Please tell me Rare made it so everyone in the Alliance receives the full turn in value of the items?
Alliance rewards?
@xrekkoffx Ahoy matey!
The crew handing them in gets 100% of the rewards and the rest of the alliance get a 50% cut each.
Not a bad deal in my opinion, especially when this continues as they hand in chests, skulls, and animals from their own quests.
What way does it work for faction rep?
Or is it just monetary gain... no merchant rep?
ie. OoS skull handed in... does the other part of the Alliance get rep at half the rate?Just finishing the side story today... so Iam yet to step into the Alliance Battles.
@piratecraggy As far as I understand, you usually gain reputation for a specific trading company equal to the amount of gold you sell your item. So, I believe you will also gain reputation in an alliance equal to the amount of gold you receive.
@piratecraggy Merchant rep works the exact same way as gold, you get a 50% cut of it. But you do not get anything towards commendations eg chests cashed in or miles traveled.
Thanks guys, just wanted that cleared up, was a little uncertain on the full mechanics... :-)
@musicmee thats great news! if the turning in team gets 100% that will make life better for the smaller guys. Like say there is a fort and a galleon is there. If you ally up with them as a solo they dont have to kill you haha. You get half the islands loot and they get it all but a helper. WIN WIN WIN.
@sirliborius Not sure on that one as I didn't keep a close eye on it... But I think that one should count up as that's relative to your gold counter.
@musicmee I guess too, but we will see.
This system can speed up the run towards Pirate Legend massively, can't wait to finally give it a go.@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
So the value magically doubles if its split between a second crew?
That's crazy talk.
That would be kind of broken imo. At that point, entire server just allies up and does voyages all day. No downsides.
So it doesn't magically double when you share it with 1,2, or 3 crew members lol Mechanic is already broken.
@dragonsire2016 said in Alliance rewards?:
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
So the value magically doubles if its split between a second crew?
That's crazy talk.
That would be kind of broken imo. At that point, entire server just allies up and does voyages all day. No downsides.
So it doesn't magically double when you share it with 1,2, or 3 crew members lol Mechanic is already broken.
The crew is the crew. It makes sense that individuals in a crew would get all the same amount.
If it split between players there'd be an even bigger issue with afks, and people would probably only run sloops because maximizing payouts.
Mechanically, that's sound. Otherwise, forming a crew up is just pointless, and the worst way to play.
100% of payout to people you just kind of sailed by just turns the game into "sail by every ship, form alliance, everyone pays out 100%" as if getting to PL without such a grind hasn't already been adressed by doubloons.
@musicmee said in Alliance rewards?:
@xrekkoffx Ahoy matey!
The crew handing them in gets 100% of the rewards and the rest of the alliance get a 50% cut each.
Not a bad deal in my opinion, especially when this continues as they hand in chests, skulls, and animals from their own quests.
Woah, thanks for the tip. That sucks, to be honest. I'd expect it to be 50/50 so there is no fight about who picks up what. It seems that no matter how much you try to cooperate, one crew will get screwed.
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
@dragonsire2016 said in Alliance rewards?:
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
So the value magically doubles if its split between a second crew?
That's crazy talk.
That would be kind of broken imo. At that point, entire server just allies up and does voyages all day. No downsides.
So it doesn't magically double when you share it with 1,2, or 3 crew members lol Mechanic is already broken.
The crew is the crew. It makes sense that individuals in a crew would get all the same amount.
If it split between players there'd be an even bigger issue with afks, and people would probably only run sloops because maximizing payouts.
Mechanically, that's sound. Otherwise, forming a crew up is just pointless, and the worst way to play.
100% of payout to people you just kind of sailed by just turns the game into "sail by every ship, form alliance, everyone pays out 100%" as if getting to PL without such a grind hasn't already been adressed by doubloons.
It's faster to earn gold with greater numbers, splitting treasure happens in virtually every game. If you want it in alliances it only makes sense to do it across the board. Solo players should be rewarded for playing by themselves, it's much harder.
@tre-oni Yep. In one fell swoop, Rare has brought in unofficial PvE servers, and exacerbated the already prevalent AFK leech issue. Now entire crews can leech. The benefit here is you can break the alliance if you notice it happening.
But the game will turn into server wide alliances so people can maximize efficiency...
@xcalypt0x said in Alliance rewards?:
@tre-oni Yep. In one fell swoop, Rare has brought in unofficial PvE servers, and exacerbated the already prevalent AFK leech issue. Now entire crews can leech. The benefit here is you can break the alliance if you notice it happening.
But the game will turn into server wide alliances so people can maximize efficiency...
I think you will actually see a larger split in the middle. there will be PVE farms, and PVP players who abuse alliances to just steal lot and take advantage of situations. not much in the way of middle ground.
@tre-oni no Imagine Three Galleons and every Galleon is doing her own Athena Voyage but you’re Allies, imagine how fast you increase your Athena Rep
@xrekkoffx Lol its nice for you to complain about PvE instead of "mindless" PvP.... When 90% of your post are complaints one has to consider its the person doing the posting....
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
@dragonsire2016 said in Alliance rewards?:
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
So the value magically doubles if its split between a second crew?
That's crazy talk.
That would be kind of broken imo. At that point, entire server just allies up and does voyages all day. No downsides.
So it doesn't magically double when you share it with 1,2, or 3 crew members lol Mechanic is already broken.
The crew is the crew. It makes sense that individuals in a crew would get all the same amount.
If it split between players there'd be an even bigger issue with afks, and people would probably only run sloops because maximizing payouts.
Mechanically, that's sound. Otherwise, forming a crew up is just pointless, and the worst way to play.
100% of payout to people you just kind of sailed by just turns the game into "sail by every ship, form alliance, everyone pays out 100%" as if getting to PL without such a grind hasn't already been adressed by doubloons.
Alliance exploit
The "problem" here is that you can take all the benefit from an alliance, get your loot and break the alliance with no repercussions. It's already happening.
Since this is a thieving game, I don't really think that's the problem (even though it sucks). I DO think your crew should immediately be informed when a crew breaks the alliance, and there should be a buffer period after they break the alliance. So it takes 15-30 minutes before the alliance officially ends. Enough to have a chance to adequately engage the betrayer before they get away with your loot.
Also alliance members should be shown in blue font.
@tre-oni said in Alliance rewards?:
So the value magically doubles if its split between a second crew?
That's crazy talk.
That would be kind of broken imo. At that point, entire server just allies up and does voyages all day. No downsides.
Not kind of broken, it is broken.
Perhaps the payout is too high, but IMO, if lowered, there still needs to be an increase in profit for all when in an alliance. Otherwise I don't think there is enough incentive to make alliances. Maybe something like 100% for the turning in crew, and 10% for the other crew(s). 10% may make them think it's not worth it, and still leave chance for betrayal.
I like the level of Full/Half reward currently set for the alliance. its' certainly no more or less broken then getting the same take for a one person crew as a 4 person crew.
Alternatively, it would be interesting to see a "realistic" division of profit based solely on crew members. One man crew gets 100%, two man crew gets 50/50, three man 33/33/33. etc. But that's a whole different barrel of sea monkeys.
I think there should be a second level of alliance you can have with one other crew, effectively making them part of your crew (safe from your weapons). Still at the Full/Half reward.
In addition, I'd like to see the max alliance allowed to be half of the server, along with a slight increase in the numbers allowed on a server.
@brotherbilo300 said in Alliance rewards?:
I just finished my emissary voyage for athenas legends and was in an alliance. I got zero xp and gold for my chest of legends....I ended the alliance and proceeded to get my xp and gold when I turned the rest in.
this was 2 years ago..
It's also just a bug delaying the payout
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