We need a strictly console only everything. Water tight.. a preference mode is not effective.

To be honest I’m not exactly sure what your talking about. There are Xbox Only Servers, the Only Times I get put into PC servers are when an Xbox Only Arena Lobby Cannot Be Found and In that Case You Would Know That You are in a Cross-Play Lobby because it Would Say in the Top Left Corner “Sailing the Seas with All Players”. It is only in very rare occurrences that A PC Player Manages to Glitch Their Way into an Xbox Only Server and In That Case You May Report Them. I’ve Never Been Put into an Adventure Lobby with a PC Player with “Xbox and Controllers Only” Activated. It only seems to happen arena and like I said, you could just leave server when it shows in the Top Left that your in a cross play lobby.

@boogyghost101

This is a good point, I've never actually kept tabs on what it says at the top left of the screen. I just select x box only as a preference and hope for the best. Lol

I think we can both agree that the player type I'm talking about is easily identifiable though. It's not like I'm so inexperienced and hopeless at pvp that I'm throwing my toys out of the crib for getting beat haha There is a clear identifiable and visual difference between pc and console in game.

@en1gma-412 of course I completely agree, I’ve been in PC arena lobby’s before without realizing and I’ve ended up figuring out that I was in a pc lobby when I get suspiciously destroyed and then check recently played with to find out that my killer was a PC player. Thank God Rare added Xbox Only Servers, I wouldn’t play if they didn’t.

I'll keep this advice in mind next time I'm in and keep a hawk eye on the top left corner there.

Personally I think it would just be easier if there was a watertight x box only mode for wverything that didn't automatically throw you into cross platform for whatever / any reason you know?

@en1gma-412

We need a watertight x box only option for arena with a 100% guarantee we will be playing with other x box players exclusively. I know adventure mode is supposed to be like that but there have been a few encounters where rival players have simply been able to move faster and seem impervious to damage so I'm not sure its as watertight as it thinks it is.

Pc players can't physically move faster, nor are they impervious to damage. We connect to the same servers. Xbox's are just budget pc's, they aren't some magically different product. Inside every Xbox is the same guts that a PC has, except its hobbled in what features are accessible to the user.

The thing that frustrates me about this whole conversation is that PC has to deal with hardware disparity every day. The range of PC's that players will run into are so diverse in hardware capability that there is a high chance everyone is at a different level of "Advantage." Yet, here is the thing, PC players simply don't care. You will never see someone lose and start ranting in chat that the only reason they one is because they have higher frames, a mouse with more buttons than a plane, or a chair with proper lumbar support that can incline 180 degrees. PC players are just numb to this rallying cry from the Xbox community. I think they are starting to notice it now with the variation of Xbox's, but you won't see them complain about that hardware disparity.

The system we have works as intended. If you have a large enough player pool, you won't have to worry about those pesky PC players. There is no need to even discuss this furthur, as long as the current system functions you should have nothing to worry about. Server merging should hypothetically keep servers topped off assuming it works.

@glannigan cronus zen

@en1gma-412 yea man same here because to be honest, I’d rather not play at all then play with PC players.

@glannigan that’s true, Sea of Thieves won’t allow you to connect a keyboard and mouse when having “Prefer Xbox Players with Controller Only” Enabled.

@nabberwar it’s never the system that’s the problem, it’s the difference between controller and Keyboard + Mouse, that’s what Gives Console players a larger disadvantage.

@boogyghost101 said in We need a strictly console only everything. Water tight.. a preference mode is not effective.:

@glannigan that’s true, Sea of Thieves won’t allow you to connect a keyboard and mouse when having “Prefer Xbox Players with Controller

Not entirely true.

Whilst sea of thieves wont let you, there is ways to play on the xbox preferenc with K+M

@boogyghost101

@nabberwar it’s never the system that’s the problem, it’s the difference between controller and Keyboard + Mouse, that’s what Gives Console players a larger disadvantage.

I don't know if you were here in the earlier times, but I've heard every excuse under the sun to justify opt out by console players. I've heard Framerates, KbM, SSD, graphics, pc players get special powers not afforded to console like more damage and faster speed, etc. The only conclusion I get from that is regardless of what it is, people will find excuses to justify their loss. One thing for certain, there is ZERO inflection about their own disparities within their community.

People moving faster and not taking damage isn't a pc thing, it is the game being terrible at handling pvp. I would recommend changing your controller sensitivity to something way higher like I did and I can confirm it makes a difference. Also your comparison to players with pvp titles isn't always accurate, I fight legendary sea dogs all the time and not all of them are good.

All of this post is a lie, straight up, PC players dont move faster, they dont hit harder, if your hits are missing or it seems like they tanked it, that would be the "hit detection" which is a server problem and will happen to you against xbox players.

The only thing that seems to make a difference with a mouse is the fine control for FPS games when aiming and you can be accurate with it, that would have nothing to do in this game when aiming cannons or sailing a ship and spamming someone with a sword.

Also as others have stated, up your sensitivity on your controller so you can turn faster, thats what PC players do, as i get use to a certain speed, i up it and keep getting better moving faster.

You can buy a PC if you want sharper graphics and the better availability of "mods" for certain games, not to suddenly become magic at PVP on this game, get better with your controller and up the sensitivity, my techy friend who has a VR PC uses a controller so he can sit on his couch, he plays games just fine.

Like other said fix the controller sensitivities. Do not do it all at once of course, build it up. My friend plays on PC and he moves faster than me who also plays on PC but its because his mouse sensitivty is turned up super high. I play on controller on pc and keep mines medium because 1) im not competitive in PvP in this game so I dont care and 2) this game already gives me motion sickness so I dont want to be moving too fast.

Devs mainly play on Xbox so I doubt they're too worried about it.. Watching them stream right now, they're on mixed servers.

Even though I play PC I will state for the record I think a good controller player will stand up well against anyone.

@needsmokes said in We need a strictly console only everything. Water tight.. a preference mode is not effective.:

@En1gma-412

Ps: Take absolutely no notice of everyone telling you there is no difference.
Optout was implemented for a reason after all 😉

To give the complainants a pacifier.

@nabberwar you are correct in the hardware I think.

However I think it's down to people being more fluid and comfortable with keyboard and mouse vs controller.

I've played warzone with controller and keyboard and mouse and I am a completely different played with a keyboard. I can move better, aim better and everything.

If only there was a way to connect it to xbox 😁😁

No we don't. Preference mode is good enough.

Most of the friends I've made through this game play on Xbox. With the addition of the preference mode, I have already lost a portion of them because I can't join their crews anymore since I play on PC....despite the fact that I prefer using a controller on this game even on PC.

If an only console version is made, I'd lose all my console player crews.

@en1gma-412 said in We need a strictly console only everything. Water tight.. a preference mode is not effective.:

I hate to be that guy but Arena is really boring when you end up playing with pc gamers. I'm not complaining, I'm not anti pc. PC is great! Often you have higher resolutions, frame rates and the overall performance of gameplay for competitive games is fantastic. Its just not all of us can get a gaming pc that's up to the job or want to and so we are stuck with the old faithful console and controller combo, which is just technically not capable of outing the same kind of performance you can achieve using a pc. As I type this I'm almost tempted to get a pc and just give up on x box but I dont think I could endorse sea of thieves any more if I felt driven to altering my hardware to play the game to make arena an even playing field 100% of the time. (It would not be an even playing field if I did anyway because I would then have the same unfair advantage over console users.)

those advantages are honestly next to none aim is the only thing that might tip the scales a bit

but other than that its completly dependant on what specs one has

i know im at a disadvantage 80% of the time and its my potato rig vs bad rig and anything above really

but thats only because i lag oof the lag fits i have sometimes

I'm certainly not the only one who feels this way. It really shouldn't be like this and I think it's kinda inconsiderate on behalf of the developers to even allow cross platform at all without giving us x boxer's a watertight console only mode as a reliable option, assuming they are fully aware that pc players is by far, way over advantaged in their game and tend to abuse those who cant put up a fight against skynet's T1000 terminator's that will not rest until we are dead, over and over and over again lol.

it wasn't inconsiderate of rare not to add the option from the getgo

it was your hype train that got you fooled i rarely ever pre-purchase a game unless i know 100% exactly what i'm getting myself into

and it seems you got an option to sail with xbox players if there are enough to fill out a server which it seems there isn't which is why you end up with pc players

next time don't pre-order out of hype and blame the developers for being "inconsiderate" when really its you who should start doing some research into the games you buy for the ultimate gaming experience sorry but not sorry :/

I'm a veteran player. I had this game pre ordered in advance of its release for something like 3 years? and didn't take part in the pioneer program because I didn't want to spoil for myself what would come in the official release. I have 2606 gold hoarders chests cashed in, I've sailed 10217432 meters. Ive completed 792 voyages, I've turned in 2329 skulls to the order of souls, I've delivered 2316 merchant items and visited the islands 6297 times, and I've had countless pvp victories as well as defeats. All this was done while I was working full time and had a lot of real life going on, so I'm not saying I'm a big fan, experienced or a veteran player arbitrarily here. Some of my most memorable gaming moments have been on sea of thieves and I loved a lot of the old rare games growing up but cross platform has just destroyed the even playing field in this game since its inception and I think that its inconsiderate to players like myself who have been around since the start and invested a lot of money and time into the game. I just feel ive been slapped across the face. The slightest chance of being placed in a mode where people with a technical advantage can come in and literally run circles around us who have spent less time, less money and less energy into the game should be an option and I know categorically, most x box players would stick to x box servers based on the unpleasant experience of cross platform in a game such as this.

so you pre-ordered paid little to no attention to whats to come with the game on its release think im starting to see a pattern here

honestly i'll say this again as much as its fun to keep information hidden about a game but buying it and knowing very little about it then going on to call the developers inconsiderate just isn't fair

is just stupid its like going to the groccery store closing your eyes and picking a random product hoping its the right one you need and then blaming the staff that the product YOU picked out isn't the product you wanted

We need a watertight x box only option for arena with a 100% guarantee we will be playing with other x box players exclusively. I know adventure mode is supposed to be like that but there have been a few encounters where rival players have simply been able to move faster and seem impervious to damage so I'm not sure its as watertight as it thinks it is. Then again, maybe I'm rusty in that regard. (I'm actually not certain adventure mode is at all watertight from pc players at all to be honest.

if there are enough xbox players to match you into a lobby then you would have no pc players at all in your lobby thats how the preffrence works

it matches you with other xbox players if they're available and if they're not BOOM pc players come in to fill the void simple

you'd be sailing with one or two other ships it needs to fill up the server thats the number one prio

I dont mind losing in a fair fight. That's fine. But we are not getting a chance half the time and lets face it, a lot of the players that have all these combat related commendations, titles and in game accolades have an unfair advantage. It's like sitting in a poker game and your opponents having a few extra decks of cards to themselves so they can go all in at every turn.

Rant over.

P.s. I don't mean to boast and Yes I know, "get good". I wish my x box could morph into a super gaming PC now and then so I could show you how experienced and good I can be but this thing only goes as fast as it will go lol. Give us a console exlusive mode rare. For all the time and money us x boxer's have spent on your game, it's only fair right?

and i wish my pc could grow to become a full fledge super gaming rig and instead of remaining a potato

and for gods sake another one of these xbox only rants thought we we're done with this

and no just because people own a computer does not mean everyone has a super ultimate godlike gaming rig

man i have a potato rig that can barley run the game on anything higher than cursed

when money's tight you get what you get

and with an xbox everyone gets the same thing that they can upgrade with gadgets and other things

pc's however oh gods no super expensive parts if you want good stuff hell even the okay-ish decent stuff is pricey and thats only for ONE part out of a couple of other things like ram graphics cards motherboards cpu processors etc ALL of them are pricey

in the pc world you get your money's worth don't have alot of money you don't get that sweet nvidia gtx 1080 you been eyeballin' because it was semi cheap on the market that one day and when you finally saved up enough money it doubled in price you know the typical issues

and finally this might solve your problem your playing a mode that never really lived sadly thats the truth

friend tells me he hasn't meet a pc player in 2 weeks in adventure tho

he met a crew of mixed once they had a great time drinking grog and doing alliance stuff but thats because he played at inactive hours ig