Black Powder barrels are too powerful

The only people playing insiders are people who want the cosmetics for free and sweats. The vast majority of people on insiders don't EVER leave feedback of any kind. That's why they had to change the reward structure from time based to gold based. The people who do leave feedback about insiders are more often than not, players who are heavily invested in the game, and that playerbase is not indicative of the real wider playerbase. The people who said that the giga kegs are fine in insiders are the same people who are happy to abuse them for instant wins in the normal game.

@potatosord it gives you one tier 5 hole and four tier 2 holes on sloop, that is not a lot of holes already, for comparison, a regular keg gives you a tier 4 and three tier 2's. A megakeg gives you more

It's not the hull damage that's op, it's the player damage

@xdreegan Brigs and galleons are affected worse by it and coordinating 2-3 other people EVERY time I want to play SoT is not going to make me want to or able to play SoT often. Smugglers voyages will be a part of the game forever, and are a way to always be able to get a free giga keg. These are not real answers.

@captain-knyt Tier 5? Do you know how the hole system in this game works? It only goes to tier 3.

@potatosord hey I'm an insiders and I play because I get to test new content I could care less about the gold cosmetics and I'm definitely no sweat

@potatosord That's not true. There are actually five different tiers of holes. You can check for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M0OmQtDIFg&ab_channel=LoonieToque

Most of the time people call them T1 - T3, but forget or don't know that there are two mid-tier hole types (T1.5 and T2.5). For easier understanding you could just say T1 - T5.

This is entirely a skill issue, no offense. To avoid sinking to the keg, you must avoid getting hit

I will agree that the player damage is a little too ridiculous, but the ship damage is not as bad as people say

@swagalisous7451 Read what I wrote again. It is not a skill issue if you do not have the capacity to stop it. Losing in a way that is in no way your fault has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with a mechanic being overpowered. "If you don't wanna die to double gunners just don't get shot" "If you don't wanna lose in hourglass just don't get hit by cannonballs." That's what you're saying right now. You don't have the capacity to control everything that happens around you, whether you like it or not. If someone swims from an island away chugging merfruit to hide their mermaids while I'm doing a fort or voyage, which has happened to me twice now, there is literally nothing you can do. The boat is sunk before you can get there to repair it. You don't have the power to control the universe. You will be, have been, and will again be kegged, and you have, will, and will again lose to overpowered kegs.

@streichkase There are not 5 tiers of holes. In the official language regarding the hunting spears they spell out tier 1 holes are converted to tier 3 holes. Rare themselves are saying this. Hunting spears are newer than that video. There are only 3 tiers.

@potatosord What are you talking about? :D I just said, that there are five tiers of holes. The video I posted proves that. There is visual proof, proof regarding repair time and proof regarding water intake. Hunting spears have absolutely nothing to do with that. ^^ It doesn't matter if you wanna call the tiers T1, T.15, T2, T2.5 and T3 (five tiers) or T1, T2, T3, T4 and T5 (five tiers) - the latter variant is of course less common.
Besides that Rare saying that there are T3 holes doesn't contradict the point that there are mid-tier holes.

Here's an additional video dealing with spears proving my point:
https://youtu.be/V7r6Q-vCZEk?t=177

@potatosord said in Black Powder barrels are too powerful:

If someone swims from an island away chugging merfruit to hide their mermaids while I'm doing a fort or voyage, which has happened to me twice now, there is literally nothing you can do.

You need to be aware of your surroundings when your ship is vulnerable, the main issue with people getting kegged is they cannot take out the kegger because they can’t find him. I have been kegged by these barrels and the big issue we have with them is player damage. If you live, you can successfully repair the boat and prevent it from sinking.

I said before that I agree with the fact that the player damage is a little too insane, but the kegs suffer from the same problems as every other keg: It is easy to spot someone trying to keg your boat, and wrong positioning of the keg won’t give you great results.

The barrels are overpowered for a reason. They were added as smuggler loot, loot that sells for a ton of gold at the cost of it being a huge explosive. Yes you can use them on other ships too, however I am not having this same issue as you are. I solo sloop often and get blown up by these massive kegs, however even if I die, I respawn fast enough for me to save my boat.

Is there any chance you are not on a newer gen console, and if you are on a PC that your load times are effected by any chance? If you are on a newer gen console have you tried clearing your consoles cache to see if that was effecting your loading times?

Also it is just like any other keg, you run into it, it will explode. It has an increased fuse timer to compensate for its massive explosion, and you can still pick it up and put the fuse out.

Here are a few tips that might help:

• That keg WILL knock the sloops mast wherever it is on board, use this to your advantage to hop off the back a split second before it blows and then swim back. It might be faster for you if you are having issues coming back from the ferry in enough time.

• A lot of people (That I have noticed) drop it on the deck. When it is dropped, pick it up and jump overboard.

• Be more aware of your surroundings. With this new explosive at play, you have to be more on top of things, like looking out for ships near by, rowboat plays, etc.

It might take a little while for people to get used to a new explosive item on the seas. It's a new tool for pirates to use on the seas, and might need players to adjust their play style to compensate for it.

@huibuh34
The best piece of advice I can give you for that is eat immediately, again I have not had these issues before. This keg requires you to adjust your play style. It WILL take some time to get used to.

@huibuh34
As someone who has been playing since 2018 ( I know It isnt beta but its been 7 years, I think my hours are around 2.8k ) You should be looking out for rowboats and ships at the end of every wave and periodically during the waves as a solo slooper. Most people that keg me drop it on the top deck, or make me run it over. Which you can come back from both of those incounters.

@huibuh34
Are we talking about the same BLAST RADIUS? You know the thing that does less damage the FURTHER away you are? Or was that completely unheard of...

@huibuh34
Adjusting your playstyle requires you to understand why you are sinking. That is your first step. If you are having issues with people kegging you while running, always watch in front of you. Change your position occasionally. You HAVE to watch the waters...

@huibuh34
Coming from someone who tested it in insiders and that has been kegged multiple times, if your ship is moving and you hop off of it, it is not a one hit kill. Unless you are actively staying on the boat.

@huibuh34
That to me, sounds like you just need to be more aware of your surroundings. And the play style of the crew you are chasing/fighting.

@huibuh34
0/10 bait? Brother its a game that just added a brand new explosive that you need to learn how to counter. If you want me to be real with you, its a skill issue that you are having these problems with this new keg. You need to find out how to counter it.

@huibuh34
Sorry, but there are ways to keep people from boarding you. The main way is to keep an eye out on the water and watch for them. And plus your on the most manuverable ship in the game so... I man put 2 and 2 together.

Nah they’re good. If someone successfully kegs you then that’s a GG to them (I say this both as someone who has sunk to these new kegs and sunk others). They’re supposed to be chaotic and it’s funny to see people complaining about getting sunk now by these kegs when they could make the same play but they didn’t. That is indeed what’s called a skill issue! ^^

@huibuh34 you catch up to them with the horn of fair winds then once you’re close enough, use the harpoon to attach to their ship, walk the line with the keg on your back, voila!