Can we have an AFK timer warning?

@dlchief58 Not moving isn't the same as not paying attention. I'm not sure if you're just trolling by this point but I'm falling in repeat as you keep missing that phrase.

Refer back to my earlier example, if I'm hiding behind a rock using the Hide / Sleep emote while lurking for anyone trying to engage on an Event - before jumping on them when they're about to be done - then I'm qualifying for the AFK boot, without that I'm actually AFK. I'm still there, still paying attention. I'm just waiting and standing still. If that tactic somehow offends you as being idle and underservant of a spot in a player server that you somehow precepted belong to you, then that sounds like a you problem to me.

@wolfmanbush How exactly does a timer affect you personally? To where you are offended so much you refuse to allow one to be added.

@shy-reptar said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@dlchief58 said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@shy-reptar said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@uri5718 said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@dlchief58 Maybe let developers themselves decide whether a feature is worth their time implementing, they're the better judges of that.

Refering back to what I said, "not moving" isn't the same as "not present". There are many instances where you don't move, either by doing something else ingame, or when life calls for a quick moment.

Also, what are you constantly rampaging about "clogging up server space"? Like the heck man, are you assuming servers are made of 90's tech or something? Am I suddenly taking up a spot in a map you desperately want to play on or something? There's never been any form of queue or limited global capacity, so... haunting a suggestion threat about "clogging up other player's spots!" is petty and futile.

Seems like there's a superiority complex in here, as if SoT server space is an incredibly precious commodity only deserved by those who meet the standards of movement by a select few users on this forum. Just because I like to stare at challenges, stores, reputation, etc for too long sometimes doesn't mean I deserve to be completely booted from the game.

Don't you think a better solution would be for those actions to not boot you for being AFK since you are actually in game and (supposedly) doing something? But as a caveat, why are you spending 10 minutes shopping or checking stats, thus making yourself vulnerable to player (or environmental) attacks? Is it really that hard to back out and make some movement as 10 minutes is a very long time to not pay attention in an online, multiplayer game.

All these examples given to justify this are fringe cases and do not benefit the community as a whole to any great extent. As I said, I'd much rather have the developers work on something EVERYONE can use instead of some fringe cases that can't manage their time properly (or who would use it for less valid reasons as stated before...this would only encourage MORE players to adopt such play styles by making it that much easier). That is my opinion, could not care less if you agree or not nor do I feel superior because of it (I have other reasons for that, LOL!).

Well I've been saying all along that I don't see why anyone should get kicked while browsing challenges or stores but in lieu of changing that, a pop up timer would've helped me prevent getting kicked by popping out of the menu or store before it happens. As for the caveat of being vulnerable for looking at menus, that's my problem that I accept and I would pay for it if someone attacked me while I was doing that.

I obviously understand not wanting dev resources to be wasted on things that don't have benefit for the larger community as a whole but seriously, how much time and effort could actually go into having a message or something pop up on your screen saying "2 minutes until disconnected for inactivity" if your character has been standing still for 8 minutes? I won't pretend to know exactly what that would entail but I think it's nutty to assume that would require anything more than minimal effort from a single person.

The simple answer is that they simply would not want to do it.

The single reason most new pirates complain is being attacked. The single biggest reason for this is not paying attention to your surroundings.. It's not even like @COMBATxKITTY going afk while shopping at an outpost, you're talking about paying absolutely no attention to your surroundings whilst sailing.

Sorry, you can't play this game like that. They do not want people to play this game like that.

@dlchief58 said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@shy-reptar said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@uri5718 said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@dlchief58 Maybe let developers themselves decide whether a feature is worth their time implementing, they're the better judges of that.

Refering back to what I said, "not moving" isn't the same as "not present". There are many instances where you don't move, either by doing something else ingame, or when life calls for a quick moment.

Also, what are you constantly rampaging about "clogging up server space"? Like the heck man, are you assuming servers are made of 90's tech or something? Am I suddenly taking up a spot in a map you desperately want to play on or something? There's never been any form of queue or limited global capacity, so... haunting a suggestion threat about "clogging up other player's spots!" is petty and futile.

Seems like there's a superiority complex in here, as if SoT server space is an incredibly precious commodity only deserved by those who meet the standards of movement by a select few users on this forum. Just because I like to stare at challenges, stores, reputation, etc for too long sometimes doesn't mean I deserve to be completely booted from the game.

Don't you think a better solution would be for those actions to not boot you for being AFK since you are actually in game and (supposedly) doing something?

I agree with this. I do not understand why Rare kicks while scrolling through shops. I think a system to prevent that would be much better than a timer for sure.

But as a caveat, why are you spending 10 minutes shopping or checking stats, thus making yourself vulnerable to player (or environmental) attacks? Is it really that hard to back out and make some movement as 10 minutes is a very long time to not pay attention in an online, multiplayer game.

Well in all fairness me and my gal friend can spend easy 10 minutes in one shop. Yes we have sometimes had on just a couple occasions our ship sunk due to it lol but we really dont care. Once we start chatting away about outfits time gets away from us. Its part of the fun for us and as its a sandbox game we can spend an hour if we want and should not need to explain ourselves however with that said I will take responsibility if once we are done we find our brig at the bottom of the sea due to a passer by.

You are correct though it is abit of time to not be aware of surrounding , we typically hang out at the devils roar and Morrows peak is typically quiet well unless the volcano goes off lol.

@uri5718 said in Can we have an AFK timer warning?:

@dlchief58 Not moving isn't the same as not paying attention. I'm not sure if you're just trolling by this point but I'm falling in repeat as you keep missing that phrase.

You obviously aren't paying attention if you get an AFK boot, that is all I am going to say further on this subject. I will just leave it saying this is an unnecessary request that while it doesn't hurt anyone (except for those falling victim to a new influx of tuckers because it makes it easier) it benefits a very, very few. Fine if it is added as a QOL, but would rather they spend the time and money working on more substantial things - that is my problem with it.

@dlchief58 Of course you are. The AFK timer doesn't check if you are having the game active or not. It only tracks if your character model is moving or not. Changing camera angles during an emote like hide/sleep, or clicking through interfaces, registers the automated system as AFK, while you're still here.

@wagstr I never said anything about paying absolutely no attention to your surroundings while sailing. I said if I get attacked while looking at menus or stores, so be it, I've accepted that possibility. The fact that there are any menus, challenges, reputation, etc to look at would lead me to believe they do want people to look at that stuff and acknowledge it or it wouldn't be in the game otherwise. I don't see why someone deserves to be punished by the game itself for looking too long.

For the record, I've never actually been attacked while staring at menus or stores. I have ears, I know when something is going on around me even when I'm in a menu.

@wolfmanbush because your first and primary argument was about player behavior, not the actual suggestion. You kept addressing the suggestion as a community problem rather than a mechanical missfire.

@shy-reptar

TEN WHOLE MINUTES.

Ciao.

@wagstr Can you point on the doll where the AFK timer alert hurt you?

@mrat13 he doesn't/can't. He just doesn't conde behavior that's relatable to it because he opens to random people to his games, and likely got bad apples in his team that way, that is clouding his objectivity.

@wagstr Guy I spend way too much time looking at menus, challenges, stores, inventory, etc in basically any game that has it. It's the way I am, sorry.