I recently encountered a hacker in sea of thieves, one that had infinite health (reported) and he spawn-camped me while his crew selled all of my loot. Now, I lost about 15,000 gold from this encounter, but it got me thinking… what if, you report a player, then get some in-game gold for your troubles! Of course, there must be enough condemning events for the gold to be received. I think 10,000 or 20,000 should be enough in exchange for the players’s work cleaning up the sea.
And, for repeated reporters, perhaps a special title or hat? To scare the hackers away?
Update! Subtract gold from people with false reports!
Thank you for your time.
Rewarding reporting cheaters!
The community definitely doesn't need incentives to report imo
there is already far too much baiting for reports, social games around reporting, far too many baseless "sus"accusations
If anything there needs to be more dedication to accountability and responsibility of the power of a report tool imo
@craftergames706
As I mentioned in the duplicate thread with a different title:
*Yes... let's incentivize reporting everyone in the hopes of getting lucky for a cosmetic. /s
That's what it's going to turn into. Support will be spammed with false reporting and some that should be caught may end up lost in the avalanche of reports.*
Swap gold out for cosmetic lol.
@captain-coel said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
@craftergames706 This might generate a fair share of false reports. The reward is getting them banned.
This is exactly what I thought when I saw the title of the thread. Though one safe guard is that Rare would still retain the final say if cheating occurred and the steps to take to punish it if any.
perhaps a special title or hat? To scare the hackers away?
Scare them away? Do you know how spiteful and fun hating they are? They would more likely specifically hunt you down and target you or put you on some sort of "list" they have in one of their discord servers or something.
Cheaters are shameless creatures, a title or hat would likely be a worse outcome for the average individual player.Plus on top of that, as people have already mentioned, there would be many false reports for the sake of getting a cash payout and cosmetic. Do something even remotely sketchy? Reported. Do a smart play that the opponent didn't think of? Reported. Accidentally or purposefully commit to an exploit? Reported. Involuntarily have some sort of bug or connection error and the opponent thinks it looks slightly weird? Reported.
You get the point.@gallerine5582 said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
perhaps a special title or hat? To scare the hackers away?
Scare them away? Do you know how spiteful and fun hating they are? They would more likely specifically hunt you down and target you or put you on some sort of "list" they have in one of their discord servers or something.
Boy would they.
@personalc0ffee said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
@gallerine5582 said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
perhaps a special title or hat? To scare the hackers away?
Scare them away? Do you know how spiteful and fun hating they are? They would more likely specifically hunt you down and target you or put you on some sort of "list" they have in one of their discord servers or something.
Boy would they.
I'd keep in mind that usually some "individuals" like that are against people with very "warped" perspectives on the game, such as, I dunno, petitioning the removal of a weapon loadout preference just because they want more sword fights, while also being given a unique role in the game's community spaces.
Of course, it's not a good thing, but I do believe that the sense of anonymity with this game's report system is there for a reason, because usually you don't know who got you yellowbearded, but if you were doing things that someone could have legitimately reported you for, you'd have to think for a moment that maybe doing yellowbeard/redbeard related actions aren't a good idea. If the offender knew who did it, or if people know who did it and relayed it back to the offender that was reported, well, that's witch hunting.
You don't want a target on your back just for reporting someone that calls you a slur and would do it again (with worse intent) if given the chance.
@nex-stargaze said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
@personalc0ffee said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
@gallerine5582 said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
perhaps a special title or hat? To scare the hackers away?
Scare them away? Do you know how spiteful and fun hating they are? They would more likely specifically hunt you down and target you or put you on some sort of "list" they have in one of their discord servers or something.
Boy would they.
I'd keep in mind that usually some "individuals" like that are against people with very "warped" perspectives on the game, such as, I dunno, petitioning the removal of a weapon loadout preference just because they want more sword fights, while also being given a unique role in the game's community spaces.
Of course, it's not a good thing, but I do believe that the sense of anonymity with this game's report system is there for a reason, because usually you don't know who got you yellowbearded, but if you were doing things that someone could have legitimately reported you for, you'd have to think for a moment that maybe doing yellowbeard/redbeard related actions aren't a good idea. If the offender knew who did it, or if people know who did it and relayed it back to the offender that was reported, well, that's witch hunting.
You don't want a target on your back just for reporting someone that calls you a slur and would do it again (with worse intent) if given the chance.
I am referring to the already present hit list of which I am on along with some of my longest friends and crew mates. In addition to employees at Rare, Deckhands, and Mods.
@craftergames706 said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
Of course, there must be enough condemning events for the gold to be received.
@captain-coel The incentive should be they are banned. Unfortunately, Rare does not have basic ban practices every other multiplayer game on the planet uses. So what happens is you go to the SOT website, hammer up a report, spend time attaching relevant footage, and then, ideally the cheater gets banned! Excellente! This person will never be back, right?
Right? No.
They're back in less time than you spent taking the time to write up a report. They're back in less time than you spent finding which Shadowplay clips are relevant.
The people who have been exploiting the game's lack of security are very open about the fact that there's not even the bare minimum of HWID or IP banning. This isn't to say HWID/IP banning is perfect, but it puts up a wall to help weed out at least those who are aren't smart enough to figure out ways around that. To put salt on the wound, the "inconvenience" of your ban is that you create a new account. Again, the people who are doing things like teleporting kegs, making boats fly, and telling people in Youtube videos that you can find are open with the fact that Rare's lack of security for SOT is laughably behind by decades.
And those are the unmistakable ones. Imagine trying to prove in a ticket that someone's toggling or using ESP. That person could "just be cracked" or "have awesome game sense."
None of this talks about the loss players experience from cheaters in SOT. So yes, they absolutely should be compensated for their lost time. While we're at it, expand the lofty in-game report system to handle in-game reports instead of telling players to go make reports on the website later. The parent company, Microsoft, is one of the richest publishers. Their ban practices are more lax than Valve's, who will zero tolerance you into VAC city faster than you can say "Whoops I ran cheats for my Skyrim run!" Valve answered to cheaters with VAC bans almost 2 decades ago. I'm sure Microsoft, the developer behind the operating system most PCs run on, as well as half of the console market, can figure out an anti-cheat and give this game the care it deserves.
Because this game genuinely deserves the love.
@it-sundae I don't know dude. I've seen many account with 1000+ hours get banned for in game behavior. I've seen some accounts get xbox banned.
Yes IP and HWID would be great, mostly for people who use smurf accounts for ban evades. No system is perfect.
@Craftergames706 punishing people for false reports is even worse. That makes people scared to report.
@craftergames706 said in Rewarding reporting cheaters!:
My idea is that the player base becomes the anticheat.
pretty much are
I have strong criticisms of community accusations especially in social areas but a part of that scenario is it also leads to a lot of evidence/proof
People record this game a lot, they stream this game a lot, they report in this game a lot, a positive part of that is that a lot of the obvious cheating does get caught and reported and banned.
My guess is a very large percentage of obvious cheating related bans occur because of streaming and the communities around streaming based largely on how much useful evidence is captured in that scenario. So, on obvious cheating specifically they do a pretty solid job on that part.
Ban evasion is an acknowledged issue but obvious cheats likely only last a few days on an account, which is about as good as anyone can do on a lot of cheating per account.
11 out of 22
