The game is dead: Fact Check Status=True

the game will surely die off with no way of revival.

Heard this speech before. And I don’t see no evidence here to confirm it.

@burnbacon i mean yea kinda overused but the numbers aren't looking good

Whatever valid points you may have had are made redundant by the ridiculous title and arrogant statements. Just because you state something confidently doesnt make it true.

Quite a lot of wrong here.

Opinion stated with confidence is not FACT.

Fact Check Status = FALSE

Never forget the wise words of the Dude : “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”

I agree the game is dying and rare is fully aware of it as long as they keep having their transactions and the Emporium they could keep their daddy, I mean Microsoft happy. Remember when they actually used to listen to the community and insert things the game that we wanted.?

Unfortunately SOT isn't as popular as it used to be with only a fraction of the original player base still actively playing and over 50%-80% of the original peak player base no longer playing anymore. only seeing pop spikes during the start of a new season and or during double XP events

From what I've observed the two most common reasons I've heard people say why they don't play anymore is either they find the game "boring and or repetitive". With the other most common reason being "the game takes up more storage space than what its worth".

Most of it boils down to most people just not wanting to spend the time to wait and download a 100gb game that they consider "mid".

It is sad but unless Rare finds a way to somehow magically make the game smaller the player base is gonna remain more small. they could also try and go the route and make the game free-to-play but im not sure if that would change much that and a next-gen update could also help but that wont happen until Microsoft drops support for the Xbox 1

From what I've observed the two most common reasons I've heard people say why they don't play anymore is either they find the game "boring and or repetitive". With the other most common reason being "the game takes up more storage space than what its worth".

Most of it boils down to most people just not wanting to spend the time to wait and download a 100gb game that they consider "mid".

So many other games players download with no complaints and play it, Still to this day. They reach over 100Gb and play the same game, same missions over and over...and over...

So those players saying that are Lying or picky.

Fortnite on PC: 100 or so
GTAO: 100+
RDR2: 100+
Helldiver 135...
Not counting all the CoD games

@ractk00n Good point, but I think the two main reasons are that the game is too repetitive, and the only way to see some progress are cosmetics. A lot of them are reskinned and a lot of the actually good ones are locked behind terrible grindy commendations that force the player to no life the game doing the same exact thing for months. On top of that, while doing this they can encounter toxic people, trolls or generally competent players who "ruin" the session. This is a problem I saw a lot between 30+ years players with jobs and families who want to have chill sessions. Safer seas helps them, but obviously the best part of the content is locked is High Seas and so they get tons of conplaints about the absence of a full content pve mode.
Other reasons are bad server stability, devs completely out of touch with the community, bad to absent communication, too much care for streamers and none for the rest of the players, dead lore, useless reporting system, cheating and much more.
Finally, the latest season, pirate profiles and custom servers added as a premium feature on top of a lot of already present microtransactions were the final nail in the coffin for a lot of players.

@swagalisous7451 the SoT of 2020-2023 is definitely dead, the "sweaty" side of sot has been beaten down so much by rare over the past almost 3 years that its hardly recognisable. It takes me about 20 minutes on average to find a match for brig hg, and when we do, 90% of the time they are completely brain dead or are loss farmers.

SoT for new players right now is probably amazing, there's so much to do, so many quests to complete, so little sweats out to steal their 4 marauders chests like back in 2020 when I started. I think the biggest problem with sot nowadays is that theres nothing for higher skilled players to do besides sit in hg ques, contest fof/fotd or tdm (yes ik some of y'all do legitimately enjoy stacking 147 fotds). Rare needs to add new challenges that take hundreds of hours to complete, with the rewards being actually cool instead of "ooh funny rings"

@swagalisous7451 tbh at this point I'm kinda starting to not care about giving rare feedback tho bc they just ignore it and make some stupid emporium set that costs $25. This is the main reason ive stopped playing sot as much as I used to, not because Ive done everything, but because theres nothing left I WANT to do

@rocksinclair said in The game is dead: Fact Check Status=True:

@swagalisous7451 the SoT of 2020-2023 is definitely dead, the "sweaty" side of sot has been beaten down so much by rare over the past almost 3 years that its hardly recognisable. It takes me about 20 minutes on average to find a match for brig hg, and when we do, 90% of the time they are completely brain dead or are loss farmers.

SoT for new players right now is probably amazing, there's so much to do, so many quests to complete, so little sweats out to steal their 4 marauders chests like back in 2020 when I started. I think the biggest problem with sot nowadays is that theres nothing for higher skilled players to do besides sit in hg ques, contest fof/fotd or tdm (yes ik some of y'all do legitimately enjoy stacking 147 fotds). Rare needs to add new challenges that take hundreds of hours to complete, with the rewards being actually cool instead of "ooh funny rings"

Careful with your last sentence. People complain about things that take too long to complete, and if/when players actually do complete those challenges, Rare has heard enough that they'll nerf it, angering those who completed it. Even if they don't nerf it players will complain about it taking too long. So, there's a fine line you have to balance on. It's along the same lines of people wanting content added, and when it's added, people complain that they should've fixed the current issues instead.

@europa4033 yeah I agree, it should be something more varied, not just "sell 250 wind horn thingies for these silly sails''

@rocksinclair There are so many grinds that take hundreds of hours to complete, so many that are beyond annoying. 270 reaper voyages, 100 LOTV, sail 1000 miles 10 times. We do not need more mindless repetition, we need more fun content. Having to do 10 8 ritual Burning Blades is going to take a long time, and part of why I haven't done the comm for obsidian bones yet is because I just don't want to spend that much time sailing around on the slowest flashing neon sign that says "Shoot me for 150k gold" while likely having a 50% rate of people messing with me as I try to do it. I probably won't ever finish all of season 16s commendations. In contrast, I finished season 17s content in 3 days. There needs to be a balance between doing 270 voyages and only having to sell 60 items and read 14 books to finish the whole season.

Kinda dead, at least as the game originally designed for social interactions promising "you will create your own stories" it is dead and developers did nothing to make these interactions happen no matter in good or bad ways, rather the opposite they made a lot of QoL updates to avoid interactions between players completely.
I guess 80-90% of veteran players left the game due to lack of new content and loss of gameplay challenging. Active players are usually are groups, if part of the group left the game or moved to another the other part will move to. Due to Arena removal a lot of PvP related groups, teams and communities left the game. Some of them were banned permanently, in some cases without justification.
Even old good streamers, the players who Rare carried about the most, left the game, some of them still stream SoT on season updates or special events to hold their partners program up.

@swagalisous7451

Ghost colors? Please no, lol

Seasons were weak indeed

But hunters call expansion was somewhat okay, cant say i liked them selling me megaladon for the 3rd time but...

Adventures were a waste of development time, use resourses on something that wont stay in game is a waste, as newer people wont be able to see it and game aint become richer out of it.

@potatosord yeah. For me the most balanced season in terms of commendations was season 4 with the sunken shrines and treasuries. The numbers were ok, not too low, not too high.

@hiradc said in The game is dead: Fact Check Status=True:

Just because you state something confidently doesnt make it true.

Something that gamers world wide, regardless of genre never seem to learn. Opinions and fact are all too often conflated anywhere that games are mentioned, and this forum is testament to that.

Agreed. Hunter's Call did not need emissaries or voyages..

Neither did Reapers yet here we are. XD

SoT hasnt had a legitematly interesting addition since Hourglass. Hunter's Call getting an emmisarry was nice too, but other than that it has been nothing but air-balls and nothing burgers for 2 years.

Guilds, Monkey Island, Skull of Siren Song, Voyage table, crouching, the Burning Blade, lackluster uncompetative weapon selections, pointless PvE Reaper voyages, this smuggler nonsense (smuggling in a pirate game) and even downright gamebreaking additions like PvE diving that have undermined the primary gameplay loop and server health.

Revisit the Storm Serpent, revamp the Kraken to be more exciting and rewarding, add new tweaks to Hourglass for gods' sake like adding Dark Bretheren or GMU or new battle modes, expand on the Guardians vs Servants in other ways, bring back player choice storyline events, Revamp Reapers Hideout to Fort Flameheart (FLAMEHEART is in the game and is still basically in a shack) fix the Cannon of Rage so its actually useable, diving helmets, etc

You could even introduce the GMU as something the Guardians and Servants have to reluctantly unite against. Super tough sloops, galleons, and Man O Wars with skeleton ships and the Burning Blade as templates, that cancel out active World Events or steal treasure, or otherwise disrupt a server and must be taken down, that give allegiance if taken down with an active HG. Or leave the HG aspect out, but come up with a way that makes the server unite against them. Maybe folks cant sell treasure or rewards are massivly nerfed if a GMU ship is patrolling. I dont know.

GMU emergent events that basically spawn a reskinned skeleton fleet on top of you. Multiple sloops, progressing to Galleons emerging to target you? Maybe the GMU have special ammo thats super irrirating?

There is so much we could add that could create new ways to play the game, with new objectives, that arent just new ways to track the same old activities or do the same old activities with a new gun.

@gravesilence272

Throwing knives were unusable on launch because of the constant hit reg. Even then, they are the slowest projectile in the game. The guns and sword are still superior in every way. Also I have not seen disguises used ever since they were added.

I did use the new kegs, and I see them as the highest risk loot. It is a guaranteed sink for newer crews who don't know how to handle kegs, and those who do just hate dealing with protecting them.

Adventures being the worst honestly may be ragebait. Even if they low engagement, they offered a story that expanded on the lore, and the rewards were pretty cool. Being the worst feature is insane to say, we still have hourglass.

Been hearing this game is dead for 7+ years now.
¯_(ツ)_/¯

@swagalisous7451 said in The game is dead: Fact Check Status=True:

Also I have not seen disguises used ever since they were added.

I just want you to know that I laughed so much at the irony of this sentence.

@swagalisous7451

Throwing knives were unusable on launch because of the constant hit reg. Even then, they are the slowest projectile in the game.

Yeah, that is why you can do an Ashen Wind event in sub 2 minutes with them and they are the go to weapon for defeating FoF final boss.

Also I have not seen disguises used ever since they were added.

Shows they are HIGHLY effective then.

@pc-monkfish said in The game is dead: Fact Check Status=True:

Yeah, that is why you can do an Ashen Wind event in sub 2 minutes with them and they are the go to weapon for defeating FoF final boss.

So it's exclusively used in pve, so an entire update was used to bring those in the game (by the way, on launch were barely usable bc of the reg, regardless of pve or pvp)

Shows they are HIGHLY effective then.

How? I am pretty sure I make sure nobody is tucking, and even then, people use the default barrel disguise or the emotes.

Rare knows. https://steamcharts.com/app/1172620#All This is just a steam, there are Xbox and PS5 versions but still.

Some reason, I looked up other games that are "popular" even today and they all look the same. Dips, no dips, straight line. Yet they are still played today with millions of players.
So these charts are never good point to look at. Some are not good enough and rough data. As you mentioned "Xbox and PS5" are missing so...

Anyways,...since everyone is still making posts and stuff on a dying game...must not be that bad. Right?