Stream Sniping Defense Options

Being an avid streamer of SoT, I honestly havent had many issues with stream sniping. I believe taking the GTs out should be the last thing Rare does. They don't even have the recent player list fixed yet. The only times I have heard of people being stream sniped is when that Streamer goes in game chat and broadcasts they are streaming. I never broadcast I am Streaming because of that issue. Do not remove gamertags Rare, please I repeat, do not remove gamertags!

@djd3athray All they need to do is have an option for Streamers to censor Gamertags.

If turned on (via settings) everyone’s known in game as “Player” or “Pirate” :)

I stand with the stream snipers!

@djd3athray stories like this show how unique this game is. Good stuff.

@wodyo Ah, this asinine argument. No, just because someone is a streamer doesn’t mean that they should have to deal with folks cheating - which is, essentially, what we call being able to see what another crew is doing without being there. It’s no different than using third party hacks to ESP where folks are, what they have and what they’re doing. The argument that cheating just goes with the territory, deal with it or stop streaming is just stupid.

Oh, they won't get rid of gamer tags - not as a default setting or anything.
They very much believe in the social aspect, even among different crews.
One of the purposes of the ferry of the damned is to help facilitate the sort of sportsmanship between crews that you experienced in that story.

I wouldn't worry about that. :)
I don't know what exactly they'll do... options for hiding names or blurring them out are the most obvious steps, but they may have come up with some other ideas.
Those settings would only be optional though. And the players hiding other players' names could be at a bit of a disadvantage - so, I don't think it'd ever become the main-stream way most players would play.

Rare absolutely wants all players to be able to socialize and connect, beyond that one session - if/when players wish to.

@pdt-mindstream I think that they will likely make it an option to disable tags on the streamer’s end rather than do away with them entirely. This won’t stop the snipers that recognize a streamer’s tag, but, I as a streamer don’t use the name of my channel as my gamertag.

It also won’t stop folks from server hopping and looking for Reaper flag locations.

I was actually wondering how lon they were going to tolerate the same guy showing up in all the weekly streams.

@pdt-mindstream Sorry, but if you point is socialize, then removing the gamer tag, would make the game more "real".
you don't have a name over your head?? or aleast I dont think you do ;)
So by removing it, you make room for introduction.
instead of running up to people an say they name to get in contact with them.
only problem there is all the players without mic.
but rare could do something where you could say new different stuff to introduce yourself if they did remove it.

@dyornos

NO dont make opt in! The thing is if U stream and think well yes gamertags is fine. Than u come across me and it shows my gamertag now i get sniped.

They want a "defense" for all in server not just for the streamer to decide wether there could be snipers or not.

I call for Nicknames!
Nicknames gives us pirates cool names and an option other than the weird gamertag u might have. I prefer Captain Castaway over Camelbarbeque18 (no not my GT but they are around)

Also u cannot join a nickname. U need a gamertag.
U can still become friends with the in-game emote make friends or talk/chat and ask for GT.

As i would like to add because i dont see this in the comments.
I read about the streamer being sniped, or streamer gets option to hide gamertag. But u need to think of the OTHER pirates in-game. If im the streamer, U Will be the one stream sniped. I show YOUR GT in stream and they join U. Without your permission. Thats what they need to fix. U dont fix this with a opt option to give to the streamer. As than i can still show YOUR GT and U can get sniped.

Also a comment about hopping for reaper flags.
It's total diffrent. I put up reaper flag. I show where i am.
It is not a diffrent crew who can show MY position to u. U can only see me when I decide to show myself with the reaper.

@wodyo

When in xbox party chat its not like really ignoring u.
When we go into a xbox party the in-game chat gets turned off automaticly. If u do not change settings in-game to show a talk bubble above your head than there is NO way of xbox party users to even recognise u are trying to communicate with them.

Wish they could co-excist.

@knifelife

If u cant see gamertag u cant random join there open crew spot. U can befriend them to join their ship. Or they just message people to invite.

Im cool with messaging as then there be a decicion made by the captain in game allready wether to accept this guy who saw u in another guys stream. But atm u can get joined without your permission. Thats where the problems is.

@murkrage

U start streaming. Run into enemy crew. I see there GT's in your stream. I add them on xbox and if they have open crew i can just join in. Now i stream sniped a ship.

Now im in the server with the streamer. I can see where streamer is. I can even troll the guy i took his ship from to get him out of his session and invite more friends to go get that streamer for example.

Never will i troll as i dont live under a bridge. Its just an example.

@murkrage

Ill try again to explain.

How big are chances? Well i reckon big enough if Rare decides to mention this in a developer update. If it would not be a problem at all it wouldnt be mentioned.

And no u dont watch stream and by chance be in same server.

U are not playing atm.
I start up SoT and go Stream.
U go and check my stream.
I run into enemy crew and in my stream U can see the enemy gamertag.
U add enemy gamertag as friend. If crew open, u join.
If crew closed u message him to add u and invite u.
NOW u are in my server, where i am streaming.
U just streamsniped a ship and since u are in same server as me. U can decide to just annoy me. U know where i am. U know where i hid my loot etc etc.

@murkrage

I never had it happen. Never anyone messaged me.
But like i said its mentioned in the developers update.
All points i made are the ones Legendary Three Sheets Neat said. He talked about randoms join open crew or even spam message if its a closed crew.

Yes there are ifs but to some people that are not enough ifs. As it seem to happen and Rare seems to think of ways to counter this.

To go back on topic tho.
I wrote it earlier in this thread. Make nicknames for pirates. All problems are solved, as u wont be able to join a nickname.

@Murkrage
It does solve the problem. If u nickname other than your GT.
U dont want to. U are allowed to keep them the same and then it does not solve the problem indeed. But adding the option would actually help solve it. Just depends on wether u as a player take GT as Nick or u take a diffrent one.

@knifelife
Yes it can be done that way. But there are lots who dont know to do this apperently.

@wodyo Whoa. “A chance to play with you...” lol. Yeah, that’s what stream sniping is. I play with members of my community all the time. Big difference between that and dealing with cheaters.

Some don't seem to realize that there are not only people that commit themselves to regularly doing this to popular streamers... there are actual groups built around the premise.

And it doesn't matter if YOU think it's not a problem. Rare does.
They're not going to screw up the game by implementing some counters to this tactic. They can't eliminate the possibility entirely, but they can help out with some aspects of the tiny loop holes some people have picked up on.

You don't want to get rid of gamer-tags by default, because that's how players can remember each other and hook up again after a session. They don't want to remove that. However, they may give the player (and streamer) the option to hide the tags from view, so that the odd snipers don't have the option to jump on those crews any longer.

And it's not JUST a matter of snipers politely messaging/asking and/or loading into players' ships that they've seen on a stream... some snipers can be very insistent and may bring in multiple friends, brig the original player, to get them off their new ship.

Anyway, it's not a huge deal... and it's not nothing. It's just a thing... and there's some room for solving a bit of it.

Again, it doesn't matter if you don't think it's a big deal. Rare very much likes people streaming their game, and they've repeatedly heard about this issue (they've experienced it themselves, albeit in a friendly-ish way) and they believe they can fix it a little.
Yay.

I welcome it, come find my stream on twitch same name as here, come snipe me. I am usually at a skull fort defending the skull keeping that cloud in the sky as long as possible. if someone want to stream snipe me i would love that , Bring on the PvP. but do me a favor if you manage to skin us please send me a chat saying you sniped me in twitch and ill throw a banner up with your twitch name ect maybe put a crown on it. Less get it!!!!!!! Hypppppeeeeee!!!!!!!