Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?

@weepaperboats sure, but they have an open mode and a solo mode and it works fine.

@goblobsters said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@dairadh said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@goblobsters said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@d0wnt0wn711 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@goblobsters translation: i need sheep to troll at ports

Incorrect assertion, dont quit your day job as you have no future in translation or linguistic interpretation.

I actually PVE more than I PVP. I just dont want to divide the server pools. I LIKE playing on full servers where I never know what will happen. If servers are divided in to PVP/PVE then the mystery of player interaction is removed and the most exciting gameplay element (player interaction) is cheapened to nothing.

But thanks for calling me a troll because my opinion is different than yours. Stay classy.

Goblobsters, as you just said, "you" want that. "You" feel that as exciting. It's now clear that some other players, abundant enough for this thread to exist, don't feel the same way as you do.

Yep I did. The difference is that RARE made what I want. They advertised it to me. The told me about it, and delivered exactly what the described and advertised to me. I am HAPPY. You want a game that is not this one. I am SAD for you.

Eh... ok ? I mean, that's nice of you to be sad for me, but I'm quite happy with the game right now. I'm just open to others not having the same opinion as me. ^^'

When you say they delivered "exactly" what they described, I disagree with you. Yes, they talked about piracy and encountering people who can be either agressive or friendly, but they also said you could "just explore". What I mean is that the game "can" be PVPVE, and "can" be PVE-only for others. Well at least in theory, since some posters here told me creating PVE-only servers would take a long time.

@subaqueousreach as long as rare keeps up discussion about balancing pve/pvp then this question will always get asked regardless of whether we like it or not

@subaqueousreach

You do realize that Developer's make games for $$$, right?

I've no idea what the #s are on people looking for PvE servers, but if those who want it wouldn't otherwise play the game, why should it matter to those of us playing the game as it is now?

I'll still be in a PvP server. So will my kids.

If Rare can retain players that would otherwise play 'Ship Simulator 2018', how is that bad for the game?

PvE players on PvE servers that keep pumping money into micro-transactions for the betterment of the game for everyone.

Win/win.

@blahsahrow said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@duilliuth I understand that and I honestly believe rares intentions were a more CO Op style game. However two reasons I think the PVP is as ofter as it is now is because 1. people are already bored with current content. 2. game pass offers free 14 day trial so people are just trolling everyone for no reason because they can.

Players are just trolling because it's the beta.
Players are just trolling because of the free game pass trial.
Players are just trolling because...

Or perhaps players are trolling because the game's unrestricted shared world encourages it and Rare underestimated the depths humanity will sink to when given access to any environment without restrictions.

@blahsahrow said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@juicy-xi I forgot to add the reason you see the ( kill on sight type of PVP) that is currently in the game is because people have already became bored and have ran out of stuff to do. That's why I believe once more stuff is add it will drop off.

Again this is all my view of it.

I agree with you. The lack of content is real, and hopefully they add more soon.

@subaqueousreach said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@davejc64

Powerful constructive thought right there.

What would the benefit of having a PvE server even be? Where's the suspense coming from? Where's the danger? The risk? How are any of the fetch quests even remotely rewarding without any possibility of failing or losing anything?

It's not particularly difficult to go to an island and read a map or fight a handful of skeletons. At least not until another group of players shows up and decides they want what you have. At which point you have a real challenge on your hands.

Would you really, honestly be satisfied just doing the same mundane tasks over and over and over and over again for a hat? or a coat?

That's exactly what we are doing now. Grinding for a coat. The quests are shallow and meaningless. The pvp is unsubstantial and generally nothing more then irritating. The game has no substance.

@lord-dyonsus said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

What i don't understand is how some people buy a game, knowing what it is, then decide it's too hard for them and asking for in effect a different game.

The game advertised and the game we ended up with are two different things. We were promised a friendly, social game that was mainly about adventure with your friends. What we got is camping galleons and paranoia every time you see an enemy ship, wondering if they're about to run you down for your loot or not. We can't even cooperate at skull forts because the grind is so hard that you want all of the loot for yourself because how else are you going to make a meaningful amount in a decent amount of time with how borked the voyages are? That's why server hopping became a thing so people could find the forts, because it's so much more profitable than voyages. Even then it barely makes a dent in your rep once you're up there in 25+.

Then there's the question of why continue the grind when, by then, you've probably got the outfit/ship customizations you want. At ranks 30/25/25 I have two full outfits and a hull. The closest unlocks are at rank 33. Over HALFWAY to pirate legend. Yeah I'm having tons of fun with my friends, but it's starting to get boring without anything else to do. Maybe a nice card game or dice game to play while we're out on the open water instead of just music? We didn't pay $60 for our imaginations.

People are asking for PvE because they want to experience things like cooperation on forts, friendly players and making friends. They want to gang up to battle NPC merchant ships or attack the mighty kraken together. Huge boss fights with everyone working together AS RARE ENVISIONED rather than everyone being at each other's throats. They don't want PvE with the game as it is. They just don't want people coming into the game and trolling them constantly, approaching your boat and calling you rude things unprovoked over mic while killing you. There are currently no limits to PvP--anyone can attack you whenever. Without any changes in sight, of course people are going to ask for PvE so they can play the game in a calm and relaxed manner without having to worry about losing hours of work.

Right now the only interesting thing to do in the game is PvP because it's something different than the repetitive grinding of PvE. But the thing is, there's no point to PvP without PvE and when people get bored of PvE as we are, then it turns into all PvP and that's when people start hunting you down and ruining it for those still enjoying the PvE.

I feel like a lot of issues would be solved if Rare just talked to us, gave us a roadmap or at least let us know that we're being heard and that they're taking some of our suggestions into consideration.

@mrloadedpotato most accurate post in this entire thread. The PvP angle makes sense in a game about pirates but only to a point. And to the people saying that people should go play another game, well... they will, and you'll all be left camping outposts and islands waiting for ships that will never come.

@mrloadedpotato I agree with you that there are no repercussions of PVP and that does need to change but as far as the beta. It was true there was absolutely nothing to do in the beta that meant anything so people just fought. The game pass is more directed at hackers because they do exist go to YouTube. People will Troll to Troll because people suck. Something does need to happen, but PVE only server are not the answer which is what this thread is about.

What would you suggest they do to fix the excessive PVP?

@lord-dyonsus
I'm not asking for a PvE server. I'm just stating what I'm seeing from stalking the forums. The devs really need to talk to us about what they're planning on doing because right now, everyone is just going to ask for a refund. The price is way too high for what we have now, and sure it's a promise for new content but where's the roadmap to prove that we'll actually get that?

@lord-dyonsus well friendly pirates are what the game was advertized for. So I dont think its ME thats broken. Can you do what I asked you to do? bring more then hyperbole and innuendo, but fact? Show me an advert where Rare called for murdering pirates that just want to hack and kill anyone they can and especially prey on the weak and new? You do that me bucko and then maybe you an be justified till then you have lost the argument.
btw im wondering why you do not answer your own question, why did YOU buy a friendly pirate game, discover its not the cut throat game you want and are not arguing for it too be one? Since I have yet to see ANYTHING that describes it that way pre launch....back up your input I have and can do more....

The only reason many PvP players want to deny PVE players their own server is that it would mean all the easy/soft targets would move over to PvE servers. That would leave only other PvPers to fight, and that scares them as there are no easy targets any more. ;-)

@goblobsters First and foremost, I don't care about loot. Loot has not been mentioned in my cure for toxic players who's sole reason to play is to harass other players. Only those who's goal is to be king $h!t on t**d mountain care about loot.

I am about being able to dodge toxic players when playing with children; ie: collecting chickens and pigs so they can feed them bananas.

Let's check our ego and find middle ground to protect our children from toxicity, while enjoying some of the lighter parts of the game like collecting chickens and goats and feeding them bananas. And if children enjoy too many cups of "sugary soda pop" and throw up in a bucket ... well, cool.

@microphonestand sorry, pigs. Maybe they will include goats in the next patch. -_-

@duilliuth Exactly. This game was marketed to be fun, not murderous and harassing. Sure pirates are known for being odd, but let's tone it down a notch.

Question: Has anybody read the Pirate Code of Conduct in the bar? I am fairly certain there's some simple guidelines to follow. Just saying ...

@lord-dyonsus Change server command. Problem solved. It's a simple, and politically correct fix to bypass toxic players.

it's all over the web. The toxic player base on will turn people away.

@dairadh Change server command. Simple and easy. I've mentioned this before and will continue to advocate for Rare to implement. Trolls will continue to troll, so there needs to be an easy way to avoid trolls.

No. That is all.

I myself don't wish to partake in PvE only servers, but I can understand why people would want them. I've been in several encounters where PvP combat has been relentless, and for some players that can be a game killer. It's a subject that has to been seen through more eyes than just your own. For new players, or players just trying to enjoy casual game-play, coming across a galleon that's hellbent on domination is a huge turn off.

@weepaperboats Maybe you're way better at this game than others. Maybe you got lucky. Maybe your tolerance to stress is higher. Maybe your need for a relaxing play is lower than others. What I mean is that as interesting as your own experience is, it is just that : "your" own experience. And because you're feeling nice in the current setting of the game doesn't mean others do.

Some people want the feeling of danger and threat to be toned-down because not being able to play peacefully in such a beautiful game is unpleasant to them. Having to avoid others all the time isn't "playing how you want to", and being forced to fight against others isn't "just exploring". At least in my opinion, which illustrates how we can have different feelings about the same situation.

And since RARE themselves said "we all want to make sure that Sea of Thieves appeals to as many gamers as possible and everyone enjoys the game regardless of their own personal motivations.", I feel asking for some changes is legitimate.

@Ghost-0f-Dawn You're right, we don't always get what we want, and things don't "have" to change because some people don't like it. But if you want to keep players in a game, you need to give them what gives them joy and fun. Many players currently don't have fun because of a heavy unbalance towards PvP. They will leave the game if things don't change. And then, no more preys for the PvP hunters. Standing your ground like that will only lead to a sad end.

But that you find strange or abnormal that players ask for changes in a game baffles me. Of course people ask for what they want. Nothing to do with participation trophy generation or whatever. Everybody asks for changes when a situation is painful for them, probably since the beginning of mankind (ok I wasn't there so I'm making an educated guess :p).