@knut-skallagrim I might have included you but you havent presented other statement,youve tried to defend people who you disagree with if you agree with that.
If we want to enjoy the community we need to find a middle ground and the PvE wont settle on nothing because its just about THEY want so pardon me for not taking them seriously, all of these one post wonders dont even care about our opinion so why should we?
Or those who are just chanting it in the forum with 0 desire to to compromise on anything.
If you truly want to find a middle ground aswell and enjoy a healthy community boy oh boy you are in the wrong side.
There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.
@musicmee said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@calicorsaircat @ClosingHare208
We are always watching out - and will redirect people where necessary :D
If you ever spot one, flag it for moderation it will be very much appreciated :D
Yes, I will do that. It's about time we got serious about policing opinions around here!
Thank you for your vigilance. I for one am tired of being forced to read things that I don't agree with and I'm sure that my fellow PIRATES and THIEVES on this agree.
It's so exhausting explaining over and over again to these[ mod edit] merchants that they chose to buy a sandbox pvp game and that they don't deserve to play the game just how they want, especially if it might impact me playing the game just how I want. It's not my fault they didn't do research before buying. Just like it's not my fault they just want to have fun without putting in the work and practice and dedication and watching Streamers like us to earn it. We don't need these people who don't want or even understand what Sea of Thieves is in the game or cluttering up our forum with non-starters like PVE only.
Imagine thinking you can just play any game only the way you want to just because you bought it, or are renting it on game pass.
And don't get me started on these Xbox [mod edit] always blaming everything on PC players and discriminating against us in order to cover how bad they all are at the game. So what if you pay to play online, that's your choice, and it doesn't mean anything other than M$ is ripping you off. I'm glad the deckhands do such a great job of squashing crossplay threads and opinion. I should not have to be forced to see those opinions I disagree with either.
Keep up the great work deckhands!
@seaofpc9214 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@musicmee said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@calicorsaircat @ClosingHare208
We are always watching out - and will redirect people where necessary :D
If you ever spot one, flag it for moderation it will be very much appreciated :D
Yes, I will do that. It's about time we got serious about policing opinions around here!
I'm gonna stop you right there. Its called sea of THIEVES, not sea of POLICE. The last thing we need is anyone trying to police the sea.
@seaofpc9214 Your post has been edited as it goes against the Forum Rules and Pirate Code.
ALWAYS:
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@monger-of-war said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
Over the last few days I have been trying to get my new friend into the game with the new update and nearly ever session we play we are getting rolled up on by Galleons/Brigantines and they will just spam kill you
You could be on a galleon and if you let a sloop roll up on you, you failed to keep an eye on the Horizon and even a sloop could sink you.
@triheadedmonkey said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@seaofpc9214 Your post has been edited as it goes against the Forum Rules and Pirate Code.
ALWAYS:
Be courteous. Don’t insult players you don’t know. If humour is the intent, remember that this can be lost or misinterpreted online, and words can very easily offend. Be mindful of what you’re saying and if someone asks a question, see if you can help them out as you’d appreciate being helped out yourself if the roles were reversed.
Name calling, personal attacks and using derogatory language against Community Members, Rare Employees, Global Moderators or Deckhands is not acceptable. Using such language will result in a warning, then temporary ban from the Forums and a final warning. If the action is persistent or increasingly aggressive, a permanent ban from the Forums will be issued.
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Thank you.
Oh I'm sorry.
I can get a little carried away sometimes, tee hee!It's only because I have so much passion for this game though. And I can tell you appreciate that.
Thank you for helping me stay within the forum rules by removing those two words. I appreciate your confirmation that it's within the rules to make generally negative and sweeping statements about groups of players who want pve only servers or Xbox players in general. Thank you for your tacit acceptance of such behavior as fine on this forum
Keep up the good work and maybe some day these people who want PVE servers and these Xbox players will learn that they and their opinions aren't wanted on this forum or in this game.
#PCBroFist
Keep up the good work and maybe some day these people who want PVE servers and these Xbox players will learn that they and their opinions aren't wanted on this forum or in this game.
I'm feeling a little triggered right now. My opinion isn't wanted on this forum or in this game because I play xbox?
I'm PL10 and I get my stern kicked by every PC player I encounter. And I can't even voice my discontent with that?
You can't possibly know they are PC players though. You're probably just bad at the game like all Xbox players and trying to scapegoat PC players for their inability to git gud.
Probably getting beat by Xbox players who are actually good.How about instead of getting triggered you put that energy into training yourself, and getting better.
You could watch a streamer like Summit and see how to be a good player. He saved the game.
Some of what you say is true, such as PC players often being used as an excuse when skill is the reason for their losses. However, other things you have said are excessive blanket statements or outright contradictory. For instance,
You're probably just bad at the game like all Xbox players
Probably getting beat by Xbox players who are actually good.
You both claim that all XBox players are bad at the game, which is false - there are good and bad players on both platforms - and then claim that some do not fall under your own statement. If satire, this is too far. If not, this is blatant discrimination and no better than the group campaigning for platform-based segregation.
@seaofpc9214 I'm gonna have to stop you right there.
First of all, I trained super hard for the great war of 2004 in which I lost my right hand. I literally can't even use a keyboard and mouse or my actual hook will either get tangled up in the mouse cord or will poke a hole right through the electronics and shock me.
But what I find really shocking is your lack of insight on the meta. Every pirate worth xis salt knows that loading times for xbox players is longer if there is a PC player around. This seems like it's specifically tailored to handicap xbox players giving PC folks long enough to reload twice while my character stands there with his blunderbuss in his hand while I finish loading.
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
But what I find really shocking is your lack of insight on the meta. Every pirate worth xis salt knows that loading times for xbox players is longer if there is a PC player around.
It has nothing to do with PC players. Loading is longer when anyone is around, because the loading process has bugs and is slow. Slow loading will happen to PC players when near other ships as well but this is compounded on the XBox which runs on a low grade, poor performing 5400rpm hard drive.
The problem with these forums is that people like to spread old wives tales like this which has no basis in reality.
Fake news, it has nothing to do with PC players. It has to do with loading bugs that happen to everyone exactly the same except that it's worse on Xbox because M$ cheaped out on hard drives.
PC players aren't reloading twice just using meta. Namely doublegunning, which despite Rare actually naming as an exploit we use because if they didn't want us to exploit they'd take it out of the game.
You can see how by watching sum sum, he's so entertaining, and he saved this dying game.
Edit: oh yea, sorry but your accessibility issues aren't our problem, in fact it should help you. It is after all a PIRATE game!!
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
But what I find really shocking is your lack of insight on the meta. Every pirate worth xis salt knows that loading times for xbox players is longer if there is a PC player around. This seems like it's specifically tailored to handicap xbox players giving PC folks long enough to reload twice while my character stands there with his blunderbuss in his hand while I finish loading.
SSD bud. Even external SSD will cut your loading times by 60%. Testing this on Xbox S and X load times into the game (from Start Sail to hitting tavern) went from 3 Minutes 38 Seconds to 1 Minute 24 Seconds at worse just with having the game on SSD. This also applies to load times with mermaids and such.
Has ZERO to do with PC players. However if a server is hitting capacity you at times could see more latency.
@d3adst1ck I'm not sure what all those numbers mean, but I know what my feelings are and that trumps any data you believe in.
@demon9017 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@savagexxxone 60% is laughable. My SSD doesn’t give me 60% more faster load times.
You can't just buy any SSD, there are different types. Research helps.
What laughable is people that fail to even look into these things.
In the end, I found a massive upgrade that got me close to my PC speeds. Works for me and all that matters.
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@d3adst1ck I'm not sure what all those numbers mean, but I know what my feelings are and that trumps any data you believe in.
"I don't believe in facts, just feelings"
@d3adst1ck said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@d3adst1ck I'm not sure what all those numbers mean, but I know what my feelings are and that trumps any data you believe in.
"I don't believe in facts, just feelings"
Going to be a rough life for this one. Lol
I can already tell you, even with a Peace Flag and unable to do damage or cause damage to others can be exploited or work arounds.
Curse cannon balls, since dont damage the ship can still put you into spots you can have the sea itself (islands) do the damage.Random kegs in crowsnest. Blow up, still got to take damage.
Random skelly ship, got to take damage. Player can use any cannon, even ones on the island.list can go on.
Over the past 2 days I have made over 100k gold and over 400 doubloons while playing on a solo sloop. My success was due to awareness of my surroundings and a familiarity of the advantages of my ship type.
Solo play is meant for more experienced players as this game is designed and balanced for team play. If solo is too hard for you, then you should find a crew rather than ask for unnecessary accommodations that would ultimately hurt the multiplayer dynamic of the game.
@ultmateragnarok said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
Some of what you say is true, such as PC players often being used as an excuse when skill is the reason for their losses. However, other things you have said are excessive blanket statements or outright contradictory. For instance,
You're probably just bad at the game like all Xbox players
Probably getting beat by Xbox players who are actually good.
You both claim that all XBox players are bad at the game, which is false - there are good and bad players on both platforms - and then claim that some do not fall under your own statement. If satire, this is too far. If not, this is blatant discrimination and no better than the group campaigning for platform-based segregation.
Sorry by those who got good I really mean PC players who happen to be playing on Xbox at the time. I do that frequently if I don't feel like leaving my comfy couch but still want to dumpster some kids.
It's how I know that there is no PC advantage, no matter what the Crossplay complainers say to deflect from how bad they are.
Gonna be honest, I skipped most of the messages cause it was arguing about sailing speed and how to avoid players and blah blah blah. Point is, it’s toxic to sit there and constantly die to spawn campers, and no amount of skill will stop you from loading in, being able to move a centimeter, and instantly getting gunned down by two players no matter what it is you do. That has nothing to do with skill. It’s toxicity. If you’re doing it to prevent them from sinking is one thing; doing it for the purpose of trolling the other player when they aren’t sinking and you just want to kill them, that’s grinding/toxicity. There should be countermeasures against that sort of behavior.
Also, being a solo slooper myself I know it is possible to sink brigs or galleons, but when they’re maxed out with players matching your skill level; you’re done for. And if they want to be toxic about it, there’s nothing to stop them.There is a PC advantage, there is an advantage for XBox players as well, and some mechanics lean to neither side. Overall, it's balanced with no advantages. Yes, many crossplay opt-out supporters are simply bad and seek a scapegoat. They represent very little of the XBox or overall populations as a whole, which varies greatly from players who can outplay your average doublegunner to players who don't know how to turn the wheel on their ship. Not all XBox players are bad, and not all PC players are good, it's the players who are bad or good at the game based on their awareness of their surroundings, knowledge of game mechanics and focus on their interactions.
Nah man I use both all the time, controller and mouse and KB on both too. It's the exact same game.
I think a lot of Xbox players want opt out so they can just PVE. We know there all casuals anyway because they're on Xbox.
We only hear so many here but that's only because most aren't smart enough to not get banned for trolling.
Seen lots come and go here.
@ashesofjames said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
Gonna be honest, I skipped most of the messages cause it was arguing about sailing speed and how to avoid players and blah blah blah. Point is, it’s toxic to sit there and constantly die to spawn campers, and no amount of skill will stop you from loading in, being able to move a centimeter, and instantly getting gunned down by two players no matter what it is you do. That has nothing to do with skill. It’s toxicity. If you’re doing it to prevent them from sinking is one thing; doing it for the purpose of trolling the other player when they aren’t sinking and you just want to kill them, that’s grinding/toxicity. There should be countermeasures against that sort of behavior.
Also, being a solo slooper myself I know it is possible to sink brigs or galleons, but when they’re maxed out with players matching your skill level; you’re done for. And if they want to be toxic about it, there’s nothing to stop them.I will agree with you that at times you will have people trolling others on spawn killing. Does happen, and well happens in MP games a lot.
But you can get out of it, maybe not always but players tend to get away from the spawn kills depending on the situation. Of course if its like 1 vs 4 or even 2 vs 4 its much harder but can happen and does happen. You saying no amount of skill and that won't..... well not totally true, but I get your point and you are correct to some aspects to this statement. But context does matter, hence why it is specific to the statement.
Its "toxic" when players are just trolling for the sake of the troll. As you stated, to keep them a float and just killing over and over in any type of boat is a bit pointless. (There are some instances where I have done this to a truly toxic group of players, but that is besides the point).
There is a counter measure. People don't want to hear it but its there. Scuttle.
Solo slooping is rough, and agree when its 3 v 1, its hard, 4 v 1 just makes it close to impossible. But again, depending on skill level is the context here. I don't experience to many good players on a brig or gal that I haven't escaped from, or that actually take me over and camp me just for the sake of the troll. Good players typically are not doing this cause it's a waste of their time or looting. So the small instances in my mind don't justify the need for any sort of a safe mode.
Scuttle or server hop if there are toxic players. Even then I am not seeing enough of these so called "toxic" players to justify some of these discussions. The term Toxic is so misused it and of itself is a problem. But just cause you had a recent bad encounter to me doesn't me the game is broken. If this was the case, we should see way more of these posts and the data to back up what is being championed for.
I don't really have any issues at all when solo. I know it happens but for the most part I can handle almost anything. But I am a seasoned player and can see where the casuals will have more issues. This game promotes the more skilled players and encourages people to get better. If they choose to get better is really up to them. But there is always going to be an instance where you can end up getting the short straw. There is a fix, sever hop or scuttle. If you chose to run out into a sever solo, that is a risk. We all do it and we all have a story to tell.
@ultmateragnarok said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
There is a PC advantage, there is an advantage for XBox players as well
LOL Xbox players have a advantage to!!??? Xbox has not one advantage over PC not one
@seaofpc9214 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
Nah man I use both all the time, controller and mouse and KB on both too. It's the exact same game.
I think a lot of Xbox players want opt out so they can just PVE. We know there all casuals anyway because they're on Xbox.
We only hear so many here but that's only because most aren't smart enough to not get banned for trolling.
Seen lots come and go here.
Maybe a little bit extreme, but can't say you are wrong on some points. Maybe to put in kindly:
- Yes I do see people that don't want to play the game as it was intend and just want PvE. I too cannot agree with these individuals, but we could help promote some more QoL in lets say Tales. I could be for that.
- The nail on the head is the Casuals. We have them and they for sure don't play the game to the extent as the seasoned do, and the fact they are in the same servers as the seasoned will at times cause them to have to step it up. The nature of a casual to a more active player will be apparent in a game like this. But they should also be highly aware of that.
The nature of a typical player in general will be different from a more active player on both Xbox or PC. But on PC there are not as may casuals because of effort to have a PC dedicated to game and such. Its just a different breed on that side. This doesn't take away from the dedicated console player, but there are few and far between.
I will agree we do have some that are not that active in the community but just come to complain, and even in their posts we can see what occurred and triggered them to come on here and do so. That is going to happen though and hopefully with some insight they can learn and thing or two if we all pitch in. (maybe)
@seaofpc9214 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
I think a lot of Xbox players want opt out so they can just PVE. We know there all casuals anyway because they're on Xbox.
You should try casually eating some fruit on an XBox and then doing another action like getting out a sword, climbing a ladder, or dropping an anchor.
Then git gud and eat fruit on a PC.
Doing an action while eating fruit on the XBox interrupts the action. Doing the same on PC does not.
I would love to hear how that is game balancing.
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
@seaofpc9214 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
I think a lot of Xbox players want opt out so they can just PVE. We know there all casuals anyway because they're on Xbox.
You should try casually eating some fruit on an XBox and then doing another action like getting out a sword, climbing a ladder, or dropping an anchor.
Then git gud and eat fruit on a PC.
Doing an action while eating fruit on the XBox interrupts the action. Doing the same on PC does not.
I would love to hear how that is game balancing.
Do you play on PC? I mean I have the same issues when trying to eat something and cancelling it trying to do other things.
Even then. You can assign the D-Pad to get food faster just as much as a PC. Oh and you can use M/K on Console...
Next.
@savagexxxone Well it seems like you misunderstood what i'm saying.
I can switch to food. Its taking a bite and then quickly doing something else. If you try to drop an anchor right after eating food, it won't count the "eating" if you're on an xbox. It does on PC.
And I understand that YOU can use M/K on a console, but as I explained earlier, I only have 1 hand and my prosthetic doesn't do well with a mouse.
@opensourcerer55 said in There has got to be a safe mode enabled for sloops at this point, its getting out of hand.:
I can switch to food. Its taking a bite and then quickly doing something else. If you try to drop an anchor right after eating food, it won't count the "eating" if you're on an xbox. It does on PC.
It does the exact same thing on PC. I use this to avoid accidentally eating worms or a valuable fish all the time. Even if you hear the cronch sound, if you switch to a weapon or hit the unstow button you won't finish eating the food.
@demon9017
The controls of ship parts, such as cannons, sails, etc. were made in such a way to make them somewhat easier to use on a controller than on a M&K, to balance out the aiming precision a mouse offers. Controller users have an advantage in ship-to-ship combat, if everything else, such as crew skill, crew size, positioning, resource count, CCB count/types, and any other factors are not there. That said, on average XBox players are more casual, and as most controller users are XBox players, they tend to be lesser in skill. This leads to boarding as a priority for them rather than focusing on the ship itself, which eventually causes their loss. This does not always happen due to many, many countless factors, but it does somewhat more commonly than anything else. Just because you didn't know of or act accordingly to the controller advantages, doesn't mean they aren't there. It's one of the many smaller facts which make players better at the game to know.@OpenSourcerer55
Cancelling the eating animation on any platform or input device cancels the healing. You are likely experiencing some light lag somewhere in the process of switching items, giving the PC time to finish while the XBox, with a marginally faster connection, does not. Better is worse, I suppose.
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