clearly no match for the sloop counter part
Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff
@splatulated No. They dont need a Buff. I believe everything is perfectly balanced, if you have a Galleon you most likely have a crew of four people to help you out and fight, meanwhile the Sloop only has at Max 2 Players and is way easier to sink.
@splatulated I think a lot of people are "claiming" to be sinking galleons with sloops. How many are actually successful? "Video, or it didn't happen!"
A decent coordinated Galleon crew can decimate a Sloop crew, easily and without much effort.
No need to balance. The game are just perfect, as it is now!
Put some hours into the game with your friends, where you focus on getting coordinated as a crew, and just improve your individual skill overtime in general.
And you will find yourself, being quite unstoppable in a short span of time.
The learning curve may vary for each person, but you get the idea.
I have yet to see a video of any sloop sinking a galleon. Except for one streamer yesterday.
generaldort on twitch sank a galleon solo. The players on this galleon where terrible though, mean really awful at the game. Also it took him a long time chasing this ship and running out of cannonballs and stealing their cannonballs and running out again and ramming their ship and boarding it and making sure it sank by preventing them from repairing it.
I'm not sure it was much of a victory because he had to sacrifice his sloop to accomplish it.
Two people below the deck of a galleon will make it indestructible as far as a sloop is concerned. They can repair holes faster than a sloop can put them in.
im a galleon hunter and i usually go in solo. no i dont have any video but i can assure you its possible in the scale test i have much better luck than the pioneer tests...with that being said its kinda 50/50. i typically have the best luck boarding the enemy ship undetected, then cutting them to pieces as they continue to fire on my ship. however with the 2 weapon system it did make it a bit harder. however the explosive barrels made it a bit easier so, meh.
I soloed in a sloop came across a gally with and swam over with a gunpowder barrel after passing a rock. Boom. I then climbed aboard and killed the repairers :P All without fireing a cannon shot. So really it all comes down to competence of the crew...which was...well a little lacking. But hey we all have our derp moments!
@touchdown1504 said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
@splatulated I think a lot of people are "claiming" to be sinking galleons with sloops. How many are actually successful? "Video, or it didn't happen!"
Last weeks Scale Test...
A lot of galleon crews arent working as co-ordinated teams at the moment, except one I came across earlier while duo slooping and the galleon crew were seriously invincible. Their tactic Im keeping to myself for if ever im in a galleon crew with mates.
Edit: Ive got a video Ive linked twice now sinking a galleon solo, I dont want to keep linking it in every thread or itll just annoy people
I disagree, what you are probably seeing is a finely tuned Sloop crew take out disorganized, poor communication Galleons. Any adept galleon crew should destroy any sloop they see.
They just need to fight the right way, you have at least 1, if not 2 additional people. You can use this to shoot people onto the sloop, hand to hand combat on a Sloop is huge.
Also, 1 person constantly on repairs, 2 on cannons, 1 driving. You have 1 more cannon shooting than the galleon.
Shoot AT the water line. You do nearly no damage if you shoot the deck. The sloop WONT sink unless it is taking on water. How does it take on water if the hole is above water line. Shooting a galleon, it is a bit easier to punch holes in at water line. But too many people forget to shoot at waterline.
You can solo sloop and sink a galleon with 5-6 well placed shots given the crew is incompetent. It isn't that difficult. I ran up against a clearly experienced galleon crew last night and they murdilized me. I managed to land a few long range shots because that's what I was practicing. But for the most part they ignored me when they werent killing me. We had a pretty epic moment where one of them snuck aboard my sloop and killed me just as I rammed the galleon dead in the middle of a massive storm. btw, it's not easy to ram a ship in the middle of a massive storm.
Galleons definitely are a match.
As with sloops successfuly taking down galleons, its all up to the competence of the crew.
If we want the game to stop turning into a "make this game super easy and safe for me" and complaints of griefing by every newcomer jumping into the sloop like its supposed to be the easier "mode" we definitely don't need a buff for galleon.
Leave it as is. The games got a good balance once the learning curve for both vessels has been crossed, making them each devastating in their own way.
Learn the strengths and weaknesses of your current ship/crew and play to them.
@zokraitz said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
@touchdown1504 said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
@splatulated I think a lot of people are "claiming" to be sinking galleons with sloops. How many are actually successful? "Video, or it didn't happen!"
Last weeks Scale Test...
I'm very interested in seeing it but I'm not going to sit though 8 hours of video to find it. Can you tell me where to look?
A galleon which is not moving, facing an island, with its sails down means its anchor is down with most of its crew probably on said island, is a gift for any hostile crew. As it can't turn to defend itself and if they manage to raise the anchor in time, it will only crash full speed where it's facing.
I think it boils down to the crew. A decent Galleon crew will hardly ever lose to a sloop. But from my own experience, it's rather easy to sink a Galleon when the crew has no idea what they're doing.
I tested for quite a few hours and managed to sink a lot of Galleons, but when facing a good crew I had little luck.(I was playing solo)
Me and a friend did today (no video sorry) Took a long time, the galleon eventually ran out of wood planks/cannonballs and tried to land to restock (possibly took damage running aground) and we finished her off. It was a long but most enjoyable fight and certainly not easy, but then again we are pretty nub :)
I've been on both sides of the fight. Sank 2 galleons last night as a solo. 50% of the time I take them down by stay in their blind spot and running them a ground in shallow places as they hunt me down. Also using the islands to my advantage do a pincer attack with skeleton cannons on one side. 25% they run me off as they are a good crew. 25% they sink me because they know what to do. As a galleon been tracked and the sloop stayed in our blind spot were we drifted to one side to open a little side space the turned back with an anchor drop and started blasting. He hit us broad side one guy jumped a board and we still blasted with 2 guys while one fixed the ship. Sloop went down hard. He stayed in our blind spot but with a little communication you can't beat 4 people who know what their doing.
Its all about skill tbh. sloop players who can anchor and work the sails will win everytime but if you get broadside on a sloop they are screwed. Its all about communication and team work. The galleon is hella slow.
Maybe more items for pvp might solve issues. Say grapeshot for slowing ships?
Or some smoke bomb/firebombs?
Grappling hooks for catching ships@splatulated said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
clearly no match for the sloop counter part
Obviously more cannons, just about organisation.
They are very balanced fine. What makes the difference is the crew you sail with and how much experience they have. No sloop sink s my Galleon when I'm sailing with the people I always play with. Its the other way around.
But when I play on a sloop and the Galleon team is not experienced yet, they are easy pickings.
Okay people, sneaking onto a galleon with a powder keg is not “sinking a galleon with a sloop”...
Sloops are not overpowered and galleons don’t need a buff.
Powderkegs might need some reining in, however, like a whole lot of splashing if you try to swim with one. Or maybe, you can’t swim down underwater with a giant barrel in your arms?
@dancylawyer1568 said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
I soloed in a sloop came across a gally with and swam over with a gunpowder barrel after passing a rock. Boom. I then climbed aboard and killed the repairers :P All without fireing a cannon shot. So really it all comes down to competence of the crew...which was...well a little lacking. But hey we all have our derp moments!
Ok, for me this is not "sinking" a galleon. Boarding them, killing them, then scuttling the ship, and by the sound of it loosing your own, is not sinking.
Ship to ship, sunk via cannonballs only, that's sinking.
My opinion of course.
@mad-jack-ketch I have sunk like, 200 galleons, just this weekend. Solo in my sloop, sometimes just swimming, which I like to do instead of using a boat at all. Oh dang, sorry I forgot to video it....LOL
@touchdown1504 said in Everyone Sinking galleons with sloops, I think Galleons need a buff:
@splatulated I think a lot of people are "claiming" to be sinking galleons with sloops. How many are actually successful? "Video, or it didn't happen!"
lol this guy. I do often take pictures of the sinking galleon with my character on my sloop dancing or clapping at them, rarely record though.
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