@captain-arcanic said in Solo sessions:
ADDED: How great would it be to watch the best of the best go against each other in a private server death match? Like Arena but with teams of ships and the whole map?! That would be good viewing.
That actually already exists. Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dxstP9LZc
this is the kind of issues a lot of PvPvE games have. There are always people who play for pvp and there are always people who prefer pve.
When I play alone, I hate pvp. I'm bad at it so its not fair in my eyes. "then learn pvp" ye go stick it, I don't care enough about it to learn. I wanna sail my boat and go around my quests and not be bothered.
When I play with my friends, we sail a gallion chasing everyone around. Because for me, they do all the pvp work and I just make sure we don't sink. I feel bad when we sink sloops cuz most of them are literally just people going about their quests, just like me.
@xx-mirth-xx Yeah, I watched that one, too. He doesn't know, he just hopes that what it will be. I guess we'll have to see.
@rowge-gaming Rare has posted directly that "Private servers are something we want for supporting cool community ideas". Yes, they haven't directly said gold, rep, etc can't be earned but it's highly unlikely as the first release for private servers.
I love the variety in the game. Player interactions aren't predictable, and that includes my own. It makes interactions unique.
The other day we were talking at an outpost after cashing out and a new sloop parks at the far side of the island, oblivious to our presence. He caries his low level chest and stops like a deer in headlights when he sees me in front of the gold holder tent. He stands there for about 30 seconds uncertain as to what to do with his precious chest. I start waving and he quickly dashes to cash it in.
Other times as said earlier, we fly alliances flags simply to draw in naive PVE crews and sink them.
Other times we dress as newbie sailors to draw in arrogant PVP crews and slaughter them.
The game is about a mix of personalities. Arena struggles partially because of the removal of PVE, and adventure would struggle with the removal of PVP. I play for both. How I react to an opponents ship, simply depends on my mood at the time, how you react, or the situation. The beauty of sea of thieves is that oyu can be both a charitable and ruthless pirate as you so choose.
@xx-mirth-xx Just so we're clear; nobody actually knows, and people like you keep saying it as if it were a foregone conclusion. This is misleading to people reading the forums.
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@xx-mirth-xx Just so we're clear; nobody actually knows, and people like you keep saying it as if it were a foregone conclusion. This is misleading to people reading the forums.
If you take all of Rare's comments into account on the matter, they do paint a pretty clear picture - you won't like it. They've pretty much confirmed private servers. They've said they want them for community events and content creators. Not once have they said they would be made available to public or if they would be rentable or free. Finally (this one is the kicker) they've said that farming servers didn't sit well with them and flat out "No" to PvE only servers. So if you connect the dots it pretty much lines up with what you are being told (private servers, possibly only for content creators/events, no progression, no PvE mode), you are the one misleading others having nothing to back it up other than you hope it will not be that way.
@dlchief58 Can you show me where exactly they said "flat out "No" to PvE only servers"? I have to ask because I keep reading posts making claims that aren't true.
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@dlchief58 Can you show me where exactly they said "flat out "No" to PvE only servers"? I have to ask because I keep reading posts making claims that aren't true.
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@rowge-gaming Also, you've been challenging a lot of people to provide proof that Rare has no plans for PvE servers, but how about you provide some proof that Rare has ever shown the slightest bit of interest in supporting PvE servers.
@xx-mirth-xx Thanks for the backup, I was thinking about another Twitter post they made where someone asked if PvE servers were coming and they replied simply "No".
@dlchief58 I can see you guys are very passionate about hoping other people don't get what they want. I think your view of this subject is slightly biased, and I don't see them saying "no we'll never have PvE servers" in that tweet, and at the same time, it doesn't sound like they are planning on full on PvE servers, either. I'm the kind of person that requires facts and evidence, and I haven't seen anything about whether people will / will not be rewarded with gold/rep etc. on these private servers they say are on the road map.
I just want to ask again nicely, please don't state things as fact when it is very unclear what will happen. You don't know what they are planning, and even if you did, plans change. You're certainly not going to draw new players to this game by being aggressively unpleasant towards other players.
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@dlchief58 I can see you guys are very passionate about hoping other people don't get what they want. I think your view of this subject is slightly biased, and I don't see them saying "no we'll never have PvE servers" in that tweet, and at the same time, it doesn't sound like they are planning on full on PvE servers, either. I'm the kind of person that requires facts and evidence, and I haven't seen anything about whether people will / will not be rewarded with gold/rep etc. on these private servers they say are on the road map.
I just want to ask again nicely, please don't state things as fact when it is very unclear what will happen. You don't know what they are planning, and even if you did, plans change. You're certainly not going to draw new players to this game by being aggressively unpleasant towards other players.
Why cant you understand that the amount of people that are against PvE server outweigh the people that want PvE servers. It will never happen so just stop.
@rowge-gaming lol, if you think this back and forth is "aggressively unpleasant" then a public online forum might not be the place for you.
That being said, here is another piece of evidence for you:
Joe Neate
"...there are reasons people would like access to a private world a private server or something. Definitely looking at that, definitely looking at how we can bring that in. But the number one thing we have to consider with that is like, PVE farming, gold stuff, and all that, that doesn’t quite sit right with us I don’t think."
So what do you think of those PVE servers?
"Oh, here we go. [laughs] I don’t think we’d ever want to provide an almost kind of authorized specific way for that to happen but that’s me talking, that’s just my perspective."
source: https://www.shacknews.com/article/111135/sea-of-thieves-interview-pets-private-servers-and-sequels
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@dlchief58 I can see you guys are very passionate about hoping other people don't get what they want. I think your view of this subject is slightly biased, and I don't see them saying "no we'll never have PvE servers" in that tweet, and at the same time, it doesn't sound like they are planning on full on PvE servers, either. I'm the kind of person that requires facts and evidence, and I haven't seen anything about whether people will / will not be rewarded with gold/rep etc. on these private servers they say are on the road map.
I just want to ask again nicely, please don't state things as fact when it is very unclear what will happen. You don't know what they are planning, and even if you did, plans change. You're certainly not going to draw new players to this game by being aggressively unpleasant towards other players.
Wow, you sure do like to twist things and ignore what is right in front of your face. It has nothing to do with me "hoping other people don't get what they want" as opposed to those few people changing the game I and others love for the worse by sucking up resources, money and time that could be better spent making actual improvements and additions rather than remaking the whole game for a few (yes few) people who don't "get" what the game is all about.
You can stick your head in the sand and ignore all the clues left out there by Rare through their statements (and silence) on the subject, but doesn't change it. Neate said farming servers don't sit well with the developer early on (i.e. PvE servers or private servers with progression), one of the other team members flat out said "no" on Twitter when asked if PvE servers were coming fairly recently (I'd link or post it if I could find it, I'm sure someone else will help me out on that). There is quite a bit of evidence against PvE servers ever coming, have not seen one thing even implying it is a thing that Rare is considering.
While I have nothing against private servers (actually am for this), I am opposed to progress or achievements tracking in them. They should be just for fun, events, practice or content creation. While they have said nothing outright about the progression on these, it is easily inferred from their past comments on the subject that progression is likely not happening on private servers. It goes against their core vision of the game as the tweet above states.
I've seen many a good game get ruined because developers listened to a vocal minority rather than sticking to their initial vision. I don't want to see this game fall into the same trap.
So while there is nothing definitive stated, everything the developer has stated on the subject is leaning towards the stance that PvE servers aren't happening (I can almost guarantee this as it would be an expensive endeavor, along the lines of making a new game with little chance of return on investment) and that progress will not happen on private servers.
I'm one of the guys that says "Let's Join a alliance" then kill them. It's a way to play the game it's a bit toxic but still. PvE player are good at PvE while PvP are good at both because they deal with both. If someone asks you to join a alliance dont drop your anchor and if they follow you they want to kill you so run for a bit. I've lost the Brigsy skull several times but I'm not one to complain because others are being "pirates" in a pirate game
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@dlchief58 I can see you guys are very passionate about hoping other people don't get what they want. I think your view of this subject is slightly biased, and I don't see them saying "no we'll never have PvE servers" in that tweet, and at the same time, it doesn't sound like they are planning on full on PvE servers, either.
You sound like my ex. "Well you said we cant be together but you didnt say we could never be together again". Some people just can not take no for an answer. Actually someone asked Joe Nate directly in a live stream will there be PvE servers and he said "no". Rare is not planning on full PvE servers, half PvE servers, a quarter of a half PvE servers, the answer right out of Joe Nate's mouth is "no" PvE servers.
So with that said if Joe Nate does not want people farming on PvE servers why would he want people doing it on a private server? It is really a matter of common sense.
I do hope the private servers are not just for events though. I hope we all can access them just to have fun with friends. No rep is needed of course.
@benh6803 stop saying toxic man, its not toxic to sink other peoples ships. its toxic to be verbally rude, sexist or racist but playing the game isnt toxic
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@dlchief58 I can see you guys are very passionate about hoping other people don't get what they want.
I think your view of this subject is slightly biased, and I don't see them saying "no we'll never have PvE servers" in that tweet, and at the same time, it doesn't sound like they are planning on full on PvE servers, either. I'm the kind of person that requires facts and evidence, and I haven't seen anything about whether people will / will not be rewarded with gold/rep etc. on these private servers they say are on the road map.I just want to ask again nicely, please don't state things as fact when it is very unclear what will happen. You don't know what they are planning, and even if you did, plans change. You're certainly not going to draw new players to this game by being aggressively unpleasant towards other players.
We are passionate about PvPvE servers, not only PvE servers. We are all biased to our own opinion. You have evidence. @xX-Mirth-Xx provided us with an excellent example about how the Devs feel about PvE only servers. We aren't stating things that aren't unclear. The no to PvE only servers has been clarified, overstated, and repeated many times in many different threads and posts. We aren't being aggressively unpleasant, we are just posting our opinions. You also have that right, and we are commenting on your opinions and posting our own opinions.
This is a pirate game. PvE servers are never coming.
@rowge-gaming I do know, as do the rest of us. The devs are adamant about PvE servers. No PvE only servers.
@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:
@supersnipper60
"PvE servers are never coming."
That's your hope, you don't actually know.
As I said Joe Nate said no that PvE servers are not coming. I think we should all listen to Joe Nate over you. Unless you work for Rare, do you?
@supersnipper60 said in Solo sessions:
@rowge-gaming I do know, as do the rest of us. The devs are adamant about PvE servers. No PvE only servers.
but you don't know that is what will happen
@supersnipper60 said in Solo sessions:
@rowge-gaming I do know, as do the rest of us. The devs are adamant about PvE servers. No PvE only servers.
I think their head is buried so deep in the sand one would need one of those giant construction scoopy things(whatever they are called) to dig it out. Is that rude of me to say? I dont know but people who spread misinformation annoy me.
How can someone say PvE servers can still happen when game developer flat out said no? The ole saying goes ignorance is a bliss, what a perfect example.
@benh6803
It sounds like your problem is with tall tales griefing. This has been a problem since TTs were introduced. At the very least Rare could have solved much of the problem by making quest items into inventory items.
PvE servers are a bad idea. Players will just use them to easily grind their way to pirate legend.
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