What is bannable and what you think should or shouldn't be ban worthy

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@v-meli-v said in What is bannable and what you think should or shouldn't be ban worthy:

First I will start with spawn camping.
The majority of what I have heard has told me that spawn camping is not bannable. Lots of other people have told me that if you have zero plan on sinking the ship it technically counts as harassment and certain situations are bannable. Personally, I think to spawn camp in any situation should be fine because that's just how this game works you have to stop them from bucketing or you need to grab their supplies without them fighting back, or maybe you need weapon kills in the arena. But here is the other thing that should spawn camping with no plan of sinking the other ship count as harassment. In my opinion no, because it's almost impossible to tell the difference and even in adventure and arena you're getting PvP in the easiest way. I see how it could ruin the experience of newer players but you can scuttle and you can break camps if you know what you're doing. Since debating it looks extremely impossible whether it was a camp for a reason or just random harassment the answer is either yes or no.

I agree that players are only using the tools at their disposal, so it shouldn't be bannable to spawn camp. "Tools, not rules", as Mike Chapman always says. However, I do think mechanically it's still something Rare needs to address and fix, because it does turn players off the game.

Now Stream Sniping is the other important question.
What counts as stream sniping and what's bannable? Stream Sniping is almost impossible to confirm so there is no entire way to know for sure, but what happens if it's confirmed 100% stream sniping. In my opinion, you don't get enough advantages from sniping a stream to consider it cheating, and even in other games twitch makes you consent to know that people will be able to watch you play and may benefit from that. Another thing is queue sniping bannable trying to get into the same game as a streamer to fight them.

Not quite almost impossible but there are two scenarios that I see a lot when modding on Twitch. One is that you see a name enter chat (some chat apps, such as Chatty, can tell you when someone enters or leaves chat) and then an hour or so later they appear in-game with the same name heading directly for the streamer and always seem to be one step ahead... bit odd but, yeah, not 100% proof. The other scenario is the same but they then talk in chat afterwards "humble bragging" about beating the streamer... Now, that becomes a little more obvious what happened.

However, some streamers (thankfully, none that I mod for) throw out the accusation a bit too easily, I will admit. Rare, for their part, does require proof from the streamer, so it's really up to them how their investigations work if there are false positives. (I'm sure the linking of accounts now for Twitch Drops helps in that regard.)

General toxicity in-game chat.
There is really no good reason why this should be ok and it's extremely disappointing to see people who spam slurs when dying in an online pirate game. There have been people who have ddossing the entire arena lobby for trash talk/losing etc. The number of slurs used casually by a large count of the player base and goes unnoticed even after 20 reports with evidence to go along with it is too much. It's disappointing that stream snipe bans without evidence are thrown around so often and people who scream and rage in-game chat go unnoticed.

Slurs are absolutely bannable but I do think we need some way to report a player in-game - like a lot of modern games with PvP. This is something we've called for for a long time now. The current way to report players is too much hassle for most people to bother, so the issue has grown to a point where a lot of those toxic players get away with it.

If the game can do speech to text, it has the means to indentify words, which could narrow down the search for evidence on the enforcement side as well.

@v-meli-v What is or should be bannable is violations of the ToS. Anything else is fair play. How hard is it to read the rules? You break the rules, you get in trouble simple as that. Shouldn't need discussion.

Spawn camping in adventure isn't bannable because you have the option to scuttle your ship and respawn else where.
Spawn camping in arena is tolerated because other players can break the spawn camp and should if they are trying to win. However, it does ruin the experience if you are spawn camped and no other crews get involved.

Anything that breaks the ToS is bannable. This includes hacking, toxic language(racism, etc.), or toxic play(trolling your own crew in open crews, afking in open crews, etc.).