What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post)

Being good at Navigating the sea's I think is an important skill, knowing the ship and how and when to raise sails, lower the anchor etc, etc.

Commanding you're crew, and working together in any situation, manning the cannons, knowing when and where to strike first I think is also very important. As there's know difference in stats regardless of items, it really goes on skill and teamwork.

I admit I engaged in pvp for the first time during the scale test, so I have no experience with it, but I figured out I'm better off turning ships into swiss cheese with my cannon balls than fighting with my weapons given. Was so satisfying landing almost every shot and seeing the sloop sink. If I feel more confident, I'd love to try being a bit more selfless and just run onto another ship with a gunpower barrel and let them attack me killing me but also damaging the ship lol

the difference between good and bad pvp is the crew.

Solo sloop:

• Avoid combat with bigger crews ('cause it's unbalanced);
• avoid unnecessary combat against same size crew ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

Dual sloop:

• Avoid combat with bigger crews ('cause it's unbalanced);
• avoid unnecessary combat against same size crew ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

3 in a galleon:

• Avoid combat with bigger crews ('cause it's unbalanced);
• avoid unnecessary combat against same size crew ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

4 in a galleon:
If you and you crew are good players do not worry! Just avoid unnecessary combat against same size crew and for the rest adopt a blitzkrieg approach because the same respawn time will make you and your crew a true unstoppable zombie army horde!

EDIT:

LONGER Base respawn wait (BRW) time for bigger crews would balance the PvP:

Me, my friend and our sloop ended up in a server with other 3 galleons (4 crew members). There were a lot of PVP land and oversea's battles and we lost most because the same respawn time gave the other 4 crew members SERIOUS advantages over us.

Sea of Thieves PVP it is unique. The respawn system puts you back in the action giving you chances to win a battle. The respawn system punishes the smaller crews because they have the same BRW as the bigger crews that already have the outnumbered crew size advantage.

Suggested respawn time based on the crew size in the actual game:

1 crew ships: 1 standard BRW.
2 crew ships: 1.5x standard BRW.
3 crew ships: 2x standard BRW.
4 crew ships: 2.5x standard BRW.

PVP situations:

SMALL CREW VS BIGGER CREW: Longer respawn time for bigger crews will give the smaller crew remaining living players more time for strategic actions, and maybe more diplomatic actions for the remaining living bigger crew players. It would be risk for bigger crews ships trying to take over smaller crew players but the rewards would be anything the smaller crew would be carrying or a total wasted time in cases nothing were carryed. Bigger crew's advantages will be the outnumbered smaller crew sizes. The best crew may win even outnumbered.

SAME SIZE CREW VS SAME SIZE CREW: May the best crew win! Equal BRW will make no difference at all!

PVE situations:

Bigger crews: Longer BRW will demand better communication and better strategic actions.

Smaller crews: Longer BRW will demand better communication and better strategic actions.

Solo: The BRW will not be changed so it will make no difference at all!

Games focused on PVP that change the BRW for balance:

League of Legends BRW:

Death Timer
Upon death, every player must wait a given amount of time noted over the champions image. On Summoner's Rift the death timer base can range from 10 to 52.5 seconds and will be rounded when shown when dead.

The time can increase after 15 minutes in a match by (up to a cap of 150% of BRW).

EX.: Level × 2.5 + 7.5 = your Base Respawn Wait time (BRW) before minute 15.

DOTA 2 BRW:

BRW = Level * 4

After the balace:

Solo sloop:

• Avoid unnecessary combat ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

Dual sloop:

• Avoid unnecessary combat ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

3 in a galleon:

• Avoid unnecessary combat ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat and sink the bigger crew's ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

4 in a galleon:

• Avoid unnecessary combat ('cause it's risky);
• stealthily infiltrate ships, steal chests, sink their ship and flee with success;
• be outnumbered in combat (by 2 galleons) and sink their ship or just be able to flee with success;
• cash out other people loot.

@labarge28 said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

I always try to have at least one gunpowder keg up in the crow's nest, especially solo. Never know when you'll need a very serious distraction to stop a pursuer. Or an easy sink.

I'd rather not harp on about crew size balance again, so I'll leave it that I strongly disagree that a 2 man sloop is at a disadvantage against a galleon.

Good players will ALWAYS win such a fight. 2 level 10/10 vs 4 level 10/10 will ALLWAYS loose if the the bigger crew adopt the blitzkrieg unstoppable zombie army horde approach. If they loose they are not level 10/10 players. So approach a bigger crew will be risk because you don't know their level.

@labarge28 said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

@moe-furbino said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

Good players will ALWAYS win such a fight. 2 level 10/10 vs 4 level 10/10 will ALLWAYS loose if the the bigger crew adopt the blitzkrieg unstoppable zombie army horde approach. If they loose they are not level 10/10 players. So approach a bigger crew will be risk because you don't know their level.

I agree that in a situation where a sloop allows a galleon to get close enough that it turns into a melee on the deck, the sloop will likely lose. But that's because "number of crew" is the big advantage a galleon has. Why would the more maneuverable sloop ever let the galleon get that close, to utilize its biggest advantage? Your scenario also involves a 10/10 sloop crew. They presumably wouldn't make that mistake.

Easy scenario:

You have just logged in game with your 10/10 level pal on an outpost and 4 level 10/10 players in a galleon are just dropping the anchor at the same outpost.

@labarge28 said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

@moe-furbino said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

Easy scenario:

You have just logged in game with your 10/10 level pal on an outpost and 4 level 10/10 players in a galleon are just dropping the anchor at the same outpost.

Just so that I understand this, your example of why a galleon wins over sloop in ideal situations, involves the sloop being caught anchored at an outpost with a newly spawned crew, with the default supplies?

How would that go any better if it were a newly spawned galleon at an outpost, with a fully loaded sloop showing up just as they log in?

I thought the discussion were having was how a fully loaded and competently crewed duo sloop fares against a fully loaded and competently crewed 4-man galleon.

You are just avoiding an answer that is true but you don't like it.

@labarge28 said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

@moe-furbino You offered me a specifc scenario where the parked ship would likely lose, regardless of the type of ship. Do you disagree that an anchored galleon with a newly spawned crew would also lose?

My point is that you're not showing some inherent problem with a sloop vs. a galleon, you're showing the disadvantage of an anchored ship with baseline supplies.

tsk tsk what a childish behavior... too sad

@labarge28
Scenario 2:

@labarge28 said in What makes a good PvP'er in SoT? (different kind of post):

@moe-furbino At this point I'm going to assume you're just trolling. That above image is a realistic scenario to you?

Don't worry the second galleon won't atack! It will just patrol to ensure a "equal" and no escaping fight. There are endless scenarios with storms, big tall rocks at sea, a sorrow chest in both ships, etc