That's it, what the title says...I'm really disappointed.
So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.
@ugesparrow :( This was the way it was meant to be and was explained in December.
@joeninetee said in Monthly Insider Report - December 2017:
For the Closed Beta build itself, it is going to be a limited feature set. If you’ve played the alpha, you’ll notice a few bits will have been removed (as well as a few new things). There are a few reasons for this; with the NDA being lifted, we want to keep some things back for the full game so as not to spoil the surprise for everyone, but also there are areas we will want to work on to improve before allowing players to show them off. I hope everyone understands the reasoning here. It was an interesting conversation to try and figure out what the right feature set would be for a Closed Beta for Sea of Thieves. It's not as simple as choosing a single game mode over a couple of maps, like a traditional multiplayer beta.
@ugesparrow said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
That's it, what the title says...I'm really disappointed.
Couldn't agree more
@musicmee Yes, I know they said that, but still doesn't makes that decission right.
I've been trying to get my friends play this game for so long, and they are expecting this Beta, but they want to see content, because otherwise they are not going to buy it.
This is not the way to sell a game, holding a lot of something up your sleeve is not the way.@musicmee I couldn't agree with you more and with what @JoeNineTee said. NDA is off, meaning that the game will receive lots of exposure. In my opinion and advertising expertise, the best way to achieve a positive exposure right now is to offer the best that you have ,the highest quality. Certain features that we had in the alpha are to say the least, not fully polished and for this Beta the target was to showcase quality, not quantity.
Furthermore, this is NOT a full release. Treat it as such.
Would you prefer a Beta version with more features, but also more issues?
As we have seen in the past, Rare is working to keep the game stable, avoid griefing possibilities and many other things.I guess all of us would like to see more features, but in the end the most important feature is implemented: you can fool around as you like.
@sirliborius You missed the entire point of a "beta"
It's not a demo, i expect them to actually try things for once, and if they're bugged they will get the feedback from us.@ugesparrow so...
World Map Pins
World Map Ship Trail
Ship Visibility
Weapon Focus
Cannon Loading Context
Compass Spins in Storm
Spyglass
Eye Of Reach
Gunpowder Barrels
new locations...aren't interesting new features/improvements enough to test on this (known and announced previously) more feature-limited Closed Beta?
@darlain said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
@sirliborius You missed the entire point of a "beta"
The complexity of a beta is not really defined that exactly, but in many cases your definition fits.
It's not a demo, i expect them to actually try things for once, and if they're bugged they will get the feedback from us.
For untested features there are special gametests for members of the pioneer programme.
Please don't assume, Beta versions should ever use completely untested features - that would be horrible in every game.
Every feature in a beta should have been tested before, logically within an alpha version besides internal technical tests.@ugesparrow said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
@koshdukai No.
Ok :) ...guess you'll need to wait a bit longer then.
@koshdukai Can you see I'm a pioneer too?
Well, that's why I'm complaining.
I can't say anything because of the NDA, but you get my point.Well this beta isn't gonna convince me at all to buy the full game for ¤70
Especially with the whole "We wanna keep things a surprise huehue" thing. #NoMansSkyAlso the fact that you can only buy the game with Microsoft Store giftcards unless you have a credit card in the Netherlands makes it a definite NO, because i can't get a refund & only get store credit back.
@sirliborius Stop white-knighting, please.
Rare is using all of this as an excuse to try to hide the fact that the game has nothing else to show. Hell it's the first time in 20 years of gaming that i see a beta with even less content than an alpha build.@koshdukai said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
@ugesparrow so...
World Map Pins
World Map Ship Trail
Ship Visibility
Weapon Focus
Cannon Loading Context
Compass Spins in Storm
Spyglass
Eye Of Reach
Gunpowder Barrels...aren't interesting new features/improvements enough to test on this (known and announced previously) more feature-limited Closed Beta?
Woah! WORLD MAP PINS?!?!! Everything I ever wanted!!! 🙄🙄🙄
okay devs I understand wanting to not show all the game I get it and I agree. HOWEVER taking the alpha and putting the beta on it's name is something I would have expect from EA not from. you can't give 1/10 of a game and expect players to be happy. here are ten things you should have in the beta. sever selection. character choose. meaning in forts. kraken. some ship customization. more things to buy. more fun staff to do. and the list goes on and on. this is some thing you have to learn rare there you can't do this (mod edited) and expect players to be happy learn from this.
@koshdukai No, they are not. How come a effing World map pin which is a standard even in single player games something worthy of beign actually called a "feature" for a game that's releasing soon?
@glijmiddel said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
Well this beta isn't gonna convince me at all to buy the full game for ¤70
Especially with the whole "We wanna keep things a surprise huehue" thing. #NoMansSkyI agree, if anything its convincing me to not part with my money.
Nothing has really changed, the game world still feels completely lifeless. There's barely any sounds and the NPCs don't so much as mouth a whisper. I suspect someone at Microsoft knew that this game would be in trouble, hence why they've included it in the game pass thing (just a theory).
I think this game will have a lot of trouble selling at full price once word spreads and reviews are out.
@darlain said in So...the beta is December Alpha with less features.:
@koshdukai No, they are not. How come a effing World map pin which is a standard even in single player games something worthy of beign actually called a "feature" for a game that's releasing soon?
Exactly. That's what we should be excited about? It's laughable
"HEY, BUY OUR GAME! We have....... drum roll........ MAP PINS!"
Someone actually tried to sell map pins and a ship trail as a reason to play a beta
I mean, it's not even an character creation... I doubt that this game will ever be anything more than just a vague promise. I mean it's not even half way there. Someone said 1/10. I would add a zero to taht. 1/100.
Anyone remembering Wów-beta? That's how it's done, so Rare, dont try to be like EA, bee more Blizzard before you even attempt to "be more pirate".@averagestraw199
Yep. Rare Developer comparing this beta or a Battlefield Beta IS LAUGHABLE!!
Can you imagine BF beta with no tanks? No planes? 1 class and 1 gun?
With only part of the 1 map they let you play on? Not even the whole map?
You don't give away everything, but if Lost Souls and Mechant Trading are everything?? This game will fail
@ugesparrow for people that have not played the game yet and have been waiting this is really cool. This isn’t the full relase of the game, I don’t think anyone expects quantity in this beta more quality then anything, the Alfa has fetures that we’re not yet refined, also with the NDA lifted the game is in the public eye they can’t add to much because then how would launch be fun if we knew everything before the game came out im sure we will find out more as days go in before launch. I think rare has done a great job and the whole team over there so I didn’t understand how you could be disappointed.
@SirLiborius You would think they would want to do stress test in a more similar state to what will be available at launch with all the new features and content that's supposed to come with it? there are definitely going to be unforeseen issues when they decide to add that all at once on launch date.
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