Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.

  • There is an indie pirate game that looks like SOT and works very similarly but full of bugs and nowhere near complete and doesn't have the polish SOT has.

    It's a pirate battle royale mode which would serve as a much more fun and better arena game mode.

    How it works is unlike any other battle royale.

    You have the entire map of SOT.
    Your ship spawns at random places.
    You have limited resources and no weapons.

    You must go from island to island gathering supplies but also picking up weapons. Your swords and guns have limited durability. Grab them and store them in gun locker like a regular resource.

    You can respawn upon death but lose whatever you have on you weapons too. But ship death eliminates your entire crew.
    Collecting swords and guns is important lest you want to spawn with no means to attack people except your fists which are not very powerful.

    The shroud starts to close in over time.

    Inevitably ships will be brought together by the shrinking map.

    Finally at the end, the shroud is small enough to accommodate a 1 vs 1 ship battle. Not too big and not too small.

    Final ship surviving wins.

    To mitigate the tedium of trips back and forth to your ship, there is a much bigger limit of how much items you can hold. Up to approx stacks of up to 50. But you will best store it in your barrels on the ship as you drop all you carry!

    Forget collecting chests and whatnot, arena should be survival of the fittest. The game mode takes so long to get going I think it would be much better to be replaced with something everybody could enjoy.

    Plus, who doesn't like last crew standing?

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  • @daringclarky I'd rather just find supply crates on the islands instead of stupid pocket sizes

  • @daringclarky I'm down for this except for weapon durability. I don't know any battle royale that does this, and I feel like it'd be more annoying than anything. 'm fine with finding weapons on islands, and even different rarities, like sailor being the worst and legendary being the best.

  • Not in favor at all
    One of the better things about arena is that it's a small map with 'infinite' supplies. This means I don't have to worry about things like running out of cannon balls/food and having to chase people across a huge map.

    Also some of us prefer boarding and enjoying the 1 on 1 battles without worrying too much about the ship, your idea will make it so we'll quickly run out of opponents.

    Btw Arena doesn't take long at all if you're on a sloop, only galleons take a bit long to start and that seems reasonable.

    Bottomline is don't think everything has to be a 'battle royale', and games that ripoff others while also trying to get on the battle royale 'hype train' should sink like the ships in their games.

  • If I wanted to play battle royale, I'd be playing a battle royale game...

  • @daringclarky you could always pay blazing sails

  • @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    If I wanted to play battle royale, I'd be playing a battle royale game...

    There isn't any need for the condescending tone via the 3 dots...

    You telling me current arena mode is better than my idea? Because all I see in arena is the npcs taking forever to actually find a crew to sail. Its practically unplayable.

  • @basicdust822138 said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky you could always pay blazing sails

    That's not the point I'm trying to make. I want to improve arena because its waiting room simulator at the monent

  • @ahlahumus said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    Not in favor at all
    One of the better things about arena is that it's a small map with 'infinite' supplies. This means I don't have to worry about things like running out of cannon balls/food and having to chase people across a huge map.

    Also some of us prefer boarding and enjoying the 1 on 1 battles without worrying too much about the ship, your idea will make it so we'll quickly run out of opponents.

    Btw Arena doesn't take long at all if you're on a sloop, only galleons take a bit long to start and that seems reasonable.

    Bottomline is don't think everything has to be a 'battle royale', and games that ripoff others while also trying to get on the battle royale 'hype train' should sink like the ships in their games.

    What you said there about Galleons. That's why I propose it.

    Galleon arena is really hard to get going. So I think a new game mode would refresh it. Because frankly as it is at the moment it's awful.

  • rare have said things in the past that lead me to believe that they will never go that direction with arena. they have nixed any suggestion to eliminate crews or players, and they are insistent on having a mechanic (the chest) that enables a team to mount a comeback from behind.
    id love to see some sort of 'last man standing' arena mode, but its never going to happen.

  • @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

  • Maybe if said game gets enough interest and support it will become more like the game you'd like it to be. Having some more options is always nice.

  • Why ask Sea of Thieves to devote resources and development time to conform to a dumb trend when you could let this other game arrive at the same level of polish you're looking for? You're going to be waiting either way.

  • A battle royale could probably done pretty easily without changing much about how the games systems already work. Player load outs could definitely stay the same, but mostly empty ships and islands full of increasingly powerful resources would be the way to go.

    Small islands would have lots of basic loot: cannonballs, planks, low tier fruit like bananas and coconuts.

    Medium islands would have medium tier loot showing up more often: Throwables, the less impactful curseballs, regular kegs, and mid tier fruit like pomegranates and mangoes.

    Large islands would have storage crates of low tier loot and many small pockets of medium to high tier loot: the more impactful cursed cannonballs, wraith balls, cooked fish, mega kegs, and pineapples.

    Messages in a bottle could give maps with the locations of hidden caches of storage crates filled with goodies and there might be a few publicly know caches sort of like the cargo drops in other BR's filled with really good loot.

    I'd also restrict maps to one or two regions only rather than the whole map. It'd be way easier to draw players together that way

  • @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

    Can you replicate this and tell me how? Every time you wanna play can you just hop on in open on a Galleon?

    If you can it must be something to do with regions because I tried 7 games in a row. When I got in finally, was only 2 of us on a Galleon and we ended up quitting.

    I can't be bothered to keep trying for a single match. What do u do?

  • @daringclarky

    Yeah trying to play Galleon arena is a terrible experience even with closed crew.

    A few days ago I finally got a crew together after 45 minutes with LFG and then it took another hour to find a full lobby. When we actually found a lobby it was TDM'ers who trolled us for another 45 minutes because we didn't want to requeue for God knows how long. After deciding to requeue because we weren't getting reinstanced with different folks, we got another half full lobby 15 minutes later. This was at 5 or 6 CST. This is peak American hours here. I spent 2 and a half hours in arena and only played 5 matches. More than a third of my time was spent waiting in a lobby and all of my games were bad.

    With open crew, forget about finding a full lobby. I've gotten one completely full lobby in Galleon Arena as an open crew player. Ever. It doesn't matter how many times you requeue, every lobby is like this. Each one is half full and waiting for a game to start.

    Arena is something I want to play every day, but it's just not fun to spend hours of my time waiting for games and being rewarded for my patience with empty lobbies and poor matchmaking.

  • @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

    Can you replicate this and tell me how? Every time you wanna play can you just hop on in open on a Galleon?

    If you can it must be something to do with regions because I tried 7 games in a row. When I got in finally, was only 2 of us on a Galleon and we ended up quitting.

    I can't be bothered to keep trying for a single match. What do u do?

    I don't play galleon arena, for starters. 😅

    With a friend, in duo sloop arena, we were able to play something around 5+ matches back to back with nary even 5 minutes between them when I made that last post.

  • Sea of Thieves missed a huge opportunity for a Pirate based battle royal to tap into the market.. it would have been amazing, different and fun but instead they went with the current iteration of Arena.. oh well.

  • Game can't handle more than 5-6 ships, nowhere close to battle royale.

    Xbox players made the game what it was (popular f2p title with game pass), but they also made it a living relic of hardware limitations.

    Sea of Thieves will never grow to be the game it was meant to be, because it was never meant to be anything more than a sandbox game with pretty water and ship physics. Hence the criticism at launch for lacking content, and the continued lacking of meaningful content to this day.

  • @calicorsaircat

    Blazing sails is only about as many ships. Also with a small enough map, it could definitely work.

    of course your right though, more people would probably be better, and its a shame the Xbox weighs it down.

  • @DaringClarky While I agree Arena is not in the best place right now due to high cannon points and farming. I still do not believe this is the right way to improve it. I think Rare should just nerf cannons back to 25 points or decrease points gained from repeatedly firing at the same ship. However I don't think this would be Arena at its best.

  • @awyrlas I agree, I think the best way for Rare to proceed at this point is to release smaller & new maps.

    Rare is ridiculously lazy for repurposing the adventure map and should be ashamed.

    Attack and defense would be awesome with 3 attacking ships, 2 defending ships + players on a fortress.

    Also would be down for just 2v2 team deathmatch style.

  • There is an indie pirate game that looks like SOT and works very similarly...

    Are you saying there is such a game? ...an independently produced game?

    If so, what is it called, and why are you posting here? Just go play that game, if it is the game you want to play?

  • No thank you I hate battle royals I don't want to be turned off sot if this actually happened alot of people would probably not play it battle royals are the same boring thing like apex fortnite and warzone

  • And also 100 people in xbox only yh that would happen

  • @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @ahlahumus said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    Not in favor at all
    One of the better things about arena is that it's a small map with 'infinite' supplies. This means I don't have to worry about things like running out of cannon balls/food and having to chase people across a huge map.

    Also some of us prefer boarding and enjoying the 1 on 1 battles without worrying too much about the ship, your idea will make it so we'll quickly run out of opponents.

    Btw Arena doesn't take long at all if you're on a sloop, only galleons take a bit long to start and that seems reasonable.

    Bottomline is don't think everything has to be a 'battle royale', and games that ripoff others while also trying to get on the battle royale 'hype train' should sink like the ships in their games.

    What you said there about Galleons. That's why I propose it.

    Galleon arena is really hard to get going. So I think a new game mode would refresh it. Because frankly as it is at the moment it's awful.

    You do realize it takes longer to get going because less people want to play on a galleon, right? It's not the mode, just the people preferring sloops. I don't see how your idea will benefit the galleon part

  • If anything it'd be better if Rare improved the matchmaking for galleons so that it'll be more effiecent and load faster

  • The matchmaking for galleons is truly truly truly horrible to say for the least.

  • @ahlahumus said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @ahlahumus said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    Not in favor at all
    One of the better things about arena is that it's a small map with 'infinite' supplies. This means I don't have to worry about things like running out of cannon balls/food and having to chase people across a huge map.

    Also some of us prefer boarding and enjoying the 1 on 1 battles without worrying too much about the ship, your idea will make it so we'll quickly run out of opponents.

    Btw Arena doesn't take long at all if you're on a sloop, only galleons take a bit long to start and that seems reasonable.

    Bottomline is don't think everything has to be a 'battle royale', and games that ripoff others while also trying to get on the battle royale 'hype train' should sink like the ships in their games.

    What you said there about Galleons. That's why I propose it.

    Galleon arena is really hard to get going. So I think a new game mode would refresh it. Because frankly as it is at the moment it's awful.

    You do realize it takes longer to get going because less people want to play on a galleon, right? It's not the mode, just the people preferring sloops. I don't see how your idea will benefit the galleon part

    Well then it's clear that Galleon mode is not very popular. So if anything you just proved my point. That is should go because of low player count and be replaced with something that would be more popular.. Doesn't need to be my mode, but just any mode that lets toy actually jump into the game on a gally.

    Sloops are small and nimble.
    I want a big ship with a big crew mode.

  • @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

    Can you replicate this and tell me how? Every time you wanna play can you just hop on in open on a Galleon?

    If you can it must be something to do with regions because I tried 7 games in a row. When I got in finally, was only 2 of us on a Galleon and we ended up quitting.

    I can't be bothered to keep trying for a single match. What do u do?

    I don't play galleon arena, for starters. 😅

    With a friend, in duo sloop arena, we were able to play something around 5+ matches back to back with nary even 5 minutes between them when I made that last post.

    The experience in a sloop is far different to a gally. That's hardly a viable solution.

    You're a smart guy. Even you know that arena has so much more potential than duo slooper fighting each other or gally dentist waiting room simulator.

    They should scrap gally mode if the player count is reliably low and replace it with something new.

    Sloop mode is fine, but big ship battles with multiple crew is really fun and they are a darn sight rare in Adventure mode there days. Just sloops and brigantines mostly.

  • @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

    Can you replicate this and tell me how? Every time you wanna play can you just hop on in open on a Galleon?

    If you can it must be something to do with regions because I tried 7 games in a row. When I got in finally, was only 2 of us on a Galleon and we ended up quitting.

    I can't be bothered to keep trying for a single match. What do u do?

    I don't play galleon arena, for starters. 😅

    With a friend, in duo sloop arena, we were able to play something around 5+ matches back to back with nary even 5 minutes between them when I made that last post.

    The experience in a sloop is far different to a gally. That's hardly a viable solution.

    You're a smart guy. Even you know that arena has so much more potential than duo slooper fighting each other or gally dentist waiting room simulator.

    They should scrap gally mode if the player count is reliably low and replace it with something new.

    Sloop mode is fine, but big ship battles with multiple crew is really fun and they are a darn sight rare in Adventure mode there days. Just sloops and brigantines mostly.

    I would like to see more, certainly, but only if it's done properly. I'm also worried about more modes further splitting the playerbase. Honestly, just allow for brigantines and mixed ship battles in Arena, and I'd say that's about all that's really needed.

  • @daringclarky just about 70% of what you described is called "Adventure Mode". It's the mode directly left of the Arena game mode. I like the idea of replacing Arena forsure. But because what you described is essentially adventure mode with an arena twist I dont think they'll go for it. If someone wants to search for ships to sink with something to actually gain they will play adventure. If someone wants easy sinks and to practice a new weapon choice or cannon aim they will choose arena. Make arena too much like adventure mode and people might wake up to how much better adventure mode is for PvP.

  • @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @galactic-geek said in Replace Arena with Ship Battle Royale.:

    @daringclarky I'm playing it just fine right now. 😉

    Can you replicate this and tell me how? Every time you wanna play can you just hop on in open on a Galleon?

    If you can it must be something to do with regions because I tried 7 games in a row. When I got in finally, was only 2 of us on a Galleon and we ended up quitting.

    I can't be bothered to keep trying for a single match. What do u do?

    I don't play galleon arena, for starters. 😅

    With a friend, in duo sloop arena, we were able to play something around 5+ matches back to back with nary even 5 minutes between them when I made that last post.

    The experience in a sloop is far different to a gally. That's hardly a viable solution.

    You're a smart guy. Even you know that arena has so much more potential than duo slooper fighting each other or gally dentist waiting room simulator.

    They should scrap gally mode if the player count is reliably low and replace it with something new.

    Sloop mode is fine, but big ship battles with multiple crew is really fun and they are a darn sight rare in Adventure mode there days. Just sloops and brigantines mostly.

    I would like to see more, certainly, but only if it's done properly. I'm also worried about more modes further splitting the playerbase. Honestly, just allow for brigantines and mixed ship battles in Arena, and I'd say that's about all that's really needed.

    Yeah I'd be happy with a mixed mode.

  • @daringclarky
    I'm talking about improving the system, not the mode itself so your 'point' it still bad in my opinion.
    Galleon arena as it is right now is fine, the problem is the matchmaking isn't efficient enough, and even if it IS the problem, battle royale is a no from me, chief.

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