Personalized Collector Chests

  • Once you turn in a Athena Chest or a Captain Chest, what happens to the chests? The gold hoarders pick the locks and keep the gold but what happens to the empty chests? I propose that they start selling the chests to us.

    The idea is simple, give us the option to buy collectors chests that look like different treasure chests in the sea of thieves. If you bought a Athena collectors chests, it could store 3 items in it and look like a Athena chests.

    I would set up a shop on the outposts where you can buy custom collector’s chests. Like the pets, you could only have one chest in the world at a time and the chest would de spawn when you log out. And treasure inside would be left behind if it was stolen and you quit out of frustration. You could also recover the chest at the outpost but it would be empty every time you collect it from the outpost.

    For players who don’t have a lot of money to waste on customization collectors chests, I would give the players an option to turn in a chests to this new merchant and he could turn it into a collectors chests. For example, if you turned in a chest of sorrows to this new merchant, he would give you a collectors chests that looks like a chest of sorrows

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  • @coffeelight5545

    That's one impressively creative way to introduce a play-to-win progression mechanic. Both buying collector's chests and being able to buy decoys for any kind of chest, including chests of legends (they're not called 'athenas', nothing even has that name). Neither of those suggestions will happen. As for the chests themselves, they're all either covered in gold or enchanted in some way and given to the Order of Souls, and some of them make nice gold storage crates.

  • @ultmateragnarok play to win progression?? isnt that what we already have, the longer you play the more experience you get, the more supplies you get in game, the more flames you get, the more opportunities you get. lol i dont think play to win is a thing

  • @d4m0r3d

    Progression as in an advantage bought with gold, or long-term playing. Experience isn't too unbalanced, as any player still dies to the same things. Resources per session isn't progression at all, since it doesn't last. Flames of Fate affect gameplay in one way, which is the FotD, and anyone can get them. Regardless, neither of those ideas are likely to make it into the game

  • @ultmateragnarok "any player still dies to the same things" what you mean? noobs die to things, experienced players dont die to anything. kraken, ez kill, meg, ez kill, skelly ship ez kill, not to noobs though.

    "Resources per session isn't progression at all, since it doesn't last. "
    i dont think the OP is asking for anything that lasts, just for us to buy collectors chests that are styled rather than the same old wooden boring one.

    "Flames of Fate affect gameplay in one way, which is the FotD, and anyone can get them" anyone can get anything in the game? what cant all players get? if the OPs idea is added, why wouldnt everyone be able to get it. im not for nor against the OP im just confused with what you are saying, it doesnt make sense.

    "Regardless, neither of those ideas are likely to make it into the game"
    what ideas?? the OP only suggests one thing, wich is different looking collectors chests that can be bought when you sell that style of chest.
    what other idea isnt going to make it into the game and why?

  • @d4m0r3d

    What I mean by players die to the same thing is that you don't get damage increases, or more health, or any of that kind of thing. A bullet is a bullet, whether it's your first day or your second year.
    Resources don't last because they can't be bought or saved. Gold is saved between sessions, however, and using it to buy collector's chests is a form of advantage.
    Not everyone could get this kind of idea because first, not everyone has the gold to spend on buying several collector's chests, and second, not everyone has the levels/commendations to buy what is essentially a decoy version of any normal chest.
    The two ideas suggested are buying collector's chests and stylizing collector's chests, which were proposed as one idea. I split them up for my points, but I can see how that wasn't the most obvious.

  • @ultmateragnarok said in Personalized Collector Chests:

    @coffeelight5545

    That's one impressively creative way to introduce a play-to-win progression mechanic. Both buying collector's chests and being able to buy decoys for any kind of chest, including chests of legends (they're not called 'athenas', nothing even has that name). Neither of those suggestions will happen. As for the chests themselves, they're all either covered in gold or enchanted in some way and given to the Order of Souls, and some of them make nice gold storage crates.

    You clearly don’t understand what play to win progression is. Play to win is when a player has an advantage over others solely because of money. There is literally nothing in the sea of thieves that has play to win.

    My idea is solely cosmetic. I can see how buying a collectors chests could be pay to play. To fix that, give everyone a single collectors chest but make it look like a basic castaway chest.

    This idea wasn’t created for a decoy. If players can’t tell the difference between an Athena chest and a collectors chest that looks like an Athena chest then shame on them. FYI I know it’s called “The Chest of Legends” everyone calls it an Athena chest.

  • @coffeelight5545

    If it's styled to look like a chest of any kind, then how would it not look like it? All of the chests in-game are designed to be openable, so it's not that, and it can't really be excessively different. As for giving everyone a collector's chest, I think finding them on islands is better. Rowboats had the same request, you have to go find one if you want one.
    As for the name, some people call literally everything to do with pirate legends Athena. The wreck, the cosmetics, the voyages, the chests, and so on. It's not hard to just call it what it is.

  • @ultmateragnarok

    You are splitting hares with the Athena chest nickname.

    As for the collectors chests, I don’t mind if you have to find one in the game and you can bring it back to customize it. However, I still think my idea is better. Also, no one is forcing you to do anything. Just because you don’t like an idea doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing

    Personally, I feel you disagree with almost everything I post. Clearly your views are the exact opposite of mine. I respect your opinion but I don’t agree with it

  • @coffeelight5545

    I've also noticed that I disagree with many of your posts. That said, I don't tend to comment on things I agree with much, either. This particular suggestion is a good idea, it just doesn't really fit with the game as of now. I could see customization for collector's chests working if it's brought back, and also if it is perhaps only in style and color rather than being just the model of another chest. Yes, the name thing is a bit ridiculous, it's just very annoying to me. It's a matter of preference as to what you call it.

  • @ultmateragnarok ahhhh ok so your problem with it is simply that you dont like that they cost gold, and i get that. this same discussion has happend with buying supplies from merchants, and i doubt something like this would ever be added tbh. i think the devs have said they wouldnt add anything that you can buy to gain an advantage. although (how do i whisper) some new emotes let you tuck wich is technically worse than spending gold to get an advantage but watever emotes are cool.

    @CoffeeLight5545 "You clearly don’t understand what play to win progression is. Play to win is when a player has an advantage over others solely because of money. There is literally nothing in the sea of thieves that has play to win."

    il explain to you why the ability to buy fake athenas would give an advantage. when a player boards your ship, they may see this athena, and be like oh poo he has an athena, he would then grab it and leave you and the rest of your ship alone taking only this decoy fake athena, only for him to realise it is fake. so yea this is play to win, the more you play, the more gold you earn, the more of these fake decoy chests you could buy.

    if your idea wasnt created for a decoy, it doesnt matter cause thats how it would be used. even if it looks different, newer players will fall for it, and others might fall for it simply because they saw a glimpse of it and freaked out that oh holy moley thats an athena.

    asking for different styled collectors chest is fine, but for them to look like other things ehh, maybe thats ok if perhaps you are doing an athena quest and thats the only way to aquire these athena collectors chests, however buying them would be unfair.

    plust overall you said you sell the chest to them and buy it back and use it as a collectors chest, so what? are you saying it magically changes appearance when gold isnt in it???? cause you didnt specify that it looks different anyways, not that it matters.

  • @ultmateragnarok its common nature not to comment on things you agree with. it is much easier to vocalise things you disagree with, because if its something you like, the reaction is hmm that sounds good, i hope it happens, but most dont feel the need to say it. when it comes to disagreeing, its more of a well damn i better let my oppinion be heard, in hopes that this oppionion could potentially change the oppinions of others or effect the decision/view around this topic in my favour. if feel like this can be a bad thing for forums like these, cause we see alot of good ideas on the forums that kinda get swept under the rug, for more controversial topics, things that everyone likes usually get minimal upvotes and replies wich might make the devs think, well this idea wasnt very popular when in actuality that idea was just so popular no body had anything to say about it other than yep good idea, wich is something no one is gonna bother typing out : (

  • No thank you.

  • @d4m0r3d I like to say two things,

    I know what pay to win is. I literally said that in my post in this thread. You just copied and pasted what I said.

    Second thing, if boarders mistake an Athena chest for a look alike, then they are poor players. This game rewards experience. The customizable collectors chests wouldn’t be called “The Chest of Legends” if a player doesn’t take the time to look and tell the difference then it’s his fault if he wastes time hunting down the players

  • @coffeelight5545 yea your problem is we are talking about PLAY TO WIN not pay to win, you even said PLAY TO WIN in your comment, but you described pay to win. il say it again we were talking about PLAYING TO WIN. to understand what that means read what @UltmateRagnarok said. il give you a run down rn, play to win is an advantage given to you from playing longer. an example of this would be a skill tree, or abilities option in pvp, this kind of thing gives an advantage to experienced players as they would have more skill points to spend, and more abilities that your average joe.

    Second thing, if boarders mistake an Athena chest for a look alike, then they are poor players. This game rewards experience. The customizable collectors chests wouldn’t be called “The Chest of Legends” if a player doesn’t take the time to look and tell the difference then it’s his fault if he wastes time hunting down the players

    ok you say this but

    Once you turn in a Athena Chest or a Captain Chest, what happens to the chests? The gold hoarders pick the locks and keep the gold but what happens to the empty chests? I propose that they start selling the chests to us.

    this is all what you said. if this is the case you would be required to actually go up to it and read the name of the chest in order to tell a difference. because you litterally say you want the exact same chest, identical chest to be used as a collectors chest cause its empty since the gold hoarder would have taken all the gold. also btw athena chests are sold to the mysterious stranger and go to the PL himself.

    and as for

    if a player doesn’t take the time to look and tell the difference then it’s his fault if he wastes time hunting down the players

    im gonna exaggerate it so its more clear. imagine every single item in the game looked the same, and you had to look at the name of the item to know what it was, that would suck. so them making these chests look like athenas is also silly. also if it is how you describe it in the OP it doesnt matter how experienced you are, you still have to go and read it. slowing down pvp and messing with stealth missions.

  • @d4m0r3d

    I confused play with pay. That’s my mistake.

    There is no Play to win in sea of thieves. With my idea anyone can buy a Chest of Legends collector chests. I have been playing this game for over a year now and the only difference between me and a new player is that I have more gold. Gold is useless in this game and only buys cosmetics. My idea is a cosmetic collector chests, nothing more.

    My idea doesn’t give any advantage to anyone. It may confuse someone but if they don’t confirm what it is then it’s their mistake.

  • @coffeelight5545 yea thats what @UltmateRagnarok was saying that your idea would introduce a play to win aspect.

    It may confuse someone but if they don’t confirm what it is then it’s their mistake.

    this statement proves that it would indeed provide an advantage. the effect of confusing players and delaying them deffinately provides an advantage.

    furthermore another advantage these chests provide is the ability to hold 3 items, this means that players could hold 3 items and sell items 3 times faster, cause instead of brinign one item (like a skull) one at a time, they will be bringing them 3 at a time. sure we already have collectors chests, but atm they are RNG, you cannot buy this advantage, merely come upon it, the same way we cant buy cursed cannon balls, or buy supplies or buy fire balls. we can find them but not buy them.

    and with this being said, i like the idea of different looking collectors chests, we already have some, the ancient, the lovers, and the new ashen collectors chest. i would like more that work the same way regular ones do, but i dont like the idea of buying them. a captain styled collectors chest would be cool although it would have to look more unique then it does look like a captains chest, the way of doing this would be to use the structural design of a regular collectors chest, and give it gold outlines and similar designs on the wood.

  • I wish this forum wasn’t loaded with PvP supporters. The PvE community would love this idea. This game isn’t just PvP it’s also PvE

  • @coffeelight5545

    It's PvEvP, (or PvPvE), and both PvE and PvP are integral parts of the game which must be considered when creating ideas and suggestions for new elements of the game. I myself support both PvP and PvE, and while yes, this would be fine in PvE alone, it does have aspects which could be abused with PvP interactions.

  • @ultmateragnarok

    I can respect that but to dismiss the idea solely on people getting confused is bad. I see so many posts about people complaining about everything getting nerfed because the game is too hard.

    People complain about the volcanos in the devils roar so they make it easier. My idea would make PvP more of a challenge. You can’t just blindly assume it’s a Chest of Legends. You have to actually check or waste time.

    Do you really want this game with absolutely no risk?

  • @coffeelight5545 yea the pve community would love holding fake athenas on board to scare away pvp players LOL trueeeeeeeee. also i should say im probs more of a pve player, my pirate code is dont attack unless being attacked. so really i wouldnt call myself a pvp player but i hate the pve enthusiests ideology, so i dont like calling myself a pve player, cause i do love pvp, but i play by personal rules. im more of a hybrid. and like i said, your idea is ok when its not something you buy but something you find, but when it comes to buying them, its just a little unfair.

  • @coffeelight5545 i dont think thats risk, its more annoyance. also it would make it annoying for the player holding the chest, for example if they were holding a fake athena i imagine players would go sweat mode on them. its an annoyance on both parts, unless they made it so there was a clear difference in looks, and they maybe only had similar colours or watever, like i described earlier, then it would be ok. are you not ok with them being findable around the map? also i think its in the lore that they reuse the chests although i might be insane, but for watever reason i feel like they take the chests, and the PL himself refils them and burries them again or something like that, im sure someone will correct me

  • @d4m0r3d

    Personally myself, I just want a Legend collector’s chest because it looks cool.

    I know by using it I could easily attract unwanted attention and it’s not what I want but it’s the risk I must take if I want to use it. I’m just tired of the PvP community rejecting my ideas because it can easily trick them. I can see how it’s easy to confuse the two items but again a bait and switch was never my intention

  • @coffeelight5545 yea like i said i think we could have different styled chests, and legend looking chests, as long as they look more like thier own chest than they do the chest they are based on, that way it doesnt become an annoyance to players both pve and pvp. also i do believe the devs would only do this if they could only be found on the shores of beaches, and the way i see it working would be that the different collectors chests would have different amounts of gold in them. like rn i think you can find collectors chests with 1k in them, so what i reckon they should do is have like a captain collectors chest, and if that one is found it can have a minimum of 500, to 2.5k, and an athena can have a minimum of 1k, to 5 k in them, ofcoase athenas would be rarer than captains and captains rarer than regular ones. i feel like this could be cool. they already have that one thing that can only be found on beaches that sells for 30k.

  • @d4m0r3d

    At this point, I would settle for a collectors chest with fancy wallpaper. I wish they could look like actual chests but have the ability to open. Clearly I can’t get any support for my idea so it will most likely die here

  • @coffeelight5545 well like i said, we already have multiple different styles of collectors chests. we got the ancient, the lovers, the skelly one, the ashen one, and probs more that im just not remembering. so im sure they are probs already planning on adding more

  • @d4m0r3d this guy is right, we already have plenty and its just like finding a rowboat or something. you get more stuff as you go along and explore. just like wood or any resource you scavenge it. tho if i remember right they said that any puzzle gold hoarder quest will give a collectors chest so you can make sure you get one that way if thats the case.

    either way, not a bad idea but i just think its already fine as is.

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