This weapon set is by far the finest made in the game, eye of reach is meta and I would be so glad if somebody at rare would consider creating this and either give it to the owners of the set or sell it or make it a twitch reward item?
Ferryman eye of reach?????
@archangel-timmy Why should others be able to get it?
It should be only for those who bought the controller and got the code.@archangel-timmy Flash! news they are entitled to anything related to the ferryman, it wont be the end of the world if they would add sniper rifle for everyone but no one other then those who have the ferryman set deserve it.
@faceyourdemon Meeting the terms of an offer does not grant anyone exclusive/free access to any future offerings unless explicitly stated, which it wasn't.
They are not owed, nor are they deserving. It is self-entitlement in order to lord something over others, and nothing more.
@archangel-timmy said in Ferryman eye of reach?????:
@faceyourdemon Meeting the terms of an offer does not grant anyone exclusive/free access to any future offerings unless explicitly stated, which it wasn't.
They are not owed, nor are they deserving. It is self-entitlement in order to lord something over others, and nothing more.
Thank you for telling me the definition of exclusivity XD
Flex unique things is part of the fun welcome to humanity.
And if its part of tbe ferryman it should belong to those with the set.@faceyourdemon Still not seeing anything to your side beyond self-entitlement, which isn't much of an argument.
Perhaps they should just do what they are doing with the Black Dog set and hand the rest out as under different names like Obsidian and Onyx.
Not much point in continuing this further since you aren't providing anything new or useful to bolster your side of the discussion.
Good day.
@archangel-timmy hahaha lol hypocricy in its best you are not providing anything other then your opinio either so im sorry that im not sold with the lack of the movment of this whatever it is XD
@faceyourdemon Only came back because you directly called me out as a hypocrite, which is incorrect.
I provided facts, you provided opinion.
Fact (me): Terms of the offer were for the Cutlass/Blunderbuss/Pistol, which were received. Therefor, nobody is entitled to anything regardless of their own self-entitlement.
Opinion (you): All of your responses to this Topic.
Are we done yet?
@faceyourdemon I agree with @Archangel-Timmy and I have the controller. A compromise would be to give it to people with the code right away and then use it as a twitch/mixer loot item.
@archangel-timmy lol i still claim that you are being hypocrite the facts are thatthe items that you get from the controller other then that its just opinions yours thats says that you dont think that they should add anything else into it for the exclusive owners and mine that says that if they add it they should keep it to the exclusive players.
Where are your facts other then an opinion?
Come back to me when youll have anything to actually add in other then your/mine opinion.
Sheesh read your reply again and show how do you present any piece of facts other then the fact that no one denied?@faceyourdemon I pointed out the facts, you just choose to ignore it and pass it off as strictly my opinion.
Feel free to provide a copy of the fine print on the redemption card where it states anyone is entitled to any additions to the set.
@archangel-timmy Never said its a fact in my opinion i think those who have the ferryman set are entitled to get any future ferryman items and your opinion is that it shouldnt be that way, no one argued about the fact that Rare have never said or promised adding anything to those exclusive owners and its fine but you got your opinions mixed with the facts.
@faceyourdemon said in Ferryman eye of reach?????:
@archangel-timmy Never said its a fact in my opinion i think those who have the ferryman set are entitled to get any future ferryman items and your opinion is that it shouldnt be that way, no one argued about the fact that Rare have never said or promised adding anything to those exclusive owners and its fine but you got your opinions mixed with the facts.
You literally said, and I'm para phrasing here, words to the effect of 'News flash, they are entitled to anything related to the ferry man'
As an outside observer, if anyone was mixing their opinions with facts then it was you
@octopus-lime lol i wasnt stating a fact ive said in my opinion that they are entitled for that but ive never said its a fact.
Ive i havent mixed opinions and facts not even once but hey you are more then welcome to try.If you want to get technical...
My original post was my opinion, which you chose to argue against with your own and kicked off this whole conversation about entitlement.
Your first reply asked a question, to which I followed up with a simple fact. A fact you tried to counter...
Flash! news they are entitled to anything related to the ferryman, it wont be the end of the world if they would add sniper rifle for everyone but no one other then those who have the ferryman set deserve it.
The first part of this isn't opinion, it is a statement which lacks any sort of opinion. You are countering my statement (of a fact) with a statement of the exact opposite. True or False here; if my statement weren't a fact, yours would be. Whether you intended it that way or not, part your post was attempting to present itself as a fact.
The rest of your responses are clearly opinion, but you opted to target the fact on entitlement rather than argue my own opinion on the matter. Demanding I provide proof of what I was posting, which I did time and time again. That fact is proven by the packaging of the controller, the information on the redemption card, advertisements, and simple common sense. You have even acknowledged it as a fact in one of your other incoherent posts.
the facts are thatthe items that you get from the controller
Then in that same post you ask me "Where are the facts other then an opinion?" when you literally just accepted the fact I was posting! You then, again, acknowledge the fact and claim you never denied it?
You have done nothing but deny the fact and try to pass it off as my own opinion. You have contradicted yourself between posts, even within the same post. You have confused fact with opinion.
I don't think drawing this out in crayon would be enough to help you understand where you went wrong.
OP: I am sorry your Topic turned into this mess.
@archangel-timmy Ive never argued about the facts that those are the items that you get my argument with you is that i think that it would be fair to add something related to those people and my statement about entitelment wasnt me saying a fact, i dont work for Rare so unless i bring a quote from them everything i say IS AN OPINION.
I dont need to make it obnoxious everytime i say something by saying "in my opinion" i just say it.
My only argument with you is that you dont think that those who have the ferryman set deserve it and i think they are thats it, there was no mix with reality and logic.Please show me where ive contredicted myself it would give me a good laugh i would to hear about it.
@faceyourdemon You are twisting and/or not understanding things, again...
Ive never argued about the facts that those are the items that you get
Nobody said you did, nor did I say such a thing. It is very apparent those are the items one would get, and the only items they are entitled to. The latter being fact that was argued.
my argument with you is that i think that it wouldnbe fair to add something related to those people
Actually, you stated those who have the code are entitled to anything that has to do with the Ferryman set and questioned why anyone else should have a chance to collect new items.
and my statement about entitelment wasnt me saying a fact,
I explained how you may not have intended it to be that way, but that is how it is construed.
i dont work at Rare so unless i bring a quote from them everything i say IS AN OPINION.
That is a good thing, to be sure. Not going to bother trying to explain how the rest of that statement is wrong.
I dont need to make it obnoxious everytime i say something by saying "in my opinion" i just say it.
You don't have to. If it is expressed as a belief, thought, judgement, a feeling, etc..., it is an opinion. Which most of your posts were. Only the one I described prior is trying to pass itself as a fact.
My only argument with you is that you dont think that those who have the ferryman set deserve it and i think they are thats it, there was no mix with reality and logic.
See, I never said they didn't deserve it. I just said they weren't entitled to it, which is different.
Please show me where ive contredicted myself it would give me a good laugh i would to hear about it.
I already have, more than a couple times :?
@archangel-timmy And i will correct you again by saying its wasnt claim to be fact just an opinion so unless you actually have something smart to say i will go round and round because im not trying to "pass off" anything i stand behind my words.
Yes i think that if they will add ferryman items anytime those who have the code by that it means have the ferryman set should be those who can get it, i wont throw a tantrum on the floor if they wont its all good but i think that exclusivity is a good thing even more when the game is around cosmetics.@FaceYourDemon (facepalm)
Round and round indeed... Moving on...
If they add more to the ferryman set, which I think they should, everyone should have the same chance at receiving it.
Those who have the original code will still have their exclusive items, but will have the same opportunity to get them as everyone else. Whether that be bundled with another purchase, promotion, in-game reward, etc...
I am sure those that have the items have a stronger desire to complete the set than those who don't and will never have a complete set, but I don't think that makes them more deserving.
I am all for exclusives under specific circumstances, and gifting them to those who made a purchase two years ago and received a reward as advertised isn't one of them.
Another thing I don't like is them piecing out sets, such as not including the EoR with that set? If it is going to be parted out, it should be by type or something. Clothes/Weapons/Equipment/Vanity.
I wouldn’t even mind just seeing the concept art for the Ferryman Eye of reach. I’m sure it’s out there inside a Rare members desk somewhere.
But to add my opinion. I agree on both ends of the exclusivity argument. Yes. It should only be released for those with the ferryman set. But it would however be severely unfair if that was the case.
But I do think that if it was released to the public through a twitch drop or whatever, it would finish the set yes, but it wouldn’t be as exclusive as the outfit/other weapons since everyone would have it.
