Sloop/Galleon Speed - A Tale of Woe

  • I'm no proffesional in ships, but after a bit of google investigations, I've come to understand that the game seem to be doing it right:

    A small ship, such as the sloop, creates less resistance against the wind and goes faster than a massive ship.

    A Large ship that gains momentum is capable of sailing "over" or ignoring the resistance of waves more easily, thus attaining greater maximum speed with full wind.

    I think that with the sloop gaining up to 4 crew members, the galleon will remain an attractive powerful and fast ship, where as the sloop will become and even more dangerous slightly slower in full wind and certainly more fragile, but very agile ship.

    Making the sloop faster than the galleon would feel extremely strange to me.

    PS: Please correct my science if you must, but provide sources!

    "Generally bigger boats with a long waterline length have the ability to go faster. In displacent mode their hull speed in knots is a factor (usually taken as 1.34) x the square root of the waterline length in feet. I say usually because the hull design can mean this factor varies. This calculation is due to the propagation of a bow wave that a boat can't easily sail over. It takes a lot of power. In any case if you b**g in the numbers longer boats go faster and generally that is the case, which is why in rating rules bigger boats generally need to complete a course quicker than a smaller boat."

    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-bigger-sailboats-would-have-faster-top-speed-than-smaller-ones-Even-with-similar-displacement-sail-area-ratio-and-displacement-length-ratio-If-so-why

  • We sail with a galleon. We don´t care if you have loot or not and we are experienced enough and know our ship. We never lost a chase or a fight vs. a sloop! NEVER!

    Yes a sloop can turn faster then we can but that´s all this ship can.

    • Oh you drop the anchor. We have also one dropped.
    • You drive against the wind? No Problem. We can wait and the world is small.
    • You sail through rocks. No Problem. We can sail in nearly every situation the same way.
    • You try to use a barel? No problem. If you really reach our ship and don´t get killed by one of us there is always someone rapairing the ship.
    • You try get on our ship to pull our anchor? No problem. We are 4, you´re alone and we ALWAYS have our ladders under vison. You´ll never get on our ship alive.
    • Your sloop is small? No problem. We sunk many ships, we know where to shoot at and we got 340 cannonballs you got max. 110 planks.

    A good crew we are. We know our ship and we know how to sail and destroy other.

    To the point. I also don´t understand the fact a galleon is faster than a sloop. There is no reason and it´s very unbalanced. A sloop can turn very fast but with a good crew and the experience how to act in this situation we can turn nearly the same way and with the speed of a galleon you will see us very soon this near so we can shoot on your small ship either with cannonballs or with a crew member who will kill you, pull your anchor and the rest is known very well.
    Also there were so many situations we rammed sloops and jump on their ship, killed them and watched them sinking.

    4 man are a massive advantage over 1 or 2. This alone should be the reason a sloop shouldn´t be slower.

  • @scurvytyphus said in Sloop/Galleon Speed - A Tale of Woe:

    Yes, a sloop is faster than a galleon.

    Sloop = lighter (less water displacement/resistance), more streamlined hull, and thus a fast mover (with the wind).

    Galleon = heavy (water displacement and corresponding friction (i.e. resistance), cumbersome (i.e. not streamlined), and less fast than a much smaller sailed vessel.

    The laws of physics applies to maritime vessels as it does to most everything else in life.

    That's not how physics work. Longer ships are faster than shorter. A galleon should outrun a small vessel easily.

  • @falk-van-cleef NO, you are right about the bit about longer ships(hull speed et al.), and if it was a frigate you would probably be right, however due to the times a galleon was less than optimally designed, and these WERE slower than sloops. From what I could find on ye ole web, top speeds of a Galleon was around 7-8 knots and a Sloop 11-12 knots.

  • @verminpup I sail a sloop and no galleon can out sail me and my crew :) It's not always about sailing with the wind where the galleon, with its 3 sails, is faster than its 1 sail counterpart. :D

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