Saw your new roadmap...

  • McDoll
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    @ca2or said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @trenix90 said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @ler said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    Rare drop working on the new content, we need a down vote option for threads like these! ;)

    You mean the new content that was already in-game and left out for future content?

    You act like they are charging for this content, but they aren't. As an IT guy myself, I understand and appreciate the desire to fix bugs before releasing content.

    Show them what's up bro. Develop your own game and show them how it's done. [mod edited]

    [mod edited] you talking about?
    Mate they charged $80 usd for that stuff.
    They cut a bunch of cosmetics for both players and ships out of the alpha/beta and it Still isn't in the damn game, despite being used in their damn advertising and Twitter posts.

    And saying that someone needs to make a game in order to critique it is the most asinine non+defence there is you [mod edited].

    So what? Can't complain that the car you just bought has headgasket problems until you make your own damn car you [mod edited]? That it?

    [mod edited]

  • ItsPorkchopFu
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    Although the ‘roadmap’ is not as detailed as I would have liked, I’m glad they shared some high-level plans. In addition, I’m disappointed about the delay of ship captaincy, but hope that more important changes, such as playstyle variety through additional weapons, ship kits/sidegrade upgrades, and quest types, are implemented first.

    We need to stay diligent as a community to hold them to their promises, provide constructive criticism for their development processes, and not overhype vague claims. I look forward to what Rare has in store for this platform and hope they can shape it into the game it should have been at launch.

    Until then, may the wind be forever at your backs.

  • Cyphronite
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    What did I just not read

  • Koulik0v
    Marauder

    "You agree with me, good, if you don't, watch me not care."

    Great, thanks for clarifying you're not interested in what anyone on either side of the discussion thinks. That said, why are you still here if you're not interested in someone else's opinion? You've stated your opinion. //wave

  • CA2OR
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    @mcdoll said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @ca2or said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @trenix90 said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @ler said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    Rare drop working on the new content, we need a down vote option for threads like these! ;)

    You mean the new content that was already in-game and left out for future content?

    You act like they are charging for this content, but they aren't. As an IT guy myself, I understand and appreciate the desire to fix bugs before releasing content.

    Show them what's up bro. Develop your own game and show them how it's done. [mod edited]

    [mod edited] you talking about?
    Mate they charged $80 used for that stuff.
    They cut a bunch of cosmetics for both players and ships out of the alpha/beta and it Still isn't in the damn game, despite being used in their damn advertising and Twitter posts.

    And saying that someone needs to make a game in order to critique it is the most asinine non+defence there is you [mod edited].

    So what? Can't complain that the car you just bought has headgasket problems until you make your own damn car you [mod edited]? That it?

    [mod edited].

    If it's a used car they are "as is" meaning you are stuck with it. You can complain all you want, but it is what it is. NOBODY forced you to buy this, and it states pretty clearly when you are buying a digital game that there are NO REFUNDS and NO RETURNS. But that is all hidden in plain English so I can understand how it is over looked. If you bought a physical copy than you have courses of action. You can run down to GameStop (EB games if you are in Canada) and sell it. This might make sense because you will get some money back. You are comparing a couple thousand dollar car vs a $60 game....kinda hard to compare a basketball to a golf ball don't you think?

    I didn't pay no $80 for this game, that would be downright foolish. But for $60 I feel pretty good about this.

    The point about developing your own game is to put this into perspective. Truth be told, unless you have a team, there is no way you will have anything of any quality in that amount of time. But for someone with no comprehension on what it takes to make a game like this, then have it gain a following much larger than expected, and then support it after release....to complain and act like they are owed something is indeed asinine.

    Oh...forum rules say you can't resort to name calling. Yet another thing hidden in plain sight and easily overlooked.

    It's clear you don't understand development and that's ok. I barely do. But I do know that there is a lot to this. Takes a lot of time to develop this stuff. If they withheld something I can assure you it was for a reason and that reason is NOT so they can release it later as "bonus content". If I am proven wrong, so be it. But I would find that unlikely.

    So critique away, just know it holds little value.

  • Nytbane
    Ship Mate
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    I found the roadmap informative, and I am very appreciative of it. Looking forward to the content in May. Thank you Rare... OP not so much.

  • jonavuka
    Marauder

    What's next you want to see the programmers and artists while they work on the game? It's like asking for a whole movie in a trailer... Come on man make some sense dude

  • StellarSacia
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    @trenix90 just further emphasizes that no matter how much content is provided, there is no pleasing the haters like you.

    Move on. You won't be missed.

  • Vin The Rat
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    I'm a pirate! :D

  • CmdrLlama
    Founder

    A bit hyperbolic, even for me.

    Sorry you paid $60 for this. Try asking for a refund with Microsoft Chat support.

    The roadmap has more nodes on it than I imagined, but I agree it didn't go far in alleviating my concerns. They talked pretty big pre-release and the launch build is hilariously under-featured. Now they talked big again. Welp... Proof will be in the pudding, and we were told (and told vaguely), not shown.

  • LadySzechuan

    @trenix90 what you said was not criticism. You are trashing the company because they wanted to keep some suspense (I would rather have a guess bad see what is to come instead of knowing it all before I get a chance to try/see for myself) in what will be added next month. This company has been WAY more open than any other gaming company. And with the price tag, I would rather pay for a game once with all additions included then have to pay more for those additions. If you were actually paying attention to the whole video they are planning on having 3 additions to the game just this summer! That doesn't include what they have planned for the fall/winter plans. If this was a $20 game that means we would be paying $10-$15 per dlc, from my count there was 6 in the road map, so that would be $60-$90 extra for dlcs, so in total for first year pay it would be $80-$110 for a year's worth of add ons, instead of just $60.
    Also this game is a sandbox game, and unless you didn't know a sandbox game starts out small and grows into something glorious, but this time the community actually get to give them ideas.
    BTW criticism is when you tell them, not only constructively but professionally as well, what your opinion is, not making comparisons to drug addicts.
    Another note you are terribly wrong about the player base, just because YOU don't know anyone that plays doesn't mean people are dropping like flies off ther servers, i know plenty of people that play with me, also plenty moe that are still playing that i dont know.

  • BlackMage117
    Founder

    Rare does need to be a bit more precise about what is to come. They did not make a very good first impression at launch. Pirate legend was also a bit disappointing considering its just a bunch of quest from the three factions.

    Yes they did say they were adding stuff and events but they were very vague about it. With what they currently have it does not exactly fill me with confidence that it will be much. Hopefully as the time draws closer to the events they give more details and information.

    Until then, SoT will sit on the back burner for me and most of my friends.

  • MasterkillerX
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    @trenix90 The goal is more content. What they are doing now is literally listening to feedback and complaints and acting on it as much as they can. The fact that they are even giving us updates every week that ACTUALLY change things shows they care.

  • BrutalPandaX
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    @trenix90 it's not worth it dude. These people here are like as thick as playstation fanboys. Its hard to believe because majority of them are grown men. What's worse than what Rare is doing are the trolls going in the section of the forum that is for complaints/suggestions and calling everybody whiners. Its pathetic and will damage the game. There is rarely or never a person here who wants to change somebody else's mind or brings up good opposing points and without being condescending. Don't waste your energy or time.

  • Joe Krakatoa
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    This is why I don't miss Steam.
    Post like this are in every forum there.

    So refreshing to see Rare working on their dream game, [mod edited].

  • UnkeptBean6214
    Rogue

    @crazycruze I agree, saying there isn't enough content and that the fan base is dying off quickly is not constructive. I'm sure Rare is WELL AWARE. Saying what content is desired and why the player base is jumping ship so they can fix these issues is constructive

  • TONE TZU
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    @crazycruze how can you tell tone by reading text. I'm not saying I agree with everything he posted although he has a point in some places. but you can tell someone's tone by a text post. I like this game and I think the road map thing is good-ish but I had some concerns with all the secretive stuff... I mean when is the weekly stuff even starting? they didn't really give us much more then hype again...

  • CrazyCruze

    @tone-tzu said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @crazycruze how can you tell tone by reading text. I'm not saying I agree with everything he posted although he has a point in some places. but you can tell someone's tone by a text post. I like this game and I think the road map thing is good-ish but I had some concerns with all the secretive stuff... I mean when is the weekly stuff even starting? they didn't really give us much more then hype again...

    Writing tone is a real thing and literary technique:
    "The definition of “tone” is the way the author expresses his attitude through his writing. The tone can change very quickly, or may remain the same throughout the story. Tone is expressed by your use of syntax, your point of view, your diction, and the level of formality in your writing."

    The way he's phrasing his message and point of view can't be interpreted as supportive critiques. They're more attacks if anything.

  • TONE TZU
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    @crazycruze I can concede that?

  • Bart Blaggard
    Marauder

    Personally I'm pleasantly surprised. Sure there are some overall vagueness, but I'm happy to see new AI enemies, mechanics, a new ship and (rewarding) exploration before summer's end. Was expecting atleast a mention of pets though.

  • CardShark 360
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    Hi everyone, friendly reminder to read the Sea of Thieves Official Forum Rules.

    @Trenix90 @Balbasuar @CA2OR @McDoll @Barnabas-Seadog please do this before making your next post as our team has had to edit your posts for breaking these rules.

  • CA2OR
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    @cardshark-360 said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    Hi everyone, friendly reminder to read the Sea of Thieves Official Forum Rules.

    @Trenix90 @Balbasuar @CA2OR @McDoll @Barnabas-Seadog please do this before making your next post as our team has had to edit your posts for breaking these rules.

    Can I get a PM or chat going with a mod. I am apparently confused on what I am doing wrong.

  • Trenix90
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    In case Rare or some fans didn't notice, all I ask is for you to TELL US exactly what you're giving us. I think it's completely fair since we paid for your service. You want to work with the community, it's probably a good idea to first tell us what you're doing, before we get something we never wanted. Don't forget, we didn't want 4-man sloops and we didn't want to be charged upon deaths.

  • Admiral Tweedle
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    Outlined the roadmap here too.

  • Frostycrypton
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    @Trenix90 Which parts do you find secretive (this is a legitimate question, and not me being a smart aleck)? I'm guessing you mean specifics like "the new ship type will have . . ." rather than a general "new ship type is coming"?

  • Buckshot Matt

    I was actually kind of meh about SoT, but with this roadmap, I'm really excited to see what they add. It sounds like the game is going to be evolving, and the launch was just a starting point. I'm looking forward to the future of SoT. Looks awesome what they have planned. :) Remember, everyone might not enjoy SoT, but there are other games that are coming out, like Skull & Bones. Maybe look into those if you don't like what you see here?

  • Trenix90
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    @admiral-tweedle said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    Outlined the roadmap here too.

    I mean it's nice you're doing Rare's job, but it still provides nothing. New item? What is the item? New AI threat? What does that even mean? Events, what events? All of this means nothing. This is NOT a roadmap as much as you want to convince yourself to believe it is. This is the garbage that Rare was keeping from us for weeks? Ridiculous. Mind as well say "New content is coming", well I sure hope so. I mean they're suffocating what's left of their game. Hope you're all happy.

  • AK HarLeyHaVok
    Castaway

    Jesus, same ludicrous copy paste from Reddit to here. You really like having people lash at you for being a buffoon, eh?

    Rare did EXACTLY what was requested. They gave us a roadmap to show that they ARE INDEED giving us future content.

    What, were you expecting them to COMPLETELY REVEAL every tidbit of what they have planned? Get the hell out of here with that idiotic lunacy, you spoiled brat!
    They'd ruin the surprise if they told us EXACTLY what was in store for us in The Hungering Deep update and beyond.

    NO ONE IS GOING TO MISS YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE, SO LONG.

  • Admiral Tweedle
    Founder

    @trenix90 We are happy. Glad you're still here too.

  • Demolition 100

    @dairadh you can't Possibly think that the words "disgusting business model" are a civil way to address a company you disagree with.

  • GPMrks
    Master

    I love this game, really do, but something no one can't deny is that it sows seeds of hatred, in game and out of it.

  • Adamas5201
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    @cardshark-360 Sorry, also nothing on my post changed?!?!

  • Onyx Wartooth
    Insider

    @dairadh hes one of those people that, ya know says negative things just to cause problems, and thats all he does on these forums. look at any of his other topics. youll get the image.

  • rockinpodunk
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    @trenix90 said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    @im-axis-rahl said in Saw your new roadmap...:

    This guy has been complaining since before the game launched.

    And was proved right when the game launched. I was the one saying the whole time that very little content was being held back upon release. Go look me up. The game lost so many players already, surprised none of you care. You think the game will survive when the playerbase tanked? A good amount of players tried the game and said they would never purchase this game because of the lack of content and the money it asked for. No logic.

    How many players left? Exactly how many? You don't have enough have access to those numbers, so we know you're completely making it up. Sure, a few whiners left because the game wasn't exactly what they wanted it to be, but in my experience the vast majority of players are still happy with the game and I'd bet there are more people playing now than 3 weeks ago at launch, and this roadmap was great. No game gives away specific details in a roadmap. That would spoil the surprise of it. You are just the kind of person who can't be satisfied without being spoon fed information. Do everyone a favor and just go play a different game.

  • Shartwork
    Marauder
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    The roadmap was an exploit!
    -Trenix 2018

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