Trolls ruining the game.

  • You know this is a great game. And great games should stop stupid people from playing them. Me and my bud had just played for about 7 hours. did a skull fort. did some quests. had a really good time. then for about 2 hours after we were trolled by a group of trolls. we were using a sloop. and its like they knew where we were at all times. cause they were right here 5 mins after we re spawned they would sink us and sink us and sink us over and over. I get yes its a pirate game. and its SEA OF THIEVES. But at what point does it become SEA OF TROLLS. or SEA OF UNINSTALL. It's to the point now the player base is so low i dont see the point in the devs trying to keep this game afloat. Pun intended. You have a great game that is being ruined by the players. Me and my bud are done. Just like so many others that are fed up with these trolls ruining this game. and no ones doing anything about it. " My first hour of the game was being trolled by idiots " Is a very very common thing on this game. And no one has ever said " Wow this game is great my first hour was so much fun! " Im all for pvp. in fact i find it to be heart racing at times. but this is not pvp. this is trolling. and its killing the game.

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  • @wulfrik108
    You'll be told that in no uncertain terms by the posts that follow this that what you experienced is not in fact trolling but the sole intention of the game.

    It is incredibly fun and you just dont understand how much fun it is.

    Seriously though. There are some great games on game pass if you have that.
    This is just not one of them.
    Do yourself a favour and delete this and play something enjoyable.

  • First off, what data are you looking at that says the playerbase is so small that Rare should probably just stop supporting it? It is also about to get another infusion of new players because it is going to be sold on Steam.

    Second, just jump to another server if you have a group of people who are dominating. Why stick around for two hours? You had nothing to lose by switching servers if they sank you. Some servers have a lot of combat going on while most servers are filled with a lot of passive ships working on content. I play solo a lot and sail for hours without anyone coming my way unless I instigate a fight. You said “Me and my bud had just played for about 7 hours. did a skull fort. did some quests. had a really good time.” It sounds like you had several hours of fun as well.

    I am wondering if you MIGHT have been flying the Reaper’s flag if they were able to track you all over the server. Flying the red Reaper’s flag make your ship show up on the map. It is like saying, “Here we are. We dare you to try and sink us!”

    Try not to look like easy prey. For example, parking with your sails down, anchor down, with boat pointed at an island is a sign that the crew is very inexperienced and will probably be easy to steal from. Usually when players keep getting targeted by others in multiple game sessions, it is because they are doing something that is attracting other crews to attack them. Or they head straight for content such as forts and the fleet that were designed to pull multiple crews into the same area for fighting or alliances. If you jump on a server and head for the fort, you’re going to have a bad time if you just want to be left alone.

  • @roverandom5158 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    Do yourself a favour and delete this and play something enjoyable.

    That wasn’t very helpful. Don’t you think maybe suggesting some tips to help them out in future sessions might be a better way to go? The game is VERY enjoyable for quite a few of us. Before you run off the players, do you mind if we try to help them with tips and maybe help them see it from a different frame of reference?

  • @ghostpaw
    Sure knock yourself out.

    I was just giving my opinion and from what I can see hes already made up his mind.

    I'm sure the future posts telling him how wrong he is and of "bye, felecia", etc will be just as helpful as mine.

  • @wulfrik108 find a crew you don't have any problems if you play with other ppl

  • So you mean to tell us you had SEVEN hours of peacefulness, got sunk, and willingly stayed on the server you were in, knowing that a specific crew was hunting you down (especially now that you had nothing else to lose and no reason to stay on the server)?

  • @roverandom5158 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    @ghostpaw
    Sure knock yourself out.

    I was just giving my opinion and from what I can see hes already made up his mind.

    I'm sure the future posts telling him how wrong he is and of "bye, felecia", etc will be just as helpful as mine.

    Someone lurking and posting here has not given up and made up their mind. And most of the other posters are willing to be supportive and offer advice to players who are receptive to it. For example:

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/112496/just-played-again-after-a-long-time-and-it-will-probably-be-a-long-time-before-i-play-again/6

    The ones who have issues are players coming here with their minds made up about how the game must to change to suit them, despite the damage it would have on the game for everyone else. The players who respond to disagreement by questioning the intellectual and moral development of people who have a different perspective. Those are the posters who are not going to get much support here.

  • @ghostpaw
    Hmm. You have a lot more faith in the folk that post here than I do obviously.

    We'll have to agree to disagree and see how this thread turns out :)

  • @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    You know this is a great game. And great games should stop stupid people from playing them. Me and my bud had just played for about 7 hours. did a skull fort. did some quests. had a really good time. then for about 2 hours after we were trolled by a group of trolls. we were using a sloop. and its like they knew where we were at all times. cause they were right here 5 mins after we re spawned they would sink us and sink us and sink us over and over. I get yes its a pirate game. and its SEA OF THIEVES. But at what point does it become SEA OF TROLLS. or SEA OF UNINSTALL. It's to the point now the player base is so low i dont see the point in the devs trying to keep this game afloat. Pun intended. You have a great game that is being ruined by the players. Me and my bud are done. Just like so many others that are fed up with these trolls ruining this game. and no ones doing anything about it. " My first hour of the game was being trolled by idiots " Is a very very common thing on this game. And no one has ever said " Wow this game is great my first hour was so much fun! " Im all for pvp. in fact i find it to be heart racing at times. but this is not pvp. this is trolling. and its killing the game.

    Player base is low? Check your stats bub as the game has ranked as the 14th most played game on Xbox for the past 2 weeks and consistently been around the #20 spot for well over a year. Hardly the sign of a game having a low or dropping player base, especially one that is over 2 years old.

    Stop making up "facts" that you cannot back up. It does not help your point in any way.

  • @bloodybil said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    So you mean to tell us you had SEVEN hours of peacefulness, got sunk, and willingly stayed on the server you were in, knowing that a specific crew was hunting you down (especially now that you had nothing else to lose and no reason to stay on the server)?

    Exactly! Although I agree that sinking someone more than once is in bad taste, those people are simply the bad guys in a game where the players make the characters. If you find the bad guys and you can't win, find a new server. Sure it can be frustrating but not worth get worked up over after having fun for 7 hours.

  • @wulfrik108 sea of uninstall haha, if they ever let us name our ships im takin that!

  • @roverandom5158 if you dislike the game and this community so much, why are you here posting on the forums still? True honest curiosity. There's no need to be negative with your responses to the OP

  • If you're constantly being attacked by a crew, your best bet would be to switch servers. I've never ran into any Ayers who were able to hunt me down repeatedly and sinking me each time, so I feel as if this post is exaggerated.

    Sometimes the best move is to swallow your pride and leave the server, and start again.

  • @propheteyes6235 I never said i Dislike the game did i? Dont bother posting if you dont bother posting. I said. "this is a great game" What people here are failing to grasp is what is called balance. other games that are PVP oriented Have a firm grasp on it. And the data Ghost is all over. Many many many Sites are posting about it. Look it up yourself. As i did. And yes it is coming to steam. LOL you think its going to help? The steam Comm is far more critical about their games. It might be coming to steam. But like most PVP games on steam it will get neg revs simply on the fact there is no balance. Like i said i LOVE sailing around taking on Skelly ships and doing the quests. and yes the pvp is fun. But that is not what i am saying and what most of you have not quite figured out. IT IS TROLLING when you load in and you start off and first thing is your sloop is beset by 4 people on a galleon just cause they want too. you have nothing they could want they kill you repair your ship kill you more and sure you might kill them a few times. but at the end of it you die. you sink you start over. life is grand till they find you again. and harass you till you are forced to leave the server. maybe you like the server. maybe your pals are also on said server. My point is. Should there not be something in place to stop that? you think anyone on steam will be happy with logging in for the first time to get wrecked by a legend that's being a dingus? that wants to kill a newb just cause? cause that has worked out so well for other games that died out in the past. and why do you think they are going to steam in the first place... OOOH IDK LACK OF PLAYERS!? wooooah what a thought. i hope the player base does come back. again its a great game. it just needs some balancing. I am not a new player. i have a lot of time in the game so i am speaking from a place of love for the game. never once did i say i hate the game. and no 7 hours of game play of having loads of fun did not ruin it. it was the extra 2 getting trolled that ruined it for me and my friend. they had nothing better to do then kill us over and over. and no we had our alliance flag up. Add PVE servers for those that dont want the PVP. with all the updates there is enough stuff to surprise you to get that OOOH GOD shock. something for new players like my friend to ease into the game. she he stopped playing until i got him to start again.

  • @wulfrik108 that message wasn't directed at you. Hence the @ someone else :)

  • @wulfrik108

    You guys bought a PVEVP game, deal with it :)

    Next time be more informed about what game you buy if you don't enjoy half the content!

  • @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    @propheteyes6235 I never said i Dislike the game did i? Dont bother posting if you dont bother posting. I said. "this is a great game" What people here are failing to grasp is what is called balance. other games that are PVP oriented Have a firm grasp on it. And the data Ghost is all over. Many many many Sites are posting about it. Look it up yourself. As i did. And yes it is coming to steam. LOL you think its going to help? The steam Comm is far more critical about their games. It might be coming to steam. But like most PVP games on steam it will get neg revs simply on the fact there is no balance. Like i said i LOVE sailing around taking on Skelly ships and doing the quests. and yes the pvp is fun. But that is not what i am saying and what most of you have not quite figured out. IT IS TROLLING when you load in and you start off and first thing is your sloop is beset by 4 people on a galleon just cause they want too. you have nothing they could want they kill you repair your ship kill you more and sure you might kill them a few times. but at the end of it you die. you sink you start over. life is grand till they find you again. and harass you till you are forced to leave the server. maybe you like the server. maybe your pals are also on said server. My point is. Should there not be something in place to stop that? you think anyone on steam will be happy with logging in for the first time to get wrecked by a legend that's being a dingus? that wants to kill a newb just cause? cause that has worked out so well for other games that died out in the past. and why do you think they are going to steam in the first place... OOOH IDK LACK OF PLAYERS!? wooooah what a thought. i hope the player base does come back. again its a great game. it just needs some balancing. I am not a new player. i have a lot of time in the game so i am speaking from a place of love for the game. never once did i say i hate the game. and no 7 hours of game play of having loads of fun did not ruin it. it was the extra 2 getting trolled that ruined it for me and my friend. they had nothing better to do then kill us over and over. and no we had our alliance flag up. Add PVE servers for those that dont want the PVP. with all the updates there is enough stuff to surprise you to get that OOOH GOD shock. something for new players like my friend to ease into the game. she he stopped playing until i got him to start again.

    Lack of players? Hardly, the game is currently the 14th most played game on Xbox and has been for the past 2 weeks. It has consistently been around the top 20 most played game on the platform for well over a year now.

    People attacking you out of the blue is not "trolling". How do they know you are new? How would they know whether you have treasure on the ship unless they board you? Just because they aren't playing the same as you does not make their play style any less valid, there does not need to be a justification for people to attack you - there certainly isn't for any of the AI threats in the game. Treat them as you would any AI threat and leave your emotions out of it and you will do better.

    The game is PvPvE - other players are as much a part of the game as the environmental/AI threats. Either learn to deal with them (either by besting, negotiating or avoiding) or come to the conclusion this may not be the game for you rather than trying to change the CORE concept of the game to suit your desires. You are in effect asking for a different game.

  • @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    You know this is a great game. And great games should stop stupid people from playing them. Me and my bud had just played for about 7 hours. did a skull fort. did some quests. had a really good time. then for about 2 hours after we were trolled by a group of trolls. we were using a sloop. and its like they knew where we were at all times. cause they were right here 5 mins after we re spawned they would sink us and sink us and sink us over and over. I get yes its a pirate game. and its SEA OF THIEVES. But at what point does it become SEA OF TROLLS. or SEA OF UNINSTALL. It's to the point now the player base is so low i dont see the point in the devs trying to keep this game afloat. Pun intended. You have a great game that is being ruined by the players. Me and my bud are done. Just like so many others that are fed up with these trolls ruining this game. and no ones doing anything about it. " My first hour of the game was being trolled by idiots " Is a very very common thing on this game. And no one has ever said " Wow this game is great my first hour was so much fun! " Im all for pvp. in fact i find it to be heart racing at times. but this is not pvp. this is trolling. and its killing the game.

    Posts like this are killing the forum.
    Channel that upset into anger and fight back and win or play another game.

    Sick of people whining because they are too stupid to use their spyglass and man their sails.

    For the record, the playerbase has never been so high. Over a million players fool.

  • @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    @propheteyes6235 I never said i Dislike the game did i? Dont bother posting if you dont bother posting. I said. "this is a great game" What people here are failing to grasp is what is called balance. other games that are PVP oriented Have a firm grasp on it. And the data Ghost is all over. Many many many Sites are posting about it. Look it up yourself. As i did. And yes it is coming to steam. LOL you think its going to help? The steam Comm is far more critical about their games. It might be coming to steam. But like most PVP games on steam it will get neg revs simply on the fact there is no balance. Like i said i LOVE sailing around taking on Skelly ships and doing the quests. and yes the pvp is fun. But that is not what i am saying and what most of you have not quite figured out. IT IS TROLLING when you load in and you start off and first thing is your sloop is beset by 4 people on a galleon just cause they want too. you have nothing they could want they kill you repair your ship kill you more and sure you might kill them a few times. but at the end of it you die. you sink you start over. life is grand till they find you again. and harass you till you are forced to leave the server. maybe you like the server. maybe your pals are also on said server. My point is. Should there not be something in place to stop that? you think anyone on steam will be happy with logging in for the first time to get wrecked by a legend that's being a dingus? that wants to kill a newb just cause? cause that has worked out so well for other games that died out in the past. and why do you think they are going to steam in the first place... OOOH IDK LACK OF PLAYERS!? wooooah what a thought. i hope the player base does come back. again its a great game. it just needs some balancing. I am not a new player. i have a lot of time in the game so i am speaking from a place of love for the game. never once did i say i hate the game. and no 7 hours of game play of having loads of fun did not ruin it. it was the extra 2 getting trolled that ruined it for me and my friend. they had nothing better to do then kill us over and over. and no we had our alliance flag up. Add PVE servers for those that dont want the PVP. with all the updates there is enough stuff to surprise you to get that OOOH GOD shock. something for new players like my friend to ease into the game. she he stopped playing until i got him to start again.

    They are going to STEAM because microsoft is committed to getting its games into as many homes as it can. And steam reviews wont matter, this is the game they are building. I am looking forward to the influx of new victims for my pirate to sink/rob. This is not a safe world to play in, you have to understand that you can lose it all. When you lose, I suggest accepting it. If you are getting spawn camped at an outpost when you spawn, just start a new boat.

  • @roverandom5158 if your opinion of the game is so low surely there’s no need for you to waste all of our time on the forums by commenting here, no?

  • It sounds like you just had a bad experience. I play a lot and while there are certainly "trolls" as you describe here. They are not that common.

    The best way to deal with them is to start a new game on a new server.

  • @wulfrik108 My best advice to you would be to find another server in situations like that. I remember my crew was in a somewhat similar position. We had a galleon try to sink us near an outpost and steal our treasure, we ended up sinking them,killing them and cashed our treasure in. Well we see them heading back to us just as we were getting ready to leave the outpost so we yet again sunk them. Then they came at us again when we were at a fort stocking up more so we sunk them yes a third time. Ok so we figured that was the end of it so we decided to head out to do a voyage, guess who we saw again coming our way? Yep the same ship. We decided to leave the server and join a new one,we are not PvP'ers just wanted to do our voyages. This was back when game just came out. I think back in day the spawn islands wernt so far from where you were sunk so thats why they kept easily coming back.

    Anyways moral of story, if you are having repeat issues with a crew just leave. Thats one thing about online gaming that is so much better than real life, easier to get away when approached by an a hole

  • @daringclarky said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    Sick of people whining because they are too stupid to use their spyglass and man their sails.

    Maybe just inexperienced not too stupid. I think alot of these type of posts come from people who have not spent many hours on the game. If they would spend more time I think they would find ways to avoid most of the craptastic situations they find themselves in.

  • @wulfrik108 said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    we were trolled by a group of trolls. we were using a sloop. and its like they knew where we were at all times. cause they were right here 5 mins after we re spawned they would sink us and sink us and sink us over and over.

    This is not trolling.

    " My first hour of the game was being trolled by idiots "

    Call them idiots is a toxic (trolling) attitude.

  • @wulfrik108 this game is so easy do more pvp and get better

  • @targasbr pretty sure 1 crew killing another crew for no apparent reason over and over again is the very definition of trolling. I get it "sea of THIEVES" "Pirate game" and all that nonsense. But when there is clearly nothing to gain from killing someone. Continuing to do so is toxic as hell.

  • @mrbbhead said in Trolls ruining the game.:

    @targasbr pretty sure 1 crew killing another crew for no apparent reason over and over again is the very definition of trolling. I get it "sea of THIEVES" "Pirate game" and all that nonsense. But when there is clearly nothing to gain from killing someone. Continuing to do so is toxic as hell.

    Not really, it's part of the game. He could just scuttle their ship or go to another server. Or I could have retaliated, he was with a friend on the sloop, the most powerful combination in the game.

    The pirate code says nothing about killing and sinking another crew.

  • Player population seems fine, judging by the number of Xbox LFG groups that I commonly see.

  • @targasbr bro, common. Its article 5 in the "pirate code" which clearly nobody follows anyways. Tell me what is there to gain from that crew killing them repeatedly in a short window of time? Like I get it, 1st time no issues, 2nd time sure why not, but 3 or more? At that point its trolling man. If it isn't then idk what you consider trolling....

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