I've been playing with my brother and I came across two groups of people the fact I know this is that a Kraken got summoned during a fight then a ghost ship when we found them again. Then when we fight them no matter how much damage the don't go down and we go down right away. This is getting really bad and really ruining the mood for the game for me.
Cheating seeming more common now.
@drhojo123 i can tell you right now if they are experienced crew you will have alot of trouble taking them out if you aren't personally on the enemy boat killing them to stop them from getting water out and repairing, as a person who spends alot of time on sloops i can be kraken and ghost ship at the same time while having a player ship taking pop shots at me and still keep my boat up if i have the supplies to keep repairing it, nothing about that is cheating, if you ever want someone to help you with pvping my gamertag is always welcome!
gamertag is LGC BACKPACK
@lgc-backpack I would say that's the case I aren't the one to call out cheating, but when I did with them instead of defending them self they just said nice loot and went on to taunting that. If you get called a cheater your first thought would be to defend that. the very fact that the ghost ship spawned as soon as we got to them a second time and attack us can't be coincidence. I aren't a great player I've been only playing at least a month now, but I also know when I get one shoot by a blaunderbus at long range is impossible (Had full health.) I'm sorry these guess aren't good players those guy was cheating thick and thin. These weren't the first guys either came across a solo player who did the same things. I'm fine to losing loot if it's legit player, but cheating is when I draw the line.
@drhojo123 A decent duo can be very difficult to sink on a sloop unless you can keep them busy from repairing (fire, curses, chain shot the mast, hitting the same holes with cannons, etc.). The sloop is a tank with a competent crew. The skeleton ships often appear during fights. They don’t like to be left out of the fun. If there were no other events happening on your server then chances were high you were going to meet the kraken. The kraken appears when another event is not active. It looks at which ships are not near land and selects one at random. If you and another ship were fighting, that means your ships were 2 out of a maximum of 6 ships when the kraken was looking for a victim. There are no hacks that can summon a kraken or a skeleton ship to attack you.
@ghostpaw read my post above yours one group was just a solo that manged to sink us in two hits and then a kraken spawned as soon as we started to move at the new spot.
Again both groups been reported if I'm wrong i'm wrong I'm fine losing legit. I just don't see the point in cheating. .
@drhojo123 there is no point 7n cheating, right...but really, I can't see any evidence in cheating in your story...you got hit only twice? Question...did you repair? And most important, did you take a video to proof?
@schwammlgott of course we repaired and how can I get video proof? I don't plan to record the game 24/7 I shouldn't have to do that. Twice with a sword full health shouldn't kill you. One with a blunderbus at far range. They was cheating and I aren't they only person who been having issues in game with them.
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/118077/do-you-actually-care-about-hackers-in-your-game/6
And no point in cheating is poor of course the is people like to grief or just think they better when really they just cheating. I could careless if I died legit I said this many times and I know when I die legit. I aren't great at the game, but I'm able to survive more then two seconds.
@drhojo123 when I think someone is hacking, I take a video...I can record the last 5 minutes that happened...on my XBox...sorry mate, I saw enough videos of pontential cheaters which definitly weren't cheaters
@schwammlgott using pc not Xbox I don't have the ability to do that. but whatever you say I disagree with your notion I still thinking they cheating I gain nothing about lying about it.
@drhojo123 I didn't say you lied...but maybe saw something where nothing was...
A PC that can't record that...hard to believe@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
@ghostpaw read my post above yours one group was just a solo that manged to sink us in two hits and then a kraken spawned as soon as we started to move at the new spot.
Again both groups been reported if I'm wrong i'm wrong I'm fine losing legit. I just don't see the point in cheating. .
Be careful about over reporting people for this stuff. If you do too much of it then they flag you as someone who “cries wolf” a lot and they will be less likely to take future claims very seriously. I am just an average player on a good day, and I still get accused of hacking all the time across games when someone gets frustrated. The blunderbuss is a one shot kill from an unexpected distance if they aim and get all the pellets to hit you.
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
the very fact that the ghost ship spawned as soon as we got to them a second time and attack us can't be coincidence.
There is not a hack that can summon the skeleton ships or the kraken as you suggested.
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
@lgc-backpack I would say that's the case I aren't the one to call out cheating, but when I did with them instead of defending them self they just said nice loot and went on to taunting that. If you get called a cheater your first thought would be to defend that.
Some people call others cheaters the moment they lose a fight. For that reason, good PvP players will usually just ignore them since they are used to it. That's not really a good point, sorry.
the very fact that the ghost ship spawned as soon as we got to them a second time and attack us can't be coincidence.
From my experience (and others on this forum), the AI mobs love spawning whenever you are having ship battles. They target players that are on the seas, so when you have a bunch of them grouped together, they will spawn more often.
I aren't a great player I've been only playing at least a month now, but I also know when I get one shoot by a blaunderbus at long range is impossible (Had full health.) I'm sorry these guess aren't good players those guy was cheating thick and thin. These weren't the first guys either came across a solo player who did the same things. I'm fine to losing loot if it's legit player, but cheating is when I draw the line.
A lot can happen during a fight. It's hard keeping a track of who is hitting you and from where sometimes. Maybe they were closer than you think or you were hit from somewhere else as well.
Personally, I managed to sink 4 player teams before as a solo player, because they were not that good. All I had to do was circle around them and they couldn't hit me :SAbout recording, video cards these days have the ability to record and stream your games. Just need to learn the keybinds to activate it.
So yeah, I'm not saying you are wrong, they may have cheated. However, without any video proof, we can't really tell.
Let's analyze your story:
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:the fact I know this is that a Kraken got summoned during a fight then a ghost ship when we found them again.
That's all governed by an event or world service. There is simply no way a client can influence these actions other than altering the state of the crew. As far as I'm aware more loot present on a ship increases the likelihood of these events happening. Definitely not possible by cheating.
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
Then when we fight them no matter how much damage the don't go down and we go down right away.
Not sure what this is supposed to mean. If this is player-on-player damage:
- Dealt damage can definitely not be altered, as damage is only dealt by the server. The client does not affect this.
- Taking damage can perhaps be altered to a certain degree by increasing your latency or by doing interactions that are known to have an effect on hit registration. It's very unlikely that this is done by cheating, but possible nonetheless.
Ship-on-ship damage cannot be altered as the entire ship state is at least verified on the server. "Cheating" your ship is simply impossible.
In short, I doubt you encountered a cheater. If you think you did, record the occurence and submit a report through support.
@lordmustangwt said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
Let's analyze your story:
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:the fact I know this is that a Kraken got summoned during a fight then a ghost ship when we found them again.
That's all governed by an event or world service. There is simply no way a client can influence these actions other than altering the state of the crew. As far as I'm aware more loot present on a ship increases the likelihood of these events happening. Definitely not possible by cheating.
Incorrect, it's random. Loot doesn't affect the Kraken spawn chance. This myth possibly grew from the early days of the game when the crew that finished a fort were usually the ones that got hit by the Kraken. In those days, the Kraken only targeted galleons and they were the crews most likely to be doing forts (there were no brigantines).
While you are right to correct them for the "cheating" to summon the Kraken claim, the only things that affect whether the Kraken will spawn on you are whether there is no event cloud in the sky (not including FOTD) and whether you are in open waters.
Although it can get pretty close, the Kraken typically won't spawn very close to islands or rocks (but it is SOT, so don't rule out a glitch negating that).
They weren't hacking.
You didn't get 1 shot from a blunderbuss from far away. You were either lagging, they were lagging, or you had less health then you thought you did.
No one can "summon" a PvE event. Kraken spawns when there are no event clouds and are random on who they spawn on, usually whichever ship is in open waters. Skelly ships have a chance to spawn on anyone. The chances go up for the skelly ships spawn rates when more ships are in the same area.
You didn't sink from 2 cannonball hits. You probably had a hole you didn't know about and just ignored it the whole time. It happens, especially to new players. You don't know what to listen for. You could have also had a crying chest onboard. Its the chest that sounds likes its crying, blue chest with a face on the front. When it cries it starts to kill up your ship.
Sloops are one of the harder ships to sink, even when they are solo. If the person sailing the ship knows what they are doing, its increasingly difficult to take them out without boarding.
You can set up a "record that" clip that will save the last 5 minutes of your game. Its not only on xbox, it can be used on PC also, unless you are using steam which then you should have just gotten the xbox app or find a way to set up your nvidia function.
All in all you've only been playing a month. You don't know anything about this game yet and there are players who have played for 2 years that can pretty much solo anything. There are solo sloops that can sink full crew Galleons.
There were no hacks. You just got out played or you were complacent and didn't realize what was going on.
Pay attention better, ask more questions, get better at the game. Good luck
You think any hack would be able to summon a kraken or ghost ship?? Hacks are powerful, but doesn't give one the ability to create server events. Clearly you have no idea how hacks would work or what their limits would be. There is no proof of hacks here and therefore the most likely answer is that they were more experienced than you are without the use of hacking. Keep in mind it might be a new release on Steam, but people have been playing this game for a while now.
If you are really convinced it were hacks, create a ticket and report them. Rare will look at the data and be able to determine if they were hacking and ban accordingly. Don't think in this case it would be done or true, but you are always free to submit a ticket and have them look at it. They take these type of tickets very seriously.
@drhojo123 said in Cheating seeming more common now.:
@schwammlgott using pc not Xbox I don't have the ability to do that. but whatever you say I disagree with your notion I still thinking they cheating I gain nothing about lying about it.
You can use the Xbox game bar overlay (win + g) to record up to the past 10 minutes. You will need to change that in the settings though as the default is only 30 seconds. @Xultanis-Dragon The game bar will record no matter where the game is from or what is on screen ( I accidentally took a screenshot of an error message once). It might give you a bit more trouble about uploading it to xbox but its usually OK with it.
Gotcha. Yeah never bothered using it really till I started playing sea of thieves, so I figured it was an Xbox app feature. Before SoT I always used a 3rd party screen capture like OBS.
Thanks for the info.
@drhojo123 A lot of players find the fact that you call them hacker either funny or take it for more of a good kinda thing. They take it as if they are so good, other players think they are hacking.
Agree with the other sceptics. There isn’t much description that draws enough reason to believe hacking was happening.
If you were hit by two cannonballs and you repaired those holes and you didn’t have a chest of sorrows aboard then I’m curious to know how you filled up with water to sink. If you were unaware of certain holes or maybe a chest of sorrows was craftily brought aboard your ship without your awareness then perhaps this would explain things.
I can imagine someone sneaking a Chest of Sorrow up to someone’s crows nest whilst they’re away on an island, and they’d have no idea why they were filling up with water, might even not realise until they’re sunk.
There’s lots of plausible explanation as to why you sank. And not hard to believe another sloop could stay afloat despite enduring considerable damage,
All I would say is if you’re going to report cheating in future it’s best to get a game clip captured so you can provide evidence. That’s for future reference, it’s fair enough that you didn’t do it this time. But your description alone doesn’t prove cheating and in this case there isn’t much description that defies the laws of the game.
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