This is pretty disappointing honestly.
"Be the randomly generated pirate that you don't really want to be!"
Rare, I love your vision for the character creator but:
@Ant-Heuser-Kush I bet you'll find a couple that suit you with the randomizer. ;-)
@Scheefinator What you call "bloated" I call options. One of which is bypassing the character creation by randomizing your toon if you so desire. Though I'm particular about my avatars, I'm not one that takes an hour to create them. Though Rare seems to want me wasting that much time hitting randomize over and over again instead of giving me, and many others, the option to properly create our toons.
If possible I think it should be much if not the same way you can customize a character like with ARK and Dark souls, and I mean in that you should be able to decide what your characters body size is, what color of the spectrum your skin or hair is and what facial features you want...
I like the variations they want to offer but i think they suit in as blueprints for how a player want their character to look like, we should be able to chose what color within the spectrum their skin is, their height or what features their face have, so that it feels like we have any say in personalization other than our selected cosmetics.
Just because its not final means there is still hope for such possibilities, because a game with no limits in what you can do shouldn't restrict you character creativity...
@gholin I imagine there will be a micro-transaction down the road that lets you remake your character.
i hope Rare is paying attention to this post in particular, cause the mates who are against it heavily outweigh those who are for it.
I think this is also something alot of people who have been in the alpha long ago when it first started, were looking forward to, actually CREATING your pirate legend, not CHOOSING one.
I also love the ability to customize my character in RPGs, however; I think that Rare has the right idea for this game with the random character. I would much rather see a wide variety of pirates on the sea than the basically same pirate repeated over and over. Personally, I think they only need 2 filters and it would be a perfect system.
First the ability to filter by Gender. That automatically narrows the pool by 50% and most people know if they like playing as a male or female character. I always pick a female character so that just made my selection pool much easier.
Second, the lock/unlock button in the character generator. Since there isn't the ability to build my own character from scratch, I will probably sit on the screen and re-roll 100+ times until I find a character I really like. This is why the lock/unlock button is key. Let me lock in the ones that I like and keep rolling till I fill my slots with all locked characters then I can pick from that list.
@ivorydoll I actually like their system, and your ideas make it even better. I like it because:
- Pirates will look different across the board without crazy abominations of nature that happen when given sliders
- You will be forced to pick a pirate that you might not fit your standard character design (in most games I tend to make my characters look similar, just because of the sort of bond I have created with that certain look)
- No pirate will look perfect, unless by luck
- Still allows us to pick a pirate we like
Your ideas help, and are mostly emphasized by my last point. Yes it's still mostly random, but you at least get some say.
@ivorydoll said in Rare, I love your vision for the character creator but::
Second, the lock/unlock button in the character generator. Since there isn't the ability to build my own character from scratch, I will probably sit on the screen and re-roll 100+ times until I find a character I really like. This is why the lock/unlock button is key. Let me lock in the ones that I like and keep rolling till I fill my slots with all locked characters then I can pick from that list.
Pretty much what I said early on in the thread. I think what would actually be really helpful is if Rare could clarify some things for folks. For example (based on things I am reading in here) How do characters get tattoos? Piercings? hairstyle and hair color? Does this happen at the random generator, or is it something we can do in game once we are rolling? Answers to stuff like this may help alleviate some of the woes folks are currently having with this system.
@touchdown1504 They have said that you will buy all of those things from the different shops (with in game currency of course)
@touchdown1504 They said this a few months ago, so I might have to do some digging to find it again. I would check interviews and their videos.
@captain-surgee I agree on the first half, and it makes perfect sense. The whole 8 character circle just lends itself to locking candidates i have no idea what the point is of an 8 character circle if you cant do that. It honestly seems easy enough to implement and i would be completely content with this kind of thing. Honestly having to check each of the 8 characters can only make it worse randomizing every time unless it serves this kind of purpose.
I thought I read that they didn't want a "default" pirate that you would see over and over again. IDK why they didn't just randomize the character and then let you fully customize it. That way people don't start with the same exactly template character in a character editor, so those who don't edit their character at all won't be using the same standard character, but those that like to edit the appearance of their character have the freedom to do so.
This is too easy to figure it out:
1-Make Character Customization RNG based
2-Sell Potions that lets you re-roll your character
3-???????
4-Profit
@daimyo-dorima said in Rare, I love your vision for the character creator but::
For the love of Mike! Why? So instead of giving me control of my characters creation I get to click randomize a thousand times until I see something that's "close enough" to what I want? Again, why? I'm rather particular about the avatars I run around with and this...grrrr...takes away player choice and ends up being another aggravating chore.
Yeah, I'm stubborn enough that I'm sure I'll be spending hours rolling for the right character, and won't actually get into the game until I find the right one. The fact that once it's locked in it's permanent means that I'm gonna wait until it's just right. This could potentially prevent me from playing the game for days after launch depending on the RNG. What's worse is if there isn't a "confirm" screen and we see people accidentally locking in characters they didn't mean to.
You see, the reason is that the procedural generation of these characters is set by Rare. That means two things. One is that all the characters will fit the game style and the other is that it won't be possible that 90% of the players would pick one feature (like eye or hair color) because it's the coolest one. Ultimately they want each character to feel like it's made by the Rare team. I love this idea. I will have much greater connection to my character when I finally choose it.
@FireTadpole7469 said in Rare, I love your vision for the character creator but::
- Pirates will look different across the board without crazy abominations of nature that happen when given sliders
This only happens when it's what the developers intend to happen (as Studio Wildcard did with Ark: Survival Evolved). Like everything else in a game, the developers set the parameters.
@Capt-Explodabob Glad I'm not the only one comparing the disappointing GTA:O character creation to what Rare has revealed. Also, the Unreal 4 Engine isn't the bottleneck for full character creation - it actually allows for a truly robust range of options. The restrictions are solely at Rare's discretion.
And speaking of Rare. Oh @Internal-Error, any chance you could round up someone to do a video walkthrough of the character selection process so as all us scallywags can know what y'all have planned for us? Pretty please with a cherry on top. ;-)
@soulless-rager Im feeling just as concerned. What if i press something wrong? Thats just garbage then.
While I am not happy of the sole existance of the character randomizer instead of a character creator, I must admit that after the first hiccups with my mates and laughing of each other character we stoped giving a damn. Firstly because you can only see your character in emotes and mostly because it was a Closed Beta and it didn't matter so much because I knew I could become who I want in the final game. Now I am a bit dissapointed, and I will have never made another character, will have made me as close as I can to RealLife, or to my perfid imagination of me in RL.
I understand Rare decision, I don't know if it's sugarcoating the technical limitations of the engine or they actually want it to have it like it is, a pirate generator.`To me, it seems that the function to generate another set of 8 characters seems to be an attempt to please the crowd. I think, originally they just wanted to include those 8 options and you have to select from those at whatever the cost, without being able to generate new ones.
Thus, Rare, if you allowed the option to generate new 8 characters, you need to let us save some characters from the previous generator in order to compare them. It will be a huge dissapointment if I get a character I almost like or indeed I like, but when I hit a new generator to look for the perfect one I can't find another one that I liked as much as the previous.
Please make a button to save 2 or 3 characters so we could compare them.
For some reason, I think you cannot do that, at least so short until release. Thus, allow people to only select from 8 characters at launch, without another generator, but also offer them an one time option to change their character looks once a better system will be in place.
Later Edit Anyway, I will have preferred to there be an actual character creator instead of character generator.
Not sure how i feel about this choice but i can only guess why they decided to go Rng for your character. I don't understand why if you pick your chacter it's perment. My best guess is that they wanted to make the game real casual and simple to cast the widest net possible and then start charging player to change there look later. Or maybe they didn't have the time to do more character creation. I take it in order to pick a new character i will have to delete my progress? Normally in games i dont care to much how my character looks but in this game where it all about looks it just feels wrong somehow. but I don't understand why.
Having an option to lock in a selection when you are rerolling would be a nice start. Having some basic options of choosing body type and hair color would be nice as well. Assuming you can't just modify hair color later on.
Or perhaps an option where once you find a character that is close to what you want, you can have some variations based on that character rolled instead of totally random?At least some sort of midpoint would be nice. An option to change your character after you've started would be nice as well. Even if it were a Legendary perk.
@cappjacksparrow At least there will not be loads of Jack Sparrow clones running around with no imagination. And I did see that we will be able to buy hairstyles, beards, hooks, peglegs, eyepatches and more from vendor later in the game.We do at least need a lock option at selection stage fully agree.
Please Rare, atleast let us lock the character we like as we continue to hit the random generator button, and maybe after we pick our character, let us add or remove tattoo’s, scars, hair etc. etc.
I understand sliders can land us with a bunch of pirates looking alike, but maybe there is a middle ground we can walk on.
Overall I can tolerate being restricted to a dev branded character model, they stand out by looking like they're hand made, but as long as i get any say in a specific gender and skin color (not just human skin tones, use the entire color spectrum) I would be satisfied, tattoos and scars are something I could add on to the character later as a form of character evolution, with the restricted RNG character pool it would feel like being given a bad character in a game DnD by the dungeon master because you couldn't design your own...
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