Question about Eye of Reach

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas It has everything to do with it. If you put a spot on the dead center of your screen - or use a crosshairs - and fired the weapon... the bullet would have to hit the point of the crosshairs or spot everytime in order to be able to say that the weapon always hits dead center. But, that isn’t what happens.

Yep that is exactly what happens.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas It has everything to do with it. If you put a spot on the dead center of your screen - or use a crosshairs - and fired the weapon... the bullet would have to hit the point of the crosshairs or spot everytime in order to be able to say that the weapon always hits dead center. But, that isn’t what happens.

Yep that is exactly what happens.

And you’re basing that conclusion on what? A visual of the tracer? You say don’t go check the bullet holes, but if you’re hipfiring at the same spot with crosshair, and the bullets are not hitting that same spot - as evidenced by the bullet impact marks, then it is not hitting the same spot... meaning, it’s not always hitting dead center. If it were, you would see bullet marks on top of bullet marks... or just one mark. Right?

"And you’re basing that conclusion on what?"

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"If it were, you would see bullet marks on top of bullet marks... or just one mark. Right?"

Its weird how you don't understand why what you are saying is irrelevant. It doesn't matter where the bullets land. OP was asking if it hits dead center when hipfired. It does. Dead center does not mean the bullets land in the same place. I don't even understand how you are making that connection as it makes no sense. The reason why the hip fire is so accurate is because of all the other things in the game that negatively effect accuracy.

Basing whether or not the EoR hip fire is "dead center" on a picture of bullet holes is pretty cringey... lol

@mysticlullaby17 said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas What an interesting theory we have here. As the world's only player who insists that EoR hits dead center from hipfire, can you logically explain how you think so and , if possible, prove it? No offense, just asking out of pure curiosity.

Calm down. Its weird how upset the lot of you are, and how much you care about arguing over semantics.

Yea of course I can logically explain, and you can even prove it yourself. Instead of basing your argument on a picture of bullet holes (lol) maybe instead just use the weapon on flat ground hip firing. You'll see the bullet fire out the weapon and go in the same "dead center" arc everytime. You remember how OP was talking about close range combat and people hip firing with it? Meaning arguing about whether or not it consistently can hit a target from 200 meters away while being fired when few people can even do that scoped in; is completely irrelevant.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas It doesn’t matter where the bullets land when determining whether or not the EoR always hits dead center? Explain that, please?

If the EoR always hit dead center, and the dead center of the screen (where crosshairs would be) were always on the same spot, the bullets would impact in that same spot, meaning the bullets landed in the same spot. But, the evidence contradicts that.

You just changed the argument.

The EoR doesn't always hit dead center; the hipfire does. You are now attempting to change the argument and twist things around.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@mysticlullaby17 said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas What an interesting theory we have here. As the world's only player who insists that EoR hits dead center from hipfire, can you logically explain how you think so and , if possible, prove it? No offense, just asking out of pure curiosity.

Calm down. Its weird how upset the lot of you are, and how much you care about arguing over semantics.

Yea of course I can logically explain, and you can even prove it yourself. Instead of basing your argument on a picture of bullet holes (lol) maybe instead just use the weapon on flat ground hip firing. You'll see the bullet fire out the weapon and go in the same "dead center" arc everytime. You remember how OP was talking about close range combat and people hip firing with it? Meaning arguing about whether or not it consistently can hit a target from 200 meters away while being fired when few people can even do that scoped in; is completely irrelevant.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas It doesn’t matter where the bullets land when determining whether or not the EoR always hits dead center? Explain that, please?

If the EoR always hit dead center, and the dead center of the screen (where crosshairs would be) were always on the same spot, the bullets would impact in that same spot, meaning the bullets landed in the same spot. But, the evidence contradicts that.

You just changed the argument.

The EoR doesn't always hit dead center; the hipfire does. You are now attempting to change the argument and twist things around.

No, I didn't change the argument, we were talking about hipfiring and my statement about the EoR should be taken in that context. Hipfiring any firearm in the game doesn't always result in a hit dead center - each weapon has a hipfire spread. I've just made a video proving this point. I'll put a link to it as soon as it's processed and uploaded.

I will say this... after doing this video, I will never use a blunderbuss unless I know I'm going to be really, really close. Hipfiring the EoR and the Pistol are much more accurate if you can practice lining up the center of your screen.

"No, I didn't change the argument"

Yea you did.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas

Here you go... put to rest. The EoR doesn't always hit dead center when hip firing. None of the weapons do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3usrio3rWi4

Video proves it hits dead center. Just like I said.

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

The EoR doesn't always hit dead center; the hipfire does.

Is this real life?

I can't help but ask the same thing. The EoR isn't a hipfire only weapon lol.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@personalc0ffee Well, outside influences aside, the question was whether or not a person could point the dead center of the screen at an enemy and hit whatever was under that point every time when hip firing. It’s impossible and the outside influences you mention make it that much more difficult. But, the hip fire accuracy of the EoR is in-line with the pistol. I think, perhaps, the spread should be much wider for hipfiring a rifle like that. Not as bad as the blunderbuss, but not what it is currently.

Given that the other guy has stopped responding, I’m going to assume the video is proof enough. I wish there were more videos like that. I’d love one for ranging cannons.

Video proves me right.

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@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Yea I play on Xbox and its dead center hip firing.

It's not dead center, it has bloom but usually if you hit from close the bloom doesn't matter.

So it does hit dead center then...

No? If you're close to someone the shot can arc upward, side to side, etc but it can still hit their body if it doesn't have a ton of travel time? That doesn't mean it's dead center, which it's not.

You keep explaining that it does hit dead center...

You say it "can" miss. No need to be so argumentative. You're agreeing with me.

"Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?"

Answer is yes.

I don't think dead center means what you think it means.

It is was always dead center, ie it hit the same spot over and over, it would have 100% precision. It does not have 100% precision when no scoping, ergo it does not hit dead center every time.

Weird I don't recall OP asking if hipfiring had 100% accuracy...

@daddy-sanctus said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

Thanks for pointing out how you were wrong thanks. I love the lack of self-awareness and narcissism. Hilarious, so confident your quotes do anything besides back up what I said.

@dutchyankee said in Question about Eye of Reach:

#1 The EoR does NOT fire “dead center” from the hip. This is a fact that you can easily test in game. (Or even ask Rare)
#2 If you do not agree with the statement above then you do not (at the very least) properly understand the definition of “dead-center”.
#3 Both the above statements are not my opinion. They are what used to be known as scientifically supportable evidence based truths; or FACTS. I realize that the younger generation seems inclined to believe that their opinion “counts” where FACTS are concerned. This would be another mistake.

1. It does though.

2. You are projecting.

3. Actually both of those statements are your opinion. I realize that the younger generation were never taught what semantics is, or how to actually provide a coherent argument, but making a statement and making zero attempt to back it up is proof you are part of this younger generation kid.

I love how you mention scientifically supportable evidence. Despite the fact that you just proved you don't know what the word scientific means, you failed to provide any evidence supporting your claim.

According to supportable evidence, aka the definition of dead center, the sniper rifle does indeed hit dead center when hip fired.

Continuing to argue about semantics without making any attempt to actually back up your claims makes you look childish.

@daddy-sanctus said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Well.... that escalated quickly. LoL

I’ll do some testing when I get home and check out the accuracy. I guess I always assumed it wouldn’t be that accurate unless scoped in. But it appears that at close enough ranges, the variance in bullet spread leaves the EoR as a formidable hipfire PvP weapon.

Thanks for all the input everyone!

See, even OP agrees it hits dead center. Its almost as if OP doesn't care about semantics, and wasn't trying to figure out the exact percentage accuracy of the EoR, and was just saying "dead center" in reference to whether or not it was capable of reliably hitting the center of the screen.

Weird how all of you assumed OP cared about semantics and the exact percentage of the EoR in hipfire, despite him never mentioning either of those things, in his first post, and this one. Hmmmm. lol

@lenny2k3 said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:> >

Weird I don't recall OP asking if hipfiring had 100% accuracy...

@daddy-sanctus said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

REALLY makes me think.

"The reason why you are ignoring the rest of what I'm saying is because it is objectively true and you are a narcissist. Again, you are projecting" - le projection dude.

This line should be given an award for it's absurdity. Top lel.

I didn't ignore anything anyone said. That said, you are still in here arguing lol.

@personalc0ffee said in Question about Eye of Reach:

The EoR does not fire dead center when fired from the hip.

There

Now, take into consideration stability, ship wobble, gun wobble, recoil, etc. etc.

There's no way the gun fires dead center every time. Could you get dead center sometimes while firing, I believe you could but it will not do it every time. It is going to be off to the left or right.

If you want true dead center, you ADS.

It does hit dead center though. Everyone including OP just agreed that it does hit dead center, or are you another one of these kids that is going to throw a temper tantrum and argue about semantics in an attempt to embarrass yourself? OP didn't ask if the EoR was 100% accurate when hipfiring, he asked if it hit dead center lol.

And you are "taking into consideration" things that literally do not exist in the game lol.

I love how many of you have no idea what you are talking about but just weigh in with an opinion regardless, I guess because playing a video game makes you an expert on it? lol

You say a lot for a guy who clearly doesn't understand the English language.

OP asked if it always hits dead center. This is the same as asking, not just implying but literally by definition, if it has 100% precision and 100% accuracy.

It is always aimed at dead center, sure. I'd be hard pressed to name many games/weapons that don't aim at the center of the viewing area when fired.

But aiming and hitting are two different things entirely. Does it always hit dead center? No, it demonstrably does not.

You are projecting. Making yet another claim without any attempt to actually back it up.

"This is the same as asking, not just implying but literally by definition, if it has 100% precision and 100% accuracy."

You just said I don't understand the English language, but you just proved you don't even understand the basics of forming an argument. No actually objectively speaking it is not the same, hence why the definition of "dead center" does not include anything related to if it has 100% precision and 100% accuracy.

It seems like you are a narcissist. OP replied and confirmed what I said. Your arguments work against yourself, and you make zero attempt to explain them.

"It is always aimed at dead center, sure."

Definitely narcissism. How is that relevant to what is being discussed? Notice how you can't actually reference the definition of "dead center" but can't even explain what you mean without referring to something completely different?

"I'd be hard pressed to name many games/weapons that don't aim at the center of the viewing area when fired."

Gee golly, thanks for letting us know, I couldn't imagine going through life without knowing such relevant information to this discussion.

"But aiming and hitting are two different things entirely."

I love how you keep going, its cute. Just a random tangent about something that has nothing to do with anything.

"Does it always hit dead center? No, it demonstrably does not."

Yea it does. Always.

Jesus man, you're still arguing about this despite everyone showing you evidence and refuting it. I've never seen someone type so much stuff just to prevent themselves from admitting they were wrong.

No one has provided any evidence. You are projecting. Evidence proves me right.

@spitfire1208 said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@cptbartroberts LOL Not ever all you have to do is remember where the center of the screen is and put your target their no need for markings because guns are not supposed to fire willy nilly in different directions when hip firing they will still hit their mark like a real gun

Yep.

@pdt-mindstream said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Does any gun always hit DEAD CENTER?
No.

Is DEAD CENTER of your screen the central point for the radius of any gun's bullets?
Yes.

Do people have issue discussing things?
Yes.

Yes they do.

"Is DEAD CENTER of your screen the central point for the radius of any gun's bullets?"

Why lie? The definition proves you are wrong.

"Do people have issue discussing things?"

Said the guy who just lied about a definition.

@entspeak said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@personalc0ffee Yep. Definitely the best hip fire weapon, atm.

Yep. Exactly what I said. Its weird how I have people agreeing with me still.

@lady-aijou said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@CondorCalabasas Please refrain from calling other users names, baiting, and antagonizing others in order to incite argument. It is a a violation of our
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Just because someone reports me for correcting them. Other people were baiting and antagonizing me. Notice how I have several people all replying to me and I haven't replied to anyone? Kind of impossible to troll anyone when I came here replying to OP and no one else.

I'm the only one here in trying to stay on topic, I literally said many times we were all the same page, and yet I still get people arguing with me, talking trash, but you do literally nothing about their posts? Mods have zero self-awareness too?

Nothing I did is a violation of any forum rules.

"Creating threads, posts and content for the sole purpose of causing unrest"

I answered the question.

"Making off topic posts to derail the conversation"

So you are agreeing that everyone who has replied to me so far is making off topic posts to derail the conversation. How many times have you seen someone mention something that has nothing to do with "dead center" why is it that all these people replying to me refuse to even use the definition?

"Excessively using the same phrase, similar phrases, or gibberish"

You just described everyone who just replied to me.

"Bullying and encouraging users to bully others."

You just described all the posts replying to me.

"Ignoring the warning will result in a temporary ban from the Forums and a final warning. If the action continues, a permanent ban from the Forums will be issued."

What happens if you don't do your job and actually ban people who are doing the trolling? According to what you just said, people have been breaking the rules in this thread since the first response to me, and including every response to me afterwards. I don't see you don't anything about any of that.

@callmebackdraft said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas Here you have your video proof, the eye of reach does NOT allways hit dead center, taken on stable land with the wooden hitmarkers as proof, is this argument finally done now ?!

Video proves it does hit dead center. Always.

@urihamrayne said in Question about Eye of Reach:

class today in this thread we learned how to butcher the word "projecting", please use a dictionary.

btw shouldn't thiss thread be in gameplay help/tips?

You just proved you don't know what it means. Objectively speaking.

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys might actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting that upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys would actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

Unfortunately, as the video shows, at close range the EoR hits dead center with a 20% success rate when hip fired.

If the target were marked with rings and a bullseye, it would have hit the bullseye, mark, money, button, and point just once in five tries.

20% is not exactly correct nor absolutely right. It is mostly incorrect and mostly wrong.
20% is neither accurate nor precise.
20% is far from definite or direct.
20% is certainly not exact.
It is not "very accurate" but in fact very inaccurate. It is not unerring but in fact mostly erring.

All of these conditions are actually made worse the further you move away from your target.

And, unfortunately, when you fire more than once, which you must do for this question, you do need to hit the bullseye each time in order for the question

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

with a Yes.

Nope the video shows it hitting dead center 100% of the time actually.

20% Accuracy is actually extremely good.

As an ex pro gamer with tons of experience in all kinds of first person shooters, most pros average right around 20%.

See what you are doing again is arguing semantics.

And as an ex pro with a lot of experience, Sea of Thieves has by far the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire I've ever come across. The EoR out of all the weapons has the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire out of all the weapons in the game so far.

Its funny how many of you use double think, and make no attempt to actually look at the situation as a whole. You have no proof, you don't use the definition of the word, and you don't even make any attempt to consider context (what OP meant).

Weird, OP didn't reply correcting himself saying he actually meant 100% accuracy when hipfiring. Otherwise he would've said it. And then theres the whole thing that it literally makes no logical sense what so ever that he would even want to know if it was "100%" accurate when hip firing.

How is it possible that not one of you has considered that he just wanted to know if there was anything fishy going on with people consistently hitting him with the hip fire from the EoR. Why is that?

Can anyone of you explain how it makes any sense that OP would be asking if it was 100% accurate when being hipfired when he didn't mention that anywhere? In his initial post, or any of the replies. lol

Everything you've said in this post is irrelevant, because you are now changing the argument. The video shows the EoR hitting the dead center of the screen 100% of the time.

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys would actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

Unfortunately, as the video shows, at close range the EoR hits dead center with a 20% success rate when hip fired.

If the target were marked with rings and a bullseye, it would have hit the bullseye, mark, money, button, and point just once in five tries.

20% is not exactly correct nor absolutely right. It is mostly incorrect and mostly wrong.
20% is neither accurate nor precise.
20% is far from definite or direct.
20% is certainly not exact.
It is not "very accurate" but in fact very inaccurate. It is not unerring but in fact mostly erring.

All of these conditions are actually made worse the further you move away from your target.

And, unfortunately, when you fire more than once, which you must do for this question, you do need to hit the bullseye each time in order for the question

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

with a Yes.

Nope the video shows it hitting dead center 100% of the time actually.

20% Accuracy is actually extremely good.

As an ex pro gamer with tons of experience in all kinds of first person shooters, most pros average right around 20%.

See what you are doing again is arguing semantics.

And as an ex pro with a lot of experience, Sea of Thieves has by far the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire I've ever come across. The EoR out of all the weapons has the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire out of all the weapons in the game so far.

Its funny how many of you use double think, and make no attempt to actually look at the situation as a whole. You have no proof, you don't use the definition of the word, and you don't even make any attempt to consider context (what OP meant).

Weird, OP didn't reply correcting himself saying he actually meant 100% accuracy when hipfiring. Otherwise he would've said it. And then theres the whole thing that it literally makes no logical sense what so ever that he would even want to know if it was "100%" accurate when hip firing.

How is it possible that not one of you has considered that he just wanted to know if there was anything fishy going on with people consistently hitting him with the hip fire from the EoR. Why is that?

Can anyone of you explain how it makes any sense that OP would be asking if it was 100% accurate when being hipfired when he didn't mention that anywhere? In his initial post, or any of the replies. lol

Everything you've said in this post is irrelevant, because you are now changing the argument. The video shows the EoR hitting the dead center of the screen 100% of the time.

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys would actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

Unfortunately, as the video shows, at close range the EoR hits dead center with a 20% success rate when hip fired.

If the target were marked with rings and a bullseye, it would have hit the bullseye, mark, money, button, and point just once in five tries.

20% is not exactly correct nor absolutely right. It is mostly incorrect and mostly wrong.
20% is neither accurate nor precise.
20% is far from definite or direct.
20% is certainly not exact.
It is not "very accurate" but in fact very inaccurate. It is not unerring but in fact mostly erring.

All of these conditions are actually made worse the further you move away from your target.

And, unfortunately, when you fire more than once, which you must do for this question, you do need to hit the bullseye each time in order for the question

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

with a Yes.

Nope the video shows it hitting dead center 100% of the time actually.

20% Accuracy is actually extremely good.

As an ex pro gamer with tons of experience in all kinds of first person shooters, most pros average right around 20%.

See what you are doing again is arguing semantics.

And as an ex pro with a lot of experience, Sea of Thieves has by far the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire I've ever come across. The EoR out of all the weapons has the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire out of all the weapons in the game so far.

Its funny how many of you use double think, and make no attempt to actually look at the situation as a whole. You have no proof, you don't use the definition of the word, and you don't even make any attempt to consider context (what OP meant).

Weird, OP didn't reply correcting himself saying he actually meant 100% accuracy when hipfiring. Otherwise he would've said it. And then theres the whole thing that it literally makes no logical sense what so ever that he would even want to know if it was "100%" accurate when hip firing.

How is it possible that not one of you has considered that he just wanted to know if there was anything fishy going on with people consistently hitting him with the hip fire from the EoR. Why is that?

Can anyone of you explain how it makes any sense that OP would be asking if it was 100% accurate when being hipfired when he didn't mention that anywhere? In his initial post, or any of the replies. lol

Everything you've said in this post is irrelevant, because you are now changing the argument. The video shows the EoR hitting the dead center of the screen 100% of the time.

Sadly, always does in fact mean 100% of the time, and it is proven false by the very first shot, which does not hit dead center.

Unless your definition of dead center means the entire field of view, since always would also mean at any distance, and the spread increases with greater distance. Which would also mean the blunderbuss always hits dead center too.

"Sadly, always does in fact mean 100% of the time"

Yep. So if it always hits dead center 100% of the time, then it hits dead center always.

"and it is proven false by the very first shot, which does not hit dead center."
Its proven true by the very first shot, which does indeed hit dead center.

"Unless your definition of dead center means the entire field of view, since always would also mean at any distance, and the spread increases with greater distance. Which would also mean the blunderbuss always hits dead center too."

What do you mean? My definition of dead center? lol

Its weird how you don't see what you just said applies better to you than it does to me; you're the one(s) who is(are) changing the definition of the word. This is the point I've been making the entire time. Dead center, nor any of the words related to it, specify. Meaning that is up to interpretation, where the most logical conclusion based on context is probably the best to go with. That said, it so also up to interpretation is arguing about something like that would be arguing semantics...

Meaning dead center in the context of a video game, could only logically mean the dead center of your screen. This is kind of hilarious really. So then, can you and everyone else feel free to explain what "your" definitions of dead center mean? Because I'm just using the one I found on the internet. All the explanations you use don't seem to line up with anything I'm finding online...

I'm really curious what your definition of dead center means...

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys would actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

Unfortunately, as the video shows, at close range the EoR hits dead center with a 20% success rate when hip fired.

If the target were marked with rings and a bullseye, it would have hit the bullseye, mark, money, button, and point just once in five tries.

20% is not exactly correct nor absolutely right. It is mostly incorrect and mostly wrong.
20% is neither accurate nor precise.
20% is far from definite or direct.
20% is certainly not exact.
It is not "very accurate" but in fact very inaccurate. It is not unerring but in fact mostly erring.

All of these conditions are actually made worse the further you move away from your target.

And, unfortunately, when you fire more than once, which you must do for this question, you do need to hit the bullseye each time in order for the question

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

with a Yes.

Nope the video shows it hitting dead center 100% of the time actually.

20% Accuracy is actually extremely good.

As an ex pro gamer with tons of experience in all kinds of first person shooters, most pros average right around 20%.

See what you are doing again is arguing semantics.

And as an ex pro with a lot of experience, Sea of Thieves has by far the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire I've ever come across. The EoR out of all the weapons has the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire out of all the weapons in the game so far.

Its funny how many of you use double think, and make no attempt to actually look at the situation as a whole. You have no proof, you don't use the definition of the word, and you don't even make any attempt to consider context (what OP meant).

Weird, OP didn't reply correcting himself saying he actually meant 100% accuracy when hipfiring. Otherwise he would've said it. And then theres the whole thing that it literally makes no logical sense what so ever that he would even want to know if it was "100%" accurate when hip firing.

How is it possible that not one of you has considered that he just wanted to know if there was anything fishy going on with people consistently hitting him with the hip fire from the EoR. Why is that?

Can anyone of you explain how it makes any sense that OP would be asking if it was 100% accurate when being hipfired when he didn't mention that anywhere? In his initial post, or any of the replies. lol

Everything you've said in this post is irrelevant, because you are now changing the argument. The video shows the EoR hitting the dead center of the screen 100% of the time.

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@lotrmith said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas said in Question about Eye of Reach:

Dead Center: "the exact center of something."

Synonyms for dead center:
exactly correct
accurate
precise
absolutely right
by the book
dead-center
definite
direct
exact
on the button
on the mark
on the money
on the nose
pinpoint
to the point
unerring
very accurate

More words related to dead center:
bull's-eye
center of a target
butt
center
dead center
direct hit
hole in one
home run
omphalos
quintain
target

So the definition proves I'm right, and you are all wrong objectively speaking. The video lines up with my definition aka the actual definition of the word; not your definitions.

"very accurate" Weird how it says that and not "100% accurate" like every single one of you has mentioned. This not only proves that I'm right and you are all wrong, but it also proves you were all arguing semantics like I said. Not once at any point in time does anything surrounding "dead center" and its meaning point to 100% accuracy. I don't understand how any of you came to that conclusion, as no matter how much research I've done on the word I can't find any reason that would make you guys think that. Its almost as if you guys just completely made it up in order to argue...

I'm pretty sure there is a word for a type of person who is incapable of admitting they are wrong...

Think about it like a bullseye. You do not need to be 100% accurate to hit the bullseye; to hit the dead center, to get the maximum amount of points. Shame, you guys would actually be right... if OP didn't use "dead center" but he did. This is why proof reading is really important.

Its kind of hilarious how you were all so upset and taken back by me being right you reported me. I feel really embarrassed for you. I can't imagine getting upset at all, let alone that upset over someone correcting me. Its just words on the internet. Notice how I didn't go out of my way to reply to any of you? Its because I don't care lol. I honestly can't wrap my head around why you all care so much. Chill out, you'll live much happier lives that way I promise. What some random said on the internet is not something worth getting so upset over.

Unfortunately, as the video shows, at close range the EoR hits dead center with a 20% success rate when hip fired.

If the target were marked with rings and a bullseye, it would have hit the bullseye, mark, money, button, and point just once in five tries.

20% is not exactly correct nor absolutely right. It is mostly incorrect and mostly wrong.
20% is neither accurate nor precise.
20% is far from definite or direct.
20% is certainly not exact.
It is not "very accurate" but in fact very inaccurate. It is not unerring but in fact mostly erring.

All of these conditions are actually made worse the further you move away from your target.

And, unfortunately, when you fire more than once, which you must do for this question, you do need to hit the bullseye each time in order for the question

Is the EoR always a dead center shot when hipfired?

with a Yes.

Nope the video shows it hitting dead center 100% of the time actually.

20% Accuracy is actually extremely good.

As an ex pro gamer with tons of experience in all kinds of first person shooters, most pros average right around 20%.

See what you are doing again is arguing semantics.

And as an ex pro with a lot of experience, Sea of Thieves has by far the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire I've ever come across. The EoR out of all the weapons has the most "accurate" "dead center" "precise" "exact" hip fire out of all the weapons in the game so far.

Its funny how many of you use double think, and make no attempt to actually look at the situation as a whole. You have no proof, you don't use the definition of the word, and you don't even make any attempt to consider context (what OP meant).

Weird, OP didn't reply correcting himself saying he actually meant 100% accuracy when hipfiring. Otherwise he would've said it. And then theres the whole thing that it literally makes no logical sense what so ever that he would even want to know if it was "100%" accurate when hip firing.

How is it possible that not one of you has considered that he just wanted to know if there was anything fishy going on with people consistently hitting him with the hip fire from the EoR. Why is that?

Can anyone of you explain how it makes any sense that OP would be asking if it was 100% accurate when being hipfired when he didn't mention that anywhere? In his initial post, or any of the replies. lol

Everything you've said in this post is irrelevant, because you are now changing the argument. The video shows the EoR hitting the dead center of the screen 100% of the time.

Sadly, always does in fact mean 100% of the time, and it is proven false by the very first shot, which does not hit dead center.

Unless your definition of dead center means the entire field of view, since always would also mean at any distance, and the spread increases with greater distance. Which would also mean the blunderbuss always hits dead center too.

"Sadly, always does in fact mean 100% of the time"

Yep. So if it always hits dead center 100% of the time, then it hits dead center always.

"and it is proven false by the very first shot, which does not hit dead center."
Its proven true by the very first shot, which does indeed hit dead center.

"Unless your definition of dead center means the entire field of view, since always would also mean at any distance, and the spread increases with greater distance. Which would also mean the blunderbuss always hits dead center too."

What do you mean? My definition of dead center? lol

Its weird how you don't see what you just said applies better to you than it does to me; you're the one(s) who is(are) changing the definition of the word. This is the point I've been making the entire time. Dead center, nor any of the words related to it, specify. Meaning that is up to interpretation, where the most logical conclusion based on context is probably the best to go with. That said, it so also up to interpretation is arguing about something like that would be arguing semantics...

Meaning dead center in the context of a video game, could only logically mean the dead center of your screen. This is kind of hilarious really. So then, can you and everyone else feel free to explain what "your" definitions of dead center mean? Because I'm just using the one I found on the internet. All the explanations you use don't seem to line up with anything I'm finding online...

I'm really curious what your definition of dead center means...

I would start with the red dot in the video at the very center of the screen, which the first shot fails to hit.

Yea I wouldn't have replied to a post dismantling everything I said either.

@callmebackdraft said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas Jesus no i am sure you are just trolling oh my f-ing god man.

Multiple videos showing that a none moving EoR doesnt hit the dead center of a target that is RIGHT in front of it and still you keep saying it does hit dead center every single time... it plain and simple doesn’t

Dead center would mean by definition (so as a fact!!!) it would hit the same exact center spot without failure, without so much as a pixel of difference between the marks, it clearly does you can see multiple hit marks on the wood. This means it does not hit dead center clear and simple.

Then to the fact of being 100% accurate fired from the hip, it clearly shows its not as again the hit marks are not on the same exact spot every single time.

Now we have brought our proof in facts that it doesn’t hit dead center definition

And our proof also shows it isnt 100% accurate.

If you still want to keep this discussion going and show us you are in fact not trolling then give us your definition of dead center and video proof that the EoR handles itself accordingly.

Else get educated on the difference between facts and oppinion, we are giving you facts you in return give us your oppinion.

"a target"

Saying it doesn't hit dead center because it doesn't hit "a target" when the definition doesn't reference anything about "dead center" having to do with hitting targets, doesn't make any sense.

You saying it doesn't hit dead center, and then using some explanation that has absolutely nothing to do with what "dead center" means doesn't make any sense.

"Dead center would mean by definition (so as a fact!!!) it would hit the same exact center spot without failure, without so much as a pixel of difference between the marks, it clearly does you can see multiple hit marks on the wood. This means it does not hit dead center clear and simple."

You've just proven me right and yourself wrong; I provided the definition to "dead center" already. The definition doesn't reference any of what you just said, meaning you are wrong, and that is not what "dead center" means. To make it clear one more time; you are wrong and you do not know what "dead center" means objectively speaking.

"Then to the fact of being 100% accurate fired from the hip, it clearly shows its not as again the hit marks are not on the same exact spot every single time."

What does that have to do with it being "dead center"?

"Now we have brought our proof in facts that it doesn’t hit"

... we? I'm the only one who provided the definition. The definition is proof you are all wrong...

"And our proof also shows it isnt 100% accurate."

You just provided another example that you don't know what "dead center" means as it doesn't reference 100% accuracy in the definition.

"If you still want to keep this discussion going and show us you are in fact not trolling then give us your definition of dead center and video proof that the EoR handles itself accordingly."

I cringed. The sense of entitlement and lack of self-awareness in this thread is astounding. "your definition" there is no such thing. I'm using the real world definition. You kids provided a video that proved me right.

"Else get educated on the difference between facts and oppinion, we are giving you facts you in return give us your oppinion."

This is another example of projection. You provided several examples of you having zero understanding of what "dead center" means.

@callmebackdraft said in Question about Eye of Reach:

@condorcalabasas Again no proof only your oppinions.

But here we go, the definition exactly dead center of something, in video games we could usually look at the center of the screen or a crosshair.

Seeing as the game doesnt have a crosshair we would refer to the center of the screen.

And if we stand still as to have no movement in either axis and shoot from the hip we see a difference in where the bullets hit, this means that not all bullets hit in the exact center (aka dead center)

Thats why i ask for “your” definition because even though i have given the world definition twice you said nobody else gave the definition even once and only you did.

The only one that is bein entitled to this point is you, seeing as most users in this thread are refuting you and given evidence to contradict what you are saying all you keep saying is basicly “no” only with some more flair behind it.

I simply ask you one thing, if you look at the video footage with the dot in the dead center and see that not all ( i believe even none ) of the bullets hit that point directly (dead center of the bullet in the dead center of the spot), Can you clarify to all of us why that shows that it proves that the eye of reach actually hits dead center ?

"Again no proof only your oppinions."

Definition is proof.

"But here we go, the definition exactly dead center of something, in video games we could usually look at the center of the screen or a crosshair."

/facepalm making me right.

"Seeing as the game doesnt have a crosshair we would refer to the center of the screen."

Making me right.

"And if we stand still as to have no movement in either axis and shoot from the hip we see a difference in where the bullets hit, this means that not all bullets hit in the exact center (aka dead center)"

Yes, all of them do.

"Thats why i ask for “your” definition because even though i have given the world definition twice you said nobody else gave the definition even once and only you did."

The reason why you ask for my definition is because you are using double thinking to come up with a definition out of thin air. You didn't give the world definition, why are you lying? You referenced several things that had nothing to do with "dead center" and are ignoring me after I pointed it out.

"The only one that is bein entitled to this point is you, seeing as most users in this thread are refuting you and given evidence to contradict what you are saying all you keep saying is basicly “no” only with some more flair behind it."

Projection.

"I simply ask you one thing, if you look at the video footage with the dot in the dead center and see that not all ( i believe even none ) of the bullets hit that point directly (dead center of the bullet in the dead center of the spot), Can you clarify to all of us why that shows that it proves that the eye of reach actually hits dead center ?"

Because the dot in the video is arbitrary, the dot is kind of perfect because it is the part of the definition of "dead center" that is a variable, and up for interpretation. Dead center could be a cone taking up 30% of the screen, dead center could be a cone taking up 10% of the screen. Dead center cannot objectively speaking reference 100% accuracy, by definition.

The video is proof the eye of reach isn't 100% accurate when hip firing, that is the only thing it proves.

Based on context, we can come to the conclusion that in comparison to other video games, the EoR in SoT has pretty extreme hip fire accuracy. This is why context matters, and why bringing up how it isn't 100% accurate when hip firing is completely irrelevant. OP wasn't asking that, nor would it have made sense for him to be asking that.