PC advantage

  • @iii-porker-iii said in PC advantage:

    @ultmateragnarok optional criss play is the future. Forced cross play will kill the console industry. Many of the biggest games are first person shooters. Everyone knows pc has the advantage when it comes to these games. Many who choose to play on console dont want to sit at a desk and use a m&kb. Thats why we bought the console in the first place. We shouldn't be forced to just to compete. All other crossplay games have the option to opt out. Most Xbox players are simply asking for that option.

    Actually biggest games aren't first person shooters. The most played game consecutively for a long time was WoW. So if we go with numbers WoW is the deciding factor and was for a long time. A lot of companies tried to recreate WoW's type of gameplay and failed at it.

    The next thing is that a lot of the most critically acclaimed games are really difficult games.

    When they created Dark Souls they had meetings where the higher ups believed that the game was too hard and would fail. The wasn't the case. Dark Souls has created a cult following and if anyone creates a game and they say its like Dark Souls or as difficult as dark souls, then that cult is foaming at the mouth for its release.

    Theres a loyal fanbase, a fanbase, the casuals.

    The loyal fanbase is the small demographic that is completely in love with the games mechanics. The regular fanbase is in love with that type of genre, FPS, Adventure, PvP, etc etc. The casuals are the ones who just play a game because they think its cool and only play it for a little while until they find something else to play and never finish.

    Companies for some reason what ALL 3 fanbases so they try to cater to everyone. Only problem is you can't cater to everyone. This has been proven in arguments in the past with players arguing saying

    "Well its better to cater to everyone because thats where the money is" - Except they are arguing AGAINST the PvP communities type of play style. They argue against it while promoting everyones right to play how they want?? Like....really?? So you'll scream and shout everyone has a right to play how they want but then you condemn a PvP players way of playing??

    Cross play is going to be the future and no its not going to kill the console community. We say consoles but they are honestly just miniature computers. Thats it. They are built and games are created to optimize that hardware capabilities but lets not get stuck on semantics because consoles are small built PC's.

    M&K support is now available and so are different types of inputs. Except now its

    "well why should I have to buy something just to play the game?" - You don't. Just don't complain about fairness when someone else went out and bought it.

    "Well PC's still have better video quality!!" - So are screens look prettier. So?? Envy much??

    It boils down to money and whatever mumbo jumbo the xbox community wants to create to suggest unfairness.

    You don't want to use M&K, okay thats fine. Some PC players don't either, but we aren't allowed into the opt out servers.

    So you tell me where the fairness is in that and how its not prejudicial treatment of the PC community.

  • That kind of Reminds me, I've been playing forced crossplay both on Pc's and on Consoles since the early 2000's and I've never heard a peep from anyone on both consoles or PC.

    I've played Phantasy Star Online on my Gamecube with Pc players and I've played Final Fantasy XI on my PC with both PS2 players and later on with X-Box 360 players.

    Final Fantasy XIV has been crossplay for years now as well, and I've never seen anyone complain about people who use controllers, even better those controller users (yeah they never talk about the console or PC players but controller and KBM players) are kind of revered as they can play really well using an imput method that is strange to most MMORPG players.

    PC players have been in an enviroment where vastly different machines go head to head for the longest time now and the consoles are only now joining that space. Things are changing, buckle up because they will change even more.
    A few years ago software updates and iterations on hardware were unheard of and soon we'll just have a platform (Ps5 X-Box Scarlet) that can run a certain set of games but you can customize your consoles just like the PC has been customizable since the beginning.

    There's change coming and if you can't handle it then you'd better get into that bomb shelter because you're not going to like it out there.

    MWuhahahahaha (happy halloween btw :-) )

  • We lost all the loot just because we have a controller.

    Correction: you lost all the loot because your decision making is totaly off the charts and instead of geting better, you rather complain and demand things.

    We had no chance because they jumping around with either a sword and blunderbuss.

    Correction: you had no chance because you decided to stay there while a massive army was rolling up on you. How in the world can you make such a decission and then complain about loosing?

    If we're at the fort and a sloop, 2 brigs and a galleon show up, and we are so intelligent to decide to camp there, they have to be absolutely horrible players for us to come out of there alive. If you expect to handle this (no matter if pc or xbox) it's totaly on you that you've got sunk and lost all of it.
    Just the single fact that you have the audacity to complain, while you guys made a totaly poor decision, to tank 12 people in 4 ships while only beeing 3 makes this utterly ridiculous. I just can not take your post seriously... What the hell did you expect? To just facetank them and come out alive??

    I have to agree that xbox loading times are way longer than pc and this can lead to a serious disadvantage, but the rest man... that's totaly on you.

    This game is about strategy and skill, you better learn it, no matter the hardware you play on...

  • To be honest we should all be mad at Microsoft, until they changed the way recent players were shown, none of this was an issue.

    I will go so far as to say that it was a mistake to fix recent players list in a game like this. Back when recent players wasn't working you wouldn't get abusive message from the people you beat.

    I can say tho I have had some nice conversations with some crews after they messaged to say Good Fight, but those are the exception.

    Down with the fixes to the recent player list.

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  • @badassfro Yeah pretty sure you would like people not to be able to see recent players and identify the platform they are playing on even tho it's obvious by the way they play

  • @thafatslimshady said in PC advantage:

    So me and my freinds were doing the fort of the dammed, there was three of us so it took about an hour. ( we play on xbox btw) and we finished it hide the key and scan the horizon. We look around and see 2 brigs, a gallion, and a sloop come out from hiding, we know the key is hidden and safe so we lower sails and have a all out war. We had no chance because they jumping around with either a sword and blunderbuss. Or double gunning(wich btw is still possible on pc if u dont know) and loading in under 5 seconds while I literally took 97 seconds too load from the ferry of the dammed(not including the time loading into the ferry of the damned). We lost all the loot just because we have a controller.
    I love this game but that's really frustrating. And one of my freinds were on pc for half of it and he was the only one getting kills, but then he had too switch too xbox and we just didnt have a chance.

    bla bla bla bla NO THEY DON'T GET IT THOURGH YOUR HEAD YOUR LOST THAT BATTLE!

  • Personal advice, get good, bro...

    we were 4 players on galleon and all xbox, challenged all 5 ships on the server (for the FOTD), they were predominantly pc players, we won, owned them all, took their loot, slaughtered them and laughed on our way to the bank... which was even more funny because they were flexing on us before they go crushed. I laughed when they were sinking and dying, I've prolly never laughed so hard in my life... and I even told them, their maneuvers and ship handling was terrible and we would crush them easily (because I'm helmsgod) ... but they were too self-consumed to ever hear my warnings.

    Oh god, i love crushing noobs and stomping their faces. And so should you, get that fire started, transcend your limitations and become a god like me... I'll C U when U get there, if U ever get there \o/

  • @tak225 said in PC advantage:

    @badassfro Yeah pretty sure you would like people not to be able to see recent players and identify the platform they are playing on even tho it's obvious by the way they play

    True, but you would only have had a "feeling" they were playing on PC, if you choose to blame that for why you lost then fair enough.

    Like I said it wasn't an issue on the forums until everyone that loses was able to blame the "PC Bogeyman" by being able to confirm they went against PC players.

    And I still stand by the fact, none of you bother checking if you beat someone so there is no way to know if you have been beating PC players.

    Actually on a side note, I wonder if these Xbox players actually bother with PvP. I have a feeling they don't, which could explain why non of them admit to checking players they beat......cause they don't

  • @badassfro Well you can tell by the way they play jumping around like crazy and the recent players list just confirms it as I said before easily identified usually having hardly any ganerscore or only playing play anywhere titles

  • @tak225 said in PC advantage:

    @badassfro Well you can tell by the way they play jumping around like crazy and the recent players list just confirms it as I said before easily identified usually having hardly any ganerscore or only playing play anywhere titles

    So how do you tell the elite controller users who can jump around the same. Or even the players with different control schemes?

    so I don't jump around you wouldn't know?

    What if they balanced the bunnyhopping? if they worked on preventing it like with the Double Gun. (Don't even start with the "but double gunning is still here" the fact is they have attempted to balance and fix it with the animations, doesn't mean that it's perfect yet)

    To be honest they did this with the render distance, did you know my £500 GPU is no better than your Xbox for the render distance. - That was a valid complaint at the start of the Game "Pc users can see further than us on Xbox" - do you know what happened to those threads?
    The PC community agreed and even provided screenshots to prove and help.
    Rare listened and the above was implemented,

    TLDR: What I'm getting at is if you're issues are with bunnyhopping why not request balance fixes to that? Instead you like this confrontation on here, I can tell by you're posts you don't care about the game and are only here for the drama.

  • @badassfro Elite controller as a input method is not the difference between mouse and keyboard as you would make it to be it's still controller Vs controller I have no issues going up against a elite controller playing on any game Vs m&k

  • @tak225 said in PC advantage:

    @badassfro Elite controller as a input method is not the difference between mouse and keyboard as you would make it to be it's still controller Vs controller I have no issues going up against a elite controller playing on any game Vs m&k

    But they allow users to do the exact thing you complain us PC users do. I'm not understanding, and is that the only thing you have to say the whole post, that you don't mind elite controllers?

    This just proves you don't want a discussion, you don't want a compromise. You just want the drama

    @Deckhands - what is the rules on purposefully trolling?

  • @badassfro I want opt out I don't want compromise the option in this game that all cross play titles I play give me a choice as should this I can opt out on pubg should I choose I can opt out on Fortnite I can opt out on gears 5 I can opt out on cod I can opt out on rocket league this game should be the same

  • @tak225 said in PC advantage:

    @badassfro I want opt out I don't want compromise the option in this game that all cross play titles I play give me a choice as should this I can opt out on pubg should I choose I can opt out on Fortnite I can opt out on gears 5 I can opt out on cod I can opt out on rocket league this game should be the same

    Then go play those games, they aren't SoT.

    Again all that proves is that you don't want to play this game. Why are you even here if not for the drama?

  • @tak225 You're making so many mistakes here. It's funny how you think that jumping is exclusive to PC. It's the A button on your controller (same as on my controller on my PC). You can also rebind it so it's easier to hit while doing other actions, and I'll give you another really great tip.....

    There's a USB slot in the front of your X-Box, if you go to your local electronics store and buy a Keyboard and Mouse set you can plug it in there (USB logo goes up btw Pro tip here) and you can play with that. So guess what? There's no way of spotting if someone is playing on X-Box or PC!

  • This is why we need the opt out

  • @hynieth said in PC advantage:

    @tak225 You're making so many mistakes here. It's funny how you think that jumping is exclusive to PC. It's the A button on your controller (same as on my controller on my PC). You can also rebind it so it's easier to hit while doing other actions, and I'll give you another really great tip.....

    There's a USB slot in the front of your X-Box, if you go to your local electronics store and buy a Keyboard and Mouse set you can plug it in there (USB logo goes up btw Pro tip here) and you can play with that. So guess what? There's no way of spotting if someone is playing on X-Box or PC!

    except the fact that k&m is almost unusable with xbox because it stutters and jerks the screen all the time since xbox hasn't got capacity to run smoothly with k&m in SOT... razer gaming k&m on my side so the equipment is no trash but a real thing. It's UNUSABLE... apart for chatting.

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