Is incredible to me that people that they didnt buy the game, only tried it with the free trial game pass or saw gameplays on YouTube, are complaining about everything and ask Rare for changes. Not even proposing something, only complaining. Amazing...
If you don't like the Game, is fine, just leave, and leave us, the people which we have put money into this, so we can have constructive talks about what can be improve.
Thank you
Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?
@wildeyedjokr maybe... But trust me that most of them they are just coming because someone killed him in the trial and that's not fair... They always have to win...
And anyway, as potential buyers, instead of "this is op","please make me invulnerable to others","this Game is sinking" if they are really interested in buying it, they would rather help with constructive and reasonable proposals.@capitan-drew
I own the game, still I feel it’s da,end unpolished, they constantly disconnect and blame the players ,when you see this happening enough on mixer without the user being disconnected, something is wrong with the game.potential buyers often stay exactly that, potential. If you only play the game when it looks exactly like you want it you are not a player, you are a dictator. Like if these kids would stick with the game once it is the atrocity they created with their not thought through ideas of pve-only servers and xbox pc segregated servers. with nerfed and useless blunderbusses, with floating turtle islands in the air, with the ability to fly and teleport everywhere on the map, with instant gratification and pirate legend title right after login in the first time. yeah that will work out. sure, give em what they want.
If you wanna see how games will look when not developed by a proper team, just look at any modding database and install all mods for a game. I am certain we are all glad the ships do not look like thomas the tank engine. If you dont know what i am talking about, check for skyrim and thomas the tank engine, you'll see.
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
potential buyers often stay exactly that, potential. If you only play the game when it looks exactly like you want it you are not a player, you are a dictator. Like if these kids would stick with the game once it is the atrocity they created with their not thought through ideas of pve-only servers and xbox pc segregated servers. with nerfed and useless blunderbusses, with floating turtle islands in the air, with the ability to fly and teleport everywhere on the map, with instant gratification and pirate legend title right after login in the first time. yeah that will work out. sure, give em what they want.
If you wanna see how games will look when not developed by a proper team, just look at any modding database and install all mods for a game. I am certain we are all glad the ships do not look like thomas the tank engine. If you dont know what i am talking about, check for skyrim and thomas the tank engine, you'll see.
So basically you're writing people off as being "Trial users" based off of the threads they make, when the post above you is by someone who actually owns the game and posts the same post as you're trying to discredit as "Non-Owners"?
I'm a potential buyer, I enjoyed the two weeks but not enough to renew it. I offered suggestions and spent quite a large portion of time here over the last few days trying to see what type of direction they take it before dropping any money on it.
Edit: You should realize that the people who are writing truly angry threads - Are those who feel like they were cheated out of $60. Not those who tried it for two weeks and want it to be a game worth that $60.
@wildeyedjokr sagte in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
So basically you're writing people off as being "Trial users" based off of the threads they make, when the post above you is by someone who actually owns the game and posts the same post as you're trying to discredit as "Non-Owners"?
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
potential buyers often stay exactly that, potential.
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
@wildeyedjokr sagte in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
So basically you're writing people off as being "Trial users" based off of the threads they make, when the post above you is by someone who actually owns the game and posts the same post as you're trying to discredit as "Non-Owners"?
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
potential buyers often stay exactly that, potential.
So basically you'd rather me buy the game and complain about how ripped off I feel, than to try to suggest some things that would actually push me towards making that purchase happily..
Edit: Because honestly, those are the options on the table.
I can come here and say, "I would love it if ___ were added, I feel it would really tip me towards buying". Or I can go "Why the hell doesn't this game have ___, I JUST SPENT $60!" like most major reviewers are doing.
geez, you really try hard to missunderstand me, do you?!
I have nothing against thought through and researched suggestions.Note: With researched I mean, check if this has been suggested before. We dont need another safe-zone thread, it wont ever happen, rare has been clear with this.
Note: I never s**t on suggestion threads if I see that there has been made an effort.
Note: These are my principles, i am not a forum mod or anything, just a member of the community.But whats happening alot is that ppl projected some of their own weird ideas about the game into it and then were let down when they bought it. Yeah, rare said the game will start mainly when you reach pirate legend. we know atm that there is not yet much to do after reaching pirate legend, i know all that aswell, do you think they dont know? they made the game, they know!
Note: Now comes a speculation! Beware.
The game is 3 weeks old, the servers have been overrun by mostly the gamepass trial users. Rare did not anticipate and plan for the vast amount of players they actually then had. It revealed alot of problems, they are working on fixing those. I guess this pushes the content release plans further back due to priorities. Ppl are disappointed with the game cause it doesnt have anything new in it since release but ppl are also incredible impatient. If you bought the game and are disappointed, get a refund or just sit it out. Play something else in the meantime or do you have a SoT addiction problem? Then i suggest you see a professional who can help with these sorts of health issues.
Once the issues are all ironed out and content is released and this game gets proper developer support in terms of community interaction other than bugfixing you can hop back on your ship and enjoy the ride for how ever long it may last. this is a business venture, they have a financial interest in getting this game up to speed.
If you think your suggestions now, help the developers fix this game right now, you are mistaken, these things take time to think through, concept them, prototype them, refine them, prototype some more and polish them to actually release them into the game. There are no quick-fixes for the issues at hand. we have to wait them out.
Why do i always have to break it down like I talk to kids? At least pls try to understand me. I hope this clears it up and i am sorry if I didnt make myself clear prior.
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
do you have a SoT addiction problem? Then i suggest you see a professional who can help with these sorts of health issues.And that's the point I stopped reading.
If you want me to care to read what you type, don't be a d**k about it. It's not a matter of "Misunderstanding". It's a matter of you implying that "Potential buyers" will never actually become a "Buyer".. And to be honest, seeing these forums over the last few days - I am losing interest in buying.
You guys are playing an E rated cartoon game, it isn't your job to moderate these forums, yet you complain like those users are costing you .17 cents a post.. I hate to use these words but really - Get over it dude.
Edit: It's the moderators job to merge those "Multiple threads", it's not YOUR job to complain about them.
@coyote4711 Do you know how fast you can prototype in Unreal Engine 4?
Its dumb how fast it is, if they have exposed there API to Blueprints as they should.Game development today is way faster more so with UE4.
@capitan-drew If the game is available for a ten dollar a month fee or $60 no matter which way you get it you own it. Your $60 dollar purchase doesn't make you special neither does a gamepass. Honestly Rare is developing for xbox and xbox values the gamepass as a more lucrative model and by your logic if one is greater than the other guess which one that is?
@cutlass-pain sagte in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
@coyote4711 Do you know how fast you can prototype in Unreal Engine 4?
Its dumb how fast it is, if they have exposed there API to Blueprints as they should.Game development today is way faster more so with UE4.
You want halfbaked ideas released into the game? Maybe i missused the word 'prototyping' which I used in the sense of testing, seeing if it works in the game, what are the implications of said new feature/item/ship type? Does it work in the long run, how does it feel playing with it, was it better without it, and so forth. I am not talking about just putting it in there. Thats rather quickly done, true. I am talking about developing a concept and then test and see how it fares in the ecosystem of the game.
@wildeyedjokr sagte in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
@coyote4711 said in Why the forum is full of whining kids, who they don't even own the Game?:
do you have a SoT addiction problem? Then i suggest you see a professional who can help with these sorts of health issues.And that's the point I stopped reading.
If you want me to care to read what you type, don't be a d**k about it. It's not a matter of "Misunderstanding". It's a matter of you implying that "Potential buyers" will never actually become a "Buyer".. And to be honest, seeing these forums over the last few days - I am losing interest in buying.
You guys are playing an E rated cartoon game, it isn't your job to moderate these forums, yet you complain like those users are costing you .17 cents a post.. I hate to use these words but really - Get over it dude.
Edit: It's the moderators job to merge those "Multiple threads", it's not YOUR job to complain about them.
Ok, this is the last answer i gonna write, cause as said before you try hard to misunderstand.
First I didnt say you have an addiction problem, I am aware that these issues exist and i dont look down on ppl who battle with these sorts of problems hence my advice to see a professional. If you already take offense in me being open about said issues, welp i guess there is no more to say then.
Second, i didnt imply that potential buyers will never become buyers. If I wrote these kind of absolutes, my bad, I dont deal in absolutes. My guess is as good as yours. I just observe and draw from experience.
Third, its called self moderation and is present in all sorts of communities. If self-moderation wont work, it needs moderators. Societies with no self moderation ....ah forget it, this gets way to philosophical.
@coyote4711 Well they do not need to do the concept design except for the art.
If they read forums there is not hard to find well tought thrue concepts\ ideas for the game.
Since the core API should be done its just a matter of creating the game object and upating the derived AGameMode::\ AGameSession:: \ AGameState:: \ APlayerCntroller:: and maybe a ACharacter::.
DoneSolus is made by one guy in about 2 years.
And that game is awesome.
