I just don't see why ships need to have a limit of how many people you can have on them. It's not like a sloop will will grow more than two cannons, and its not like a brig will be a faster ship for having more people on it, and galleons are just big and majestic and should be able to have more than four people on them anyway, in my opinion.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!
Why need planks if you can simply bail quicker than the water flows in?
Why do crew sizes matter, it isn't like more people give you a combat advantage?... balance
@CotU42 I do see where you're coming from but for me personally I would just like an 8 person galleon because it means I can play with more of my friends at one time. I'm not really all for fighting people, I'd much rather do the story missions with multiple friends at once especially if they're new!
If its not possible to do this due to balance, they should at least consider allowing friendly ships to be in one server - i.e I have 3 friends on a galleon with me and then my 2 other friends are on a sloop on the same server.
I don't see how this would make much of a difference as its exactly like an alliance except you know the people you're playing with.I think at the very least it would introduce the game to a lot more players and for those people to enjoy a better and funnier experience with their friends.
It would also work potentially as a safety feature in dissuading the younger audience from playing in an open crew with strangers.Like I say, I'm all for introducing bigger crews into the game, but if it isn't possible they should at least consider the above as a workaround, IMO :)
Who cares about balance, a giant galleon should have a combat advantage over a tiny sloop.
It's already absurd that one gunpowder barrel can sink a galleon on its own.
It is all about balance. They are designed so that not everything can be done at once, so you have to prioritise what you do.
A sloop with 8 people would literally be unsinkable, you could have 2 on cannons, one on helm, one on sails. That leaves 4 people to bail/repair on the slowest sinking ship in the game......
Also a galleon is meant to be the signature ship, but because of how its practically impossible to maneuver effectively with just a four man crew, its practically the weakest ship. When it comes to practicality, the galleon is the least popular. When the galleon should really be the most popular as it is the signature ship of the entire game.
Ok, well @Iceman-D18 in that case have a sloop cap at 2 like it right now, a brig at 4, and a galleon at 8, have the ship crew size be the equivalent to the amont of cannons on said ship. I don't see the problem with that.
Any ship in the game is only as good as it's crew. Each ship has it's own advantages and disadvantages, designed to allow people the flexibility of decided what size of crew they want without feeling significantly disadvantaged.
Sure, the Gally is difficult to maneuver, but it has the most fire power and is the quickest with wind.
The Sloop is slowest with the wind, but fastest against it. It also has the best maneuverability.
The brig is sort of a jack of all trades. It sits in the middle in terms of speed/firepower.
You're kind of missing the point of prioritising when you propose increasing crew size. By your proposal, the Sloop stays the same, but both the Brig/Gally now have enough people to do the 4 fundementals (Cannons/Sails/Helm/Repairs) efficiently without having to priortise one? Firstly, how is that fair to the sloop crews? Secondly, by removing the requirement of priortisation, you're taking away tactical options for other crews. Do you think people throw firebombs because they cause massive damage?! No, it's because they very often distract crews enough to give the other crew the advantage. Why do you think all good crews just ignore fire?
Any increase in crew size throws the balance off.
The only way I'd like to see a bigger crew, would be a bigger ship. But given the limitations of the Gally in terms of speed against the wind/maneuverability, then anything bigger would just be too slow.
@booballoo513 said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
@CotU42 I do see where you're coming from but for me personally I would just like an 8 person galleon because it means I can play with more of my friends at one time. I'm not really all for fighting people, I'd much rather do the story missions with multiple friends at once especially if they're new!
Just because you do not like fighting people does not mean others will not do just that.
If its not possible to do this due to balance, they should at least consider allowing friendly ships to be in one server - i.e I have 3 friends on a galleon with me and then my 2 other friends are on a sloop on the same server.
I don't see how this would make much of a difference as its exactly like an alliance except you know the people you're playing with.Alliances are not extensions of ones crew, there is always opposing interests at play, betrayals are real and trust is shaky which can be used by others to cause an internal conflict to occur. This is not the case for a group of friends.
I think at the very least it would introduce the game to a lot more players and for those people to enjoy a better and funnier experience with their friends.
It would also work potentially as a safety feature in dissuading the younger audience from playing in an open crew with strangers.Like I say, I'm all for introducing bigger crews into the game, but if it isn't possible they should at least consider the above as a workaround, IMO :)
They are working on Custom servers that you will be able to purchase, where it is a creative area where you can go create the experience you want.
@minichadderzzz said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Who cares about balance, a giant galleon should have a combat advantage over a tiny sloop.
It's already absurd that one gunpowder barrel can sink a galleon on its own.
Gamers care about balance and if you do not see the benefit of being with 4 pirates.... and if your galleon sinks due to a single gunpowder barrel, then your crew is just bad as on my own I can recover from a single gunpowder barrel.
@gaythefairyhead said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Also a galleon is meant to be the signature ship, but because of how its practically impossible to maneuver effectively with just a four man crew, its practically the weakest ship. When it comes to practicality, the galleon is the least popular. When the galleon should really be the most popular as it is the signature ship of the entire game.
LOL, the reason the galleon is the least popular because it is harder to get 4 friends together in order to play....and you want to up the player count per ship? Oh my, that is rich!
All ships are balanced to accommodate a certain number of players. Your suggestion throws that all out the window.
As others have stated before this would completely bring the balance of each ship out of whack. Each ship has been specifically designed to support the maximum number of players allowed on it. Rare has talked about in the past that they've played with the idea of adding a bigger ship with 7 or 8 players BUT the ship would have to be completely designed from the ground up to require 7 or 8 people to sail it effectively. Thus making sure that 3 or 4 people can't just jump onto a sloop to take it over.
I understand the frustration of wanting to play with a larger group. I've had a group of 6 people in the past that would have loved to have played together but couldn't due to the restrictive ship sizes. Perhaps we'll see a larger ship in the coming years, I know it would make a lot of people happy.
@minichadderzzz said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Who cares about balance, a giant galleon should have a combat advantage over a tiny sloop.
It's already absurd that one gunpowder barrel can sink a galleon on its own.
only if the galleon is trash and brand new
It would dramtically unbalance the game. Each ship type is specifically designed for the max number of players allowed.
You can't have a balanced game with an 8 person galleon going against at 3 person Brigantine. Also, 8 people on a Sloop would be a chaotic mess.
Private servers with no gold or reputation are confirmed to be coming to the game, so this silly unbalanced kind of free for all stuff can happen in that space.
@minichadderzzz said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Who cares about balance
This is a bad take... Balance is an absolute requirement for an online multiplayer game to deliver a satisfying experience. The balance between the current ship sizes is fine and should not be tampered with by doing silly things like setting up 8 person galleons.
@minichadderzzz Not really, they're more of a annoyance to fix the 2-4 holes easily done by one person.
@gaythefairyhead said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Also a galleon is meant to be the signature ship, but because of how its practically impossible to maneuver effectively with just a four man crew, its practically the weakest ship. When it comes to practicality, the galleon is the least popular. When the galleon should really be the most popular as it is the signature ship of the entire game.
You must be doing something wrong or your group of 4 are just not doing jobs correctly.
Split the ship into four parts with alternates and rotations.But above this whole 8 man ship.
You only request this because you have that many friends who wish to play together? What about everyone who has 12? maybe 20? Or the lower who have just 5?Another point. You wish for 8 man ship. Over time your friends may and/or will get tired of the game. Now we have a wasted feature only a handful of people will use. Waste of resources to change and balance this out.
There are ways to do it. Unofficial ways and thats for the best.
Being a duo sloop or solo sloop going against an 8 crew ship, you wouldnt even need cannonballs. You could fire crew over like they are the cannon balls. It would be pretty ridiculous.
I think if we do get a manowar, its purely for npcs.
The way it is now any ship can fight any other ship type.
You aint gonna take out an 8 person ship in a crew of 2 unless more than half of thrm are noobs.
I dont wanna run from ships but running would be the only option in an 8 vs 2 scenario. Thats pretty unbalancing.Perhaps have these shipa as an arena mode like manowar battles or something. It would sap the fun out of adventure mode for the majority.
If i am forced to crew up, solo becomes unviable, ill just quit the game. Doubt id be alone too.
Freedom of playstyle is what keeps it fun. Not an enforced meta.
It would be so many issues if every ship could have 8 players.
Firstly; SHIP BALANCE. The ships are made so you have to choose what to focus on since you don't have enough crew-members on the ship to do everything at the same time. Having 8 people on the Galleon would just remove all the weaknesses almost entirely and it's easily the best ship in the game already with a decent 4-man crew.
2nd; PVP & PLAYER INTERACTION. If you are a solo Sloop doing your own thing and you see an other sloop in the distance and wanna try to engage them in combat and you roll up on them you notice it's a 8-man crew. How is that fun or fair at all?
When i see a ship i wanna be able to know how many players that may be on the ship to decide if it's worth the risk to engage them in PvP or leave them alone.Third and last point; NO.
@gaythefairyhead I see where you're coming from but I think the reason it wont happen is balancing issues maybe they can add a bigger ship then a galleon to allow 8 players but they should'nt allow it on a galleon or especilly on a sloop or brig
@gaythefairyhead sagte in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Also a galleon is meant to be the signature ship, but because of how its practically impossible to maneuver effectively with just a four man crew, its practically the weakest ship. When it comes to practicality, the galleon is the least popular. When the galleon should really be the most popular as it is the signature ship of the entire game.
You lack a good Crew and experience then.
Galleone is most powerfull ship in the right hands.@gaythefairyhead oh BOY this is gonna be fun, first off if you knew much about boats they have a weight and person limit so they dont sink such as sail boats can only carry 14 people or 2,520 pounds including motor,gears and passengers, all boats have them limit on a metal plate located on the outside of the boat, if this limit is not followed the boat will sink. the sloop can only hold a 2 man because it has to include the cannonballs, food, wood, and loot. if the sloop had gone over the 2 person limit and still included all of the stuff on the sloop that boat will sink. and 8 players on a sloop well an average man weights about 197 pounds in america so do the math and that weight total comes to 1,576 pounds excluding everything but the shipmates on board, so long story short this would not work because it would go against physics and would be annoying to all players
@stundorn said in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
@gaythefairyhead sagte in YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAX OF 8 PLAYERS IN A CREW ON ANY SHIP!:
Also a galleon is meant to be the signature ship, but because of how its practically impossible to maneuver effectively with just a four man crew, its practically the weakest ship. When it comes to practicality, the galleon is the least popular. When the galleon should really be the most popular as it is the signature ship of the entire game.
You lack a good Crew and experience then.
Galleone is most powerfull ship in the right hands.funny joke. nothing a gally can do, when boarded, anchor dropped, all masts down and 2 on cannons lol
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