreened.

Secondly, why did you run it into the red sea? If you're being chased by a boat you have a TON of advantages at your disposal. First thing that you can do is to jump off of your boat and try to board the enemy boat in order to anchor them and give your boat some distance. Worst case scenario is you die, but since your boat is still moving they can't do anything about it. If they seem to be pretty good players and are constantly knocking you off the ladder, send 2 people off to go board them. Board on the right and left ladder and make it difficult for them to kill both of you.

While you're going for board attempts, sail to an outpost and do a driveby sell. Take some of the best loot and jump off of the boat and climb onto the island. If you're far enough away from the other ships you can still sell your loot without having to fight people for it. Just keep sailing from outpost to outpost and jumping off to sell your loot. No reason to lose all the loot by running into the red sea just because someone is chasing you, fight back a little.

@kaijoi this is devious, underhanded, and BRILLIANT tactical advice! Will definitely be incorporating this as much as possible if I get the opportunity to haul away (I have, in the past, also gone the "suicide" route of jumping off ship with a powder barrel and releasing it in the keel of the chasing ship as it goes by to help it get that little bit extra wear an tear but, your tricks definitely seem more sound)

@rabbitsshadow

this is devious, underhanded, and BRILLIANT tactical advice! Will definitely be incorporating this as much as possible if I get the opportunity to haul away

If you're going to do something then do it well. That's one of my ways of thinking.

@icarusael

Well if you truly believe that you tried your very best to win the battle and that there was nothing you could do, then running into the red sea is a perfectly acceptable strategy for me.

Despawning in the red sea is lame, sorry. I will say joining your alliance just to betray your trust is a bit rude so I don't exactly blame you but I would never do it.

I can't imagine using the red sea just to deny someone else loot. Defenders have every advantage in the world, they always have an advantage angle to sail away in the wind, you can always sell loot and do drive bys on outposts or even do the unthinkable and turn to fight.

That's the main reason I can't respect the red sea tactic. When you already hold all the cards on whether to engage in the fight or not and you still choose to despawn... Not a fan personally. When it comes to me I often go out of my way to get loot on my ship above deck in plain sight just so people have a reward for sinking me - I can't relate to this at all.

TLDR: You wasted your time for nothing, but was also a bad sport by denying the chance of anyone else to have the loot you couldn't protect yourself.

Problem is I see this disgusting tacting more and more often, and I hate it. It's not that you ran away, because it's a tactic, but running into the red sea with the "I couldn't have it, so you can't have it either" is just childish, and wins you nothing. People who do this just cannot lose a fight, really.

@thekratex7201 said in Feeding the crimson sea:

TLDR: You wasted your time for nothing, but was also a bad sport by denying the chance of anyone else to have the loot you couldn't protect yourself.

Problem is I see this disgusting tacting more and more often, and I hate it. It's not that you ran away, because it's a tactic, but running into the red sea with the "I couldn't have it, so you can't have it either" is just childish, and wins you nothing. People who do this just cannot lose a fight, really.

Call the whaaaambulance. You couldn't catch them before they got to the red, you don't deserve it either.

@pithyrumble said in Feeding the crimson sea:

@thekratex7201 said in Feeding the crimson sea:

TLDR: You wasted your time for nothing, but was also a bad sport by denying the chance of anyone else to have the loot you couldn't protect yourself.

Problem is I see this disgusting tacting more and more often, and I hate it. It's not that you ran away, because it's a tactic, but running into the red sea with the "I couldn't have it, so you can't have it either" is just childish, and wins you nothing. People who do this just cannot lose a fight, really.

Call the whaaaambulance. You couldn't catch them before they got to the red, you don't deserve it either.

Problem is: you cannot really catch someone sailing into the shroud, always against the wind, on a sloop. And, the post was not about me. It was not me, who chased them, so please, don't say it like it was "my fault".

This tactic is still childish, and will always be childish imo. I experienced similar situations in kindergarten that I somehow still remember, so I'm not even really mistaken. Oh, and there's another thing here: I never said they deserved the loot more than OP, so your argument doesn't really have a point here now, sorry. Again: doing this tactic earns you nothing. You only waste your time by doing it, and it only shows that you are unable to lose.

@icarusael

(...) While this happened we hid on the side of the island and started gathering all the good stuff, we were almost 100% done when they spotted us and started chasing me (...)

Next time, (a) be less greedy, you could have enjoyed some of your loot and (b) be more observant when doing a world event (or just assume at least one ship will come and try to take hold of the loot).