How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”

  • @porkin5 said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Nah I'm not moaning because I don't particularly care how you feel. I'm simply telling you to grow up, get a grip and stop s*** posting.

    Right back atcha. Get a grip, deal with the fact that some people will be unhappy. In fact, you COULD create a post debating the merits of Rare’s communication but you’d rather troll.

  • @ironuzuka said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Porkin5 is right. You should stop s*** posting.

    And that is one opinion...

  • @ironuzuka said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Porkin5 is right. You should stop s*** posting.

  • @ollieoxenfree I like that you took special attention to delete your previous post to write me a shiny new one.

    Nobody's trolling you. My message has been pretty clear from the start to be honest.

    Stop moaning and look at the bigger picture.

  • They should at least send their message on all major platform
    Facebook+Twitter+Discord+Official forum+Official Website.
    It should take some minutes for 1 employee....not too much to ask.

  • Posting on discord is not keeping us updated firstly and if you are going to brag about how open you are with the community then open up to us don't lie to us saying how open you are with your plans and then not give us any information other than things are happening that's very bland and seems to me like we where being distracted but the distraction has worn of time to talk

  • @porkin5 just wanted to quote you for context. And implying people are childish for not holding your convictions and repeating that notion AGAIN and AGAIN is the very definition of trolling.

  • @porkin5 said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @aa-yeti I can read perfectly well, thank you. Hence my response that you've so quickly quoted.

    Do you have anything meaningful to add to this discussion?

    If you read what the post was about I wouldn't even have to spend time trying to help you understand that this has nothing to do with self entitlement. We are telling them that we care more about communication then new content.

  • @ollieoxenfree Not particularly. You keep responding so we're clearly having a conversation... That's what people do.

  • @porkin5 Doesn’t feel like a conversation. Feels like you’re just saying “be quiet and be patient.”

    Those are demands.

  • @gloog some people defend like they work in rare............i drop the game a few days ago cause i got bored, some people still enjoy sailing even doing all the same things again, each person is different, but i know a pretty big community that is dropping one by one till they add more content, problem delaying so much, well, some persons can move on to another game, and just not come back at all till a few months ahead, and that can get the numbers go down, we already noticed last week that playerbase goes down a lot, you cant see many galleons anymore, the last week played all days, and encounter 4 or 5 galleons tops (europe servers)

  • @ollieoxenfree You can't change anyone's opinion. They have all this pent up energy waiting for new content that they just need to argue with someone, even if your trying to bring to light that better communication would make for smoother sailing.

    Godspeed on your quest!

  • @ollieoxenfree The message is being drummed home then? Good. That means it's working.

  • @aa-yeti Yeah, the sad thing is I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind. That rhetorical question of a title was meant more for the devs since they are repeatedly using the term “surprise and delight.”

  • @porkin5 No. it means I can read. I’m really saying your message is lost on me. If you want to boss around a room full of people get a part time job at your local Kinder-Care.

  • @noruas Plenty of games companies use social media, but yea you are correct they should also probably post it on the forums. People tend to use social media more than gaming forums though... they make good use of youtube to speak to their players about their views and the direction the game is headed though...

    Perhaps they could improve a bit but to say they are terrible is a joke. I've known plenty of games where devs don't communicate at all and are far worse...

  • @blackbeard-lufy Wait what? They actually stated that fishing probably wouldn't come as it isn't piratey?

  • @ollieoxenfree
    "Yeah, the sad thing is I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind."
    Why say anything on a forum then ? You can just have your opinion and keep it secret, keep it safe.

    "That rhetorical question of a title was meant more for the devs since they are repeatedly using the term “surprise and delight.”
    Took you 3 pages of comments to assess the issue that your title seems to provoke.

    @Blackbeard-Lufy I'll be the pot! :p

  • @angrycoconut16 It was a Q&A thing, and I think he was trying to be funny. Let me try and find it.

  • @ollieoxenfree Your gonna have to fight through the entitled masses seeping with white knight syndrome.

    Maybe if this post gets enough attention they will admit that they could be doing better. Take a page of the MWO play book. They had a ravenous, toxic, fanboy player base and they managed to stay out of most of the s**t storm by communicating early. They even had a player group that would make announcements and videos similar to what the deckhands do here but more involved.

  • @blackbeard-lufy They said in the Q&A that some people are all up for fishing but some people are against. And since the boss is not convinced about "fishing" altogether, they are still exploring it.
    Argument was that pirates did not fish or that we never see pirates fishing ...
    So they dodged the question and kept "fishing" in limbo.

  • @ironuzuka said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree
    Why say anything on a forum then ? You can just have your opinion and keep it secret, keep it safe.

    Because forums are where you go to voice and discuss your opinions. Keep it safe? Wut?

  • @straw-hat-blake said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @gloog they’ve very clearly outlined their future plans and content. From what I hear is people are just impatient. Give Rare the benefit of the doubt. What is a week or 2 waiting going to ruin the game?

    Are you kidding me right now ? How you even played this game ? NOTHING THAT WAS PROMISED is in the game and I mean nothing. I can write a whole book on the topic. No more benefit of doubt my friend. Like the saying goes fool me once fool me twice. Also about the weekly patches most of the things they "say" they fixed are not fixed at all they are just throwing dust in our eyes its BS and it will stop one way or another. Either by the game shutting down or a population of 10 people still playing it in a year or so. I am pirate legend many other ppl are legends two and more and more are popping up every day. Let me tell you this I have 0 motivation to play this "c**p" after I reached legend I just join random crews give them a mission change their ship colors and leave I don't even wanna do legend missions.

    I give exactly 0 F's if you dont like my post or if you decide to defend them. Every single lawyer in the world will tell you this case cannot be won. Ship has sailed. All the clues are there whoever is making this game has no clue who to make a game especially MMO. Its either a new team that just graduated university or poor management either way it sucks.

  • Temper your expectations and understand the only control you have is over yourself.

  • @blackbeard-lufy Thank you so much! Was gunna ask but thought it would be too much trouble haha. I'd appreciate it though if you could. Feel free to PM me it too.

  • @aa-yeti said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Your gonna have to fight through the entitled masses seeping with white knight syndrome.

    Maybe if this post gets enough attention they will admit that they could be doing better. Take a page of the MWO play book. They had a ravenous, toxic, fanboy player base and they managed to stay out of most of the s**t storm by communicating early. They even had a player group that would make announcements and videos similar to what the deckhands do here but more involved.

    I don’t think anyone asking for anything here is “entitled,” but yes, there are a lot of pious players here that don’t want anyone speaking against their beloved developer.

    I love this game. I have recruited many a player to SoT. I want the level of communication that Rare has touted in all their podcasts, and that is not happening. I bring that to light and you get called a whiner, etc.

    People preaching patience when they have no patience for feedback is just straight up hypocrisy.

  • @ollieoxenfree Temper your expectations and you won't be disappointed.

  • @stellarsacia said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Temper your expectations and you won't be disappointed.

    Best way to temper expectations is with clear and timely communication. I’m simply holding the devs to what they said they would do, and they have yet to do it.

  • @stellarsacia said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    Temper your expectations and understand the only control you have is over yourself.

    You are totally wrong there are countless examples how the community of a certain game for example Mass Effect and EA other BS products forced them to make major changes in the game so we can if we want to force them to change their BS policy.

  • @ollieoxenfree Faux outrage at its finest.

  • @angrycoconut16 Having trouble finding it, but it was the Q&A mixer stream that they gave they ebony flintlock away in. The first one that is.

  • @stellarsacia said in How exactly, are we being “Surprised and Delighted?”:

    @ollieoxenfree Faux outrage at its finest.

    How is it faux? How do you know my level of frustration?

  • @ollieoxenfree I meant more that your gonna have to compete with the vocal minority that are completely outraged by the lack of content.

  • @slam-sumn3r After the content update, check the latest dev video.

  • is there any one from sea of thieves here replying or are we ignored on forums? just asking

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