I love the concept of Sea of Thieves. It has potential to be great, but every time I come back to this game I find myself bored after only a few hours. The main reason for this is that I feel as though all of my progress is for nothing. You spend hours on voyages collecting gold, however gold is worthless. I don't care about cosmetics, and buying voyages is only useful for getting more gold. The combat and exploration is fun, but when there is only 1 or two ships per server, fighting skeletons gets old. There is no risk OR reward in playing this game. If you die, you can simply respawn with another ship. I understand the need for balancing the game, but when every player spawns with a ship, guns, cannonballs, and everything they need, the game becomes stale. Sure, it's helpful for newer players, but they will too get bored all the same. I'd like to see gold be worth something. Ship upgrades, better guns, something! Nobody is afraid of losing the ship they spawn with, they spent all of their gold on useless cosmetic items.
Gold is worthless
I hate losing my ship, spending hours withit, collecting items and not turning them in on time. Or stocking with every curse cannon ball. So yeah...there is a risk to losing a ship you treasure.
I guess it how you view your gameplay.
Maybe if they add losing gold to dying? Oh that be horrible for new players. :p@puggins7318 said in Gold is worthless:
You can convert gold to doubloons at a rate of 69,000 gold to 5 doubloons, I believe it is, buy buying ashen chest voyages.
But it’s not like doubloons are any more valuable@ii-mr-hectic-ii you are right progress is for nothing but cosmetics.
I love it, it's an adventure game, no grind progression game for anyway meaningless pixels.
Ramsey Singh, the Piratelord:
"It's not about the Gold, it's about the glory."If you are no pirate adventurer the game like all other games will become less interesting over time.
@burnbacon Okay, so you get all this treasure yeah? And you do what with it? You sell it for gold. Then what do you do with that gold? Absolutely nothing useful. So you spent hours with your ship progressing for no reason at all. The "risk" is not worth the reward. The only thing you are risking is your time, and the reward is gold to spend on cool skins for your boat or guns.
@ii-mr-hectic-ii get back to me when you have 23+ million gold and 30+k doubloons whilst owning every single in game (non pirate emporium) cosmetic in the game...
Then tell me how useless gold is
@BurnBacon Well like he said, gold is pretty meaningless, so losing some won't change it.
@Puggins7318 Doubloons are used for the same thing as gold, so they are basically the same currency, just different vendors and prices.
@II-Mr-Hectic-II Anyway, I agree with you on this one. They put a progression system that is usually used by battle royale games. It's fine for arena but Adventure needs more than that.
Sandbox games usually have more mechanics than what SoT has. Stuff like survival, crafting, building, usable loot, progression etc.
I didn't play Gta online for years but even that had more than just clothes.Since the release, all we got were more ways to earn gold but no new ways to spend it.
So yeah, kind of a shame. Doesn't feel like you are investing in your character or the world. You just spawn, choose your skins and go get gold in different ways.
*Edit: @CallMeBackdrafT If he got the set he wanted, he doesn't have a reason to collect all the sets in the game. It's all about taste. Also if people get to these crazy numbers it shows that gold is indeed useless...
Some people feel this way and turn to stealing loot and PvPing to have fun in this game. I would recommend using the Sea of Thieves discord and finding people who also want to steal loot and PvP, as it will get the heart racing and you will feel the risk as you are worried that you could miss the opportunity to steal the loot. It sucks that you're not having fun with the game and that you're bored of it, but when people are bored they will normally turn to stealing loot as the experiences will always be different because you're dealing with other players, and not AI skeletons. Server hop and find a server with a reaper's emissary on it and go kill them. Or server hop and find a server with 3 emissaries on the tables and go find one to steal their loot. You're not guaranteed a huge haul of over 100,000, but you can still have some fun and maybe get a massive loot bonus.
Now you buy your ship upgrades, your better guns, better sword, cannons, harpoon, additional utilities and all that... what now?
Vertical progression doesn't do much else than extend the time until you reach the end-game state. The state at which you have all the best of the best to partake in the end-game tier of the game. Eventually you will reach the point where there isn't much to improve, whether that happens by simply logging in or after a whole leveling experience.
The issues of adding vertical progression is that we are supposed to share the seas with the old and new. Old members would not only have the knowledge and experience advantage, they would simply just be better geared.
One should not play the game for the pixels they get - whether that is for power or for looks, it can be fun and great to get them... but in the end a game is something that is supposed to be enjoyable to play. It shouldn't be trying to get the gear in order for you to start playing the game for fun.
If you want to play a game till you maxed out your character, play a little longer and move on... that is fine, but isn't what this game is about. Eventually people get bored with a game, try out a new one and move on. The horizontal progression makes this game casual friendly, you can pick it up as much and how often as you want. Be it once a week or daily.. you will always be able to play along. You can always come back and never feel left behind.
@ii-mr-hectic-ii Totally agree. Except instead of vertical progression, I'd rather see elite, hard quests that you have to pay big money to unlock. These would take place on separate, smaller maps (like an ice region) that are much harder and have no more boards in barrels. So when you run out of boards, you sink and get kicked back to the main map.
Also starting big server events, like paying a ton of money to summon the leviathan or commandeering the ferry of the damned.
I agree with @cotu42. I play games where you get better guns and equipment as you progress on and earn the means to pay for these upgrades and this results in new players being crushed which is why in games like that I will not go after players who clearly have starting out equipment however not everyone is as kind. Also even in those games I got to the point where I had everything anyways and really nothing else to spend on. The creators of SOT have made it very clear that is not how they want their game to be anyways and I respect them for that.
With all that said yes I do understand peoples frustrations that one can only purchase cosmetics but for me personally I am ok with that if it means keeping the game on a level playing field.
@combatxkitty I would be fine if they let me make a gold pouch of like 10k, 100k etc. so I can just give my gold to those new players or leave some treasure around for other people to find cuz I rly do not need it. Or this way I can just give my friends 100k when they start so they can get some cool cosmetics esp if I have no other use for it.
I think there are better ways to balance the game for new players other than making gold essentially worthless. It seems trivial to make a pirate game where the sole purpose is getting gold, but then the gold has no real value. I dont think the economy or game needs completely overhauled, but there should be some added/changed items to make the hours of looting and pirating worth the players time. I feel confident that a professional team of developers could find a better balance, I just think the priorities are in the wrong place. They keep adding more ways to get gold, when they should be focusing on ways to spend gold. I believe this is the main reason the game has fallen out of popularity, doing rinse and repeat voyages gets old after a time for most people.
@callmebackdraft get back to me when you have all the cosmetics in the game and 85 million gold (80% of which was stolen) and every update give us brand new content (re-skins of old designs) and combat updates which break combat even more or reduce the skill level
@ii-mr-hectic-ii if you want something to spend gold on something look at my just posted post. Player “Islands”. You’ll like it I think. :)
@pharaoh-rising said in Gold is worthless:
@ii-mr-hectic-ii if you want something to spend gold on something look at my just posted post. Player “Islands”. You’ll like it I think. :)
Reviving old posts is against the rules, your forum rank is master so u should probably know this.
